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I don't even know wtf Aloe did. I thought she just got exposed, stalked, and threatened by her ex.
 
Not sure they’re going to be as willing to carry water for someone shitting on her own industry.

Like i said before everyone who enter that business know what they are getting into it and what she said was a open secret, ok the suspension was earned but she literally was abandoned by cover and kicked in the last day with a "graduation for harassment" excuse, i still don't believe she went out willingly because even the day before her fellow 5th gens mentioned they were talking with her in Discord, she was thrown under the bus for making the high echelon looks bad, plain and simple

I don't even know wtf Aloe did. I thought she just got exposed, stalked, and threatened by her ex.

A day after her debut autist discover a test stream she did on Twitchcast were pretty much she was talking about how shitty the idol business is, things that everyone know, ofc they did not relent and found archives of her old tweets where she made some almost R18 jokes and they found iirc her ex boyfriend steam account and somehow they also found her phone number because how she dare she to see for more than 10 seconds another human male

The aloe case was very amusing because the most enraged for her being shoah'd was the western fandom, the japanese were pretty much insulting us because this is not the first time the west defend and pretty much carry a Holo out of that kind of scandal (Towa), the west were pretty much willing to carry Aloe just to spite the japanese for being autistic cunts, for two weeks it was a shitfest until she was kicked out for the heresy of revealing how draconian is the entertainment industry on Japan thing that everyone that give a shit know , that is why even to this day you will always see a post remembering her on the usual sides, and this month its more horrible for aloe fans because her birthday was this month and she was preparing a concert for it
 
She is now officially in the realm of gods like Fubuki and Korone

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She’s gained 14k since then, too. At this point she probably is going to be first to 1 Million. I’m sure Korone will be thrilled for her, since she’s good doggo. Wonder if FBK might try some meme magic to catch up, though. She seems fairly competative.
 
IOSYS Overdrive was almost 15 years ago. 2ch has determined Marine's age to be 27 (though her old Twitter has since been privated, so the info might be lost to the ether). Even if they're off by a few years, that would put Overdrive closer to her developmental years instead of her content-producing years. I think it's much more likely that she just likes to quote it, like many Touhou fans who grew up in the mid-2000s.
 
Cover being reactive as usual, call me when another scandal appears near the end of the month.
 
I don't even know wtf Aloe did. I thought she just got exposed, stalked, and threatened by her ex.

Basically two things happened (of what I could gather)

1) Aloe did a stream of her 2D live model before her debut as a test, her manager and Hololive approved the test so long as she deleted the test stream later. She didn't.

2) this allowed people to follow the string to her old streaming channel, where people managed to snag audio of Aloe's VA speaking frankly about her feelings on joining Hololive (assumed anyway, as she doesn't name names) - I can only find the translated audio over on this webpage.

https://nyannet.com/hololive-5th-generation-mano-aloe-controversy-divides-fan-base/

In short she discusses;

-Hololive not allowing talent to have romantic partners but encouraging co-worker relationships
-Basically a lot of fussing that her current gaming channel will likely have to be axed once she starts playing her character
-Discusses a friend from Nijisanji who retired because she claimed they went out for a dinner date and their photo leaked out.
-Hololive providing a cheap lo-fi phone that can run a few things like Line and little else.

I mean most of it sounds standard work stuff outside the whole no outside romance rules. A few of the girls have their pre-Holo stuff out there as well and they haven't been asked to delete it off the web. Work phones and tech with locked down features for security is pretty common, and any public facing job comes with some fair odds of harassment from the customers.

IMO I think it would of been easier for Hololive if Aloe had returned after her break. But she sounds unhappy with the whole thing in that audio clip, so I can reasonably believe that she spent the 2 weeks considering her options, and deciding she'd rather not continue. Better to let the contract break rather than potentially deal with "I was made to continue because the company said I should" accusations later down the line.

Very interested to see how they handle Coco and Haatchama's return tho. I hope they are not blocked from interacting with the others or encourage the other girls to not welcome them back openly.
 
Basically two things happened (of what I could gather)

1) Aloe did a stream of her 2D live model before her debut as a test, her manager and Hololive approved the test so long as she deleted the test stream later. She didn't.

2) this allowed people to follow the string to her old streaming channel, where people managed to snag audio of Aloe's VA speaking frankly about her feelings on joining Hololive (assumed anyway, as she doesn't name names) - I can only find the translated audio over on this webpage.

https://nyannet.com/hololive-5th-generation-mano-aloe-controversy-divides-fan-base/

In short she discusses;

-Hololive not allowing talent to have romantic partners but encouraging co-worker relationships
-Basically a lot of fussing that her current gaming channel will likely have to be axed once she starts playing her character
-Discusses a friend from Nijisanji who retired because she claimed they went out for a dinner date and their photo leaked out.
-Hololive providing a cheap lo-fi phone that can run a few things like Line and little else.

I mean most of it sounds standard work stuff outside the whole no outside romance rules. A few of the girls have their pre-Holo stuff out there as well and they haven't been asked to delete it off the web. Work phones and tech with locked down features for security is pretty common, and any public facing job comes with some fair odds of harassment from the customers.

IMO I think it would of been easier for Hololive if Aloe had returned after her break. But she sounds unhappy with the whole thing in that audio clip, so I can reasonably believe that she spent the 2 weeks considering her options, and deciding she'd rather not continue. Better to let the contract break rather than potentially deal with "I was made to continue because the company said I should" accusations later down the line.

Very interested to see how they handle Coco and Haatchama's return tho. I hope they are not blocked from interacting with the others or encourage the other girls to not welcome them back openly.
If im not mistaken though, there's some speculation that it's not actually Hololive she's talking about. Something about how she mentioned that the girls were no longer allowed to use their previous identities, though the fact that Coco still uses her Kson persona every now and then contradicts that. She may have been talking about a differenr company she joined prior to Hololive.
 
Man, hunting dowm a person’s identity who is clearly trying to keep their personal stuff private(especially in these cases, where you’re not even seeing a face and they half-playing a character) just seems really scummy.
Holy shit dude. 24K messages in KF and you don't get that doxing people can be fun for it's own sake? Really though, if you are taking huge loads of money from a faceless crowd by being an "E-celeb" and you don't have airtight OPSEC, you deserve what you fucking get.

And doxing is fun because it is breaking rules and taboo. No, I will not be polite. I will use all the resources and clues available online and try my best within the confines of the law to get more personal info about the person I'm interested in. Especially if they themselves left it there.
 
I really hate this 'subscriber' model where they make videos unavailable if you don't pay them money. Anyway, have @Merryweatherey's two Vtubers interacting.

 
-Hololive not allowing talent to have romantic partners but encouraging co-worker relationships
LMAO I get the feeling this is a Pokimane style "doesn't have a boyfriend" thing to keep the simps paying.

I thought Amelia had a boyfriend, not that she has time to spend with him given her Minecraft addiction unless they live together.
 
LMAO I get the feeling this is a Pokimane style "doesn't have a boyfriend" thing to keep the simps paying.

I thought Amelia had a boyfriend, not that she has time to spend with him given her Minecraft addiction unless they live together.
Being the boyfriend of a vtuber would be a bit stressful, I'd think. You could cause a shitstorm by making noise in your own home at the wrong time when she's streaming.
 
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Being the boyfriend of a vtuber would be a bit stressful, I'd think. You could cause a shitstorm by making noise in your own home at the wrong time when she's streaming.
Not only that but you would have to avoid taking pictures with her publicly as much as possible considering if they get doxed they'l see you. You would need to be armed since who know what psycho Japanese neet will show up at your house looking for you.
 
Being the boyfriend of a vtuber would be a bit stressful, I'd think. You could cause a shitstorm by making noise in your own home at the wrong time when she's streaming.
Potentially just being friends with one could be stressful. People find out you know them and suddenly want leaks. Idk how people know some of them have roommates outside of Hololive but they find out and want leaks. If I'm being real for a sec, being a vtuber for a large idol company sounds kinda lonely...which I guess would be fitting considering how dudes create fantasies about lonely girls.

I don't know if the law allows it in Japan but the no boyfriend policy and the co-worker relationship policy, if they are real policies. Are likely unenforceable for Amelia, Ina, and Gura.
 
Holy shit dude. 24K messages in KF and you don't get that doxing people can be fun for it's own sake? Really though, if you are taking huge loads of money from a faceless crowd by being an "E-celeb" and you don't have airtight OPSEC, you deserve what you fucking get.

And doxing is fun because it is breaking rules and taboo. No, I will not be polite. I will use all the resources and clues available online and try my best within the confines of the law to get more personal info about the person I'm interested in. Especially if they themselves left it there.

Doxing people that are complete assholes or lunatics like the majority of the subjects we observe in the farms is one thing but doxing people that has not doing anything wrong is another, not anyone is a target


being a vtuber for a large idol company sounds kinda lonely

Imagine a work where you can't make any meaningful human connection outside of what the company allows you and you get a idea how it is, funny this only happen in Hololive, Nijisanji just dont give a shit
 
Not to mention your community prior to Hololive has to pretty much just die. Senzawa's stuff is still up but she seems to only use her Twitter to like stuff. Sachi just nuked fucking everything since she kinda put everything out there. I think Keekihime just refused to nuke her shit and Demondice probably has some sort of pre-existing contracts with some Japanese label.

Not to be one of those people but with the whole co-worker relationship thing, I kinda wonder if the Kiara and Calli thing could be real. I could see Demondice swinging either way and while I am pretty sure Keekihime is straight, it wouldn't surprise me if she was lesbian for attention like a high school girl.
 
Checking the streams i missed in the night.. did Amelia just keep streaming after the HoloEN collab? that thing ended like at 3 AM and she re-started streaming at 5 AM, the addiction is real bro
 
Being the boyfriend of a vtuber would be a bit stressful, I'd think. You could cause a shitstorm by making noise in your own home at the wrong time when she's streaming.
Something similar happened with Towa.

Tokoyami Towa mystery male voice incident​

During an Apex Legends stream by Vtuber Tokoyami Towa, an unknown male voice was heard in the background of her stream. This led to a harassment campaign by a section of her fanbase especially after she lied that he was a Hololive staff. On March 5th ,Cover release an apology on Twitter promising to prevent a similar incident from happening as well as temporarily suspending Towa streaming right for one week[9]. After her suspension, Towa release an apology stream where she apologize to her fans for her carelessness as well as thanking her fans (including a English message for international fans) for supporting her during the incident and her suspension.[10]
 
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