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[The Last Stand]

Yeah, better have a Trump dynasty than a Bush dynasty or even worse, a Trudeau dynasty.

https://tw.tinf.io/SVNewsAlerts/status/1317643731374383104

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I'm terrified too. Some Karen whale is yelling at me on video for something outside my control.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Drama relating to Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D). [ETA: For anyone who doesn't recognize her, she's the top-left woman in CrippleThreat's post, and has gained some notoriety for her controversial response to the coronavirus. She's also the one who was the target of the alleged kidnapping plot foiled by the FBI recently.]

At President Trump's last Michigan rally, the crowd started chanting, "Lock her up!"
Trump chuckled and said, "Lock her up. Lock 'em all up."
Governor Whitmer was not pleased.

This is exactly the rhetoric that has put me, my family, and other government officials’ lives in danger while we try to save the lives of our fellow Americans. It needs to stop.

https://twitter.com/GovWhitmer/status/1317589850527322112

https://archive.vn/LOVNA

Now it comes out that Governor Whitmer apparently owns "8645" merchandise.

Governor Gretchen Whitmer displayed an "86 45" sign during her TV appearance. 86 can be shorthand for killing someone. Whitmer is encouraging assassination attempts against President Trump just weeks after someone sent a ricin-laced package to the White House.

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1317894367437332484

https://archive.vn/wip/QIY7V

Probably not coincidentally, WIkipedia is in an editing war over whether "86" is used to mean "kill."

https://archive.vn/LncgP

Urban Dictionary 86 archive
Urban Dictionary 86'd archive

Detroit News article

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/18/whitmer-asks-trump-cool-it-says-hes-inciting-domestic-terrorism/3702262001/

 

[Pointless Pedant]

The thing about the slaughtering the natives, and I'm not saying this because I love Andrew Jackson, but the American Indians were going around raiding, killing and taking women who lived on the frontier. There was legitimate fear of the Indians running wild. Now, it wasn't all Native Americans who were doing this. But Andrew Jackson did the one thing that actually saved the American Nation from being land locked. And that was leading the fight at New Orleans and beating the British back so the truce that was signed months earlier could take effect. (This is the War of 1812 if you didn't know already.)

With taking land from Mexico, the Mexicans attacked American settlers in Texas and the people of Texas asked for America's aid. We only got involved when the people of Texas agreed to live under United States rule. Then America won the war with the capture of Mexico City, which meant that we then Owned ALL of Mexico. But being the generous nation that we are, we gave half of Mexico back after we paid off their nation's debt.

My point being that America isnt without flaws but we strive to be the best. Which is why we need to keep Biden out of office. Otherwise everything America has done will be for nought.

The main reason Mexico didn't get annexed is that they didn't want to give suffrage to all the Mexicans, for obvious reasons (demographics are destiny), and administering it would have been a pain. As for the natives, they certainly did attack settlers, but those settlers were trying to seize their land for farming and kill all their buffalo. It's to be expected that conquered people will resist, including with some war crimes too.

America didn't really have any kind of moral superiority until the 20th century, when they played a decisive role in winning the world wars and thwarting communism. Prior to this they engaged in multiple genocides of the natives and massive scale slavery, just like the European powers did then too. Similarly the USA's position as the pre-eminent superpower really emerged around WW1, though they had been the world's biggest economy since the 1880s after recovering from the end of slavery and the civil war. Back in the 19th century they were just one of many atrocious imperialist powers. My original point was that the political scene has changed massively since then, and the whole idea of America as a great superpower is something that started at the end of the 19th century at the earliest, which has culminated in the situation we have today where US politics seems massively important even to some people who don't live there because the country is of such massive global importance. Everything was different 200 years ago.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

"Trump is a juvenile anarchist"

 

[LazloChalos]

Waiting to see how Trump deals with Pelosi's 48 hour ultimatum, hoping he pulls out one of his magnificent bastard moves and makes the salt rain.

 

[Meat Target]

48 hour ultimatum

About what?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

but those settlers were trying to seize their land for farming and kill all their buffalo.

Interesting. Show me the law that conferred ownership of the land and buffalo to those people.

If it's just "they were there first", they weren't... the actual indigenous people that were here first were slaughtered by the ancestors of the modern "natives" who crossed a land bridge armed with superior weapons and imported disease (sound familiar?). So if there was no recognized law conferring ownership of the land and buffalo, please define the number of years it takes for stolen land and resources to become yours and for someone to become a native.

 

[Bad_Guys_are_Good4EVER]

The main reason Mexico didn't get annexed is that they didn't want to give suffrage to all the Mexicans, for obvious reasons (demographics are destiny), and administering it would have been a pain. As for the natives, they certainly did attack settlers, but those settlers were trying to seize their land for farming and kill all their buffalo. It's to be expected that conquered people will resist, including with some war crimes too.

America didn't really have any kind of moral superiority until the 20th century, when they played a decisive role in winning the world wars and thwarting communism. Prior to this they engaged in multiple genocides of the natives and massive scale slavery, just like the European powers did then too. Similarly the USA's position as the pre-eminent superpower really emerged around WW1, though they had been the world's biggest economy since the 1880s after recovering from the end of slavery and the civil war. Back in the 19th century they were just one of many atrocious imperialist powers. My original point was that the political scene has changed massively since then, and the whole idea of America as a great superpower is something that started at the end of the 19th century at the earliest, which has culminated in the situation we have today where US politics seems massively important even to some people who don't live there because the country is of such massive global importance. Everything was different 200 years ago.

I agree that America was the deciding factor for winning both world wars. Actually World War 1 ended in an armistice not a surrender. So, taking that in consideration, World War 2 was just World War 1 on steroids. Since Germany never surrendered after the Great War. There was and are no evidence that America committed genocides among the Natives. Instead it was diseases that killed off 80% of the Natives population. So, pointing out genocide isn't a valid reason as it never happened. Now, the Trail of Tears was Jackson violating treaties and majority of Congress was against it, but Jackson did it anyway.

As for slavery, every fucking civilization in history had slaves. Slavery was a universal ideal and common practice, and still is practiced in parts of the world. In the Middle East, their whole religion is centered on slavery. It's not spoken about cause of the fact that majority of the world have laws in place that prevents slavery. But there's no law in the Islamic religion that is against slavery. Not only that but sex slaves are slaves. Prostitutes are basically slaves that you pay with the bosses reaping the profits. The only difference was that a war was fought to end slavery. Something that no other nation in the world could or would claim.

The ideal of America is what was unique in the world, cause we weren't and aren't like other nations. People flocked to America cause the common man can make something of himself. It wasn't the rich rulers who sat on their butts being pampered on that made America, America. It was those who sought freedom and liberty. Who sought to make it rich and have land and homes that were their own. America as a superpower was an ideal that existed way before the World Wars. It started when we won the Revolutionary War. When we refused to allow a king to rule over us. When we became a Republic and voted people to represent the people as a whole.

Abraham Lincoln said it best "All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years."

If America, if the idea of America, wasn't a quote "superpower," there was no way in hell Abraham Lincoln would have stated that. Which is why I disagree with you. America is the best nation on the Earth, and the Founding Fathers put in place a constitution that was given to them by a Higher Being. And if you believe in God and you read history, you'd know that our Founding Fathers acknowledge that they were guided by God in the creation of our country. To create a country where "All men are created Equal."

That is the the core of the American Dream. And that dream lead Americans to do the impossible, which in turn showed the world that we are a superpower nation. The only thing different now from 200 years ago is that people don't believe in the American Dream anymore.

 

[LazloChalos]

About what?

Its a "deadline" saying that either the white house reaches a deal on stimulus relief OR there won't be one until after the election.

Her attempt at painting Trump into a corner.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

The main reason Mexico didn't get annexed is that they didn't want to give suffrage to all the Mexicans

Should've bitten the bullet earlier on and get that over with.

The only thing different now from 200 years ago is that people don't believe in the American Dream anymore.

The country is infested with people who are mad this nation isn't like the others .

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Its a "deadline" saying that either the white house reaches a deal on stimulus relief OR there won't be one until after the election.

Her attempt at painting Trump into a corner.

But...he...he already said he'd sign a straight stimulus bill. I just...why are they so retarded.

 

[CrippleThreat]

But...he...he already said he'd sign a straight stimulus bill. I just...why are they so retarded.

Literally said if she agreed on a negotiation, he'll get to it. She was the only person standing in the way. I hope she gets retired with Joe sometime soon.

 

[It's HK-47]

Trump's rallies make no political sense. Here's why he does them anyway.​

Trump's rallies make no political sense. Here's why he does them anyw…

archived 18 Oct 2020 19:01:03 UTC

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CNN) — President Donald Trump's bout with coronavirus gave him the chance for a reset on the top 2020 election issue. Characteristically, he has spurned it.
Instead of projecting newfound empathy and sobriety, Trump has flaunted his recklessness at packed, mostly maskless campaign rallies. That gleeful abandon, as he bleeds support from voters fearing he hasn't taken the pandemic seriously, makes no political sense.

But it makes perfect emotional sense for a President who craves the applause of a zealous minority. His hunger for affirmation explains much about his conduct of the presidency -- and why it may soon come to an end.

Trump won the White House by eking out an Electoral College majority on the strength of a narrow but intense support base among less-educated White conservatives. He lost the popular vote, and became the first president in the era of modern polling never to reach 50% approval.

Nor has Trump seriously tried to broaden his appeal. Even after a wrenching midterm election defeat in 2018, he refused to temper his vitriolic style or hard-right approach to issues from immigration to taxation to health care to the environment.

He prefers the safety and comfort of audiences that already embrace him over the uncertainty and risk of encountering those who don't. As President, he has visited West Virginia, which he won in 2016 by 42 percentage points, eight times. By the tally of CBS White House Correspondent and real-time historian Mark Knoller, that's the same number of visits as he's made to California, which has a population 20 times larger but rejected him by 30 points.

Fighting from behind in his reelection campaign, Trump now lavishes attention on battleground states. But he still won't moderate his message.

Once the pandemic shook Americans and shattered the economy, political prudence argued for an aggressive, focused federal response. Trump refused, indulging the reluctance of supporters who imagined it would mostly harm blue states but spare red ones.

Once racial justice protests mushroomed in the wake of George Floyd's killing by police, public sentiment favored a conciliatory approach. Trump chose "law and order" crackdowns pitched to the ire of blue-collar White supporters.

After institutions from NASCAR to the Pentagon shunned divisive Confederate emblems, accepting 21st-century racial sensibilities became a political no-brainer. Trump defiantly sheltered the prejudices of allies who fear change in a diversifying America.

While debating Democratic nominee Joe Biden at a moment when open racism represents the foremost taboo in contemporary society, Trump ducked an invitation to condemn White supremacists who back him. In his NBC town hall last week, Trump dared not even condemn the lunatic theories of QAnon adherents who have embraced his presidency from the deluded, extremist fringe.

In theory, that might reflect a considered strategy of turbocharging turnout among existing supporters when persuading other voters is fruitless. But Trump's tactics have been so obviously self-defeating as to render that explanation insufficient. It also overlooks his propensity for impulsivity over planning.
"He doesn't think strategically," observed Tim O'Brien, one of Trump's biographers, who served as an adviser to Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg. "He's completely visceral and reactive."

In her recent book, Trump's niece said a harsh family upbringing had left him with a "fragile ego" that drives him toward the cheers of a crowd. "He knows he has never been loved," wrote Mary Trump, a clinical psychologist.

Two weeks ago, Trump left his sickbed and endangered his Secret Service detail simply to wave at supporters outside Walter Reed hospital from his limousine. Last week, he defied public health advice to stalk the campaign trail in Florida, Pennsylvania, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia and Wisconsin.

If Trump stages a comeback in the dwindling days of the campaign, in-person rallies are unlikely to be the cause. Research shows that such events exert marginal, fleeting influence on the electorate. The preeminence of social media over local news coverage "suggests the effect will be even smaller in this cycle," noted Thomas Wood, an Ohio State University political scientist who has advised Republican candidates.

Yet rallies provide psychic gratification Trump cannot find watching bleak television coverage of his presidency from the White House. Dancing to "YMCA," slinging masks from the stage, modulating his voice like a vaudeville performer, he draws energy from his fans' adoration.

In a year of violent discord, polls show a broad swath of Americans fear his truculence makes the country less safe. But his North Carolina crowd cheered his boast about the killing of a murder suspect by US Marshals.

Most Americans no longer believe him about the pandemic he downplayed from the start. But at his rallies, they do.

Most Americans heed Dr. Anthony Fauci, a fact campaign advisers have recognized by using the eminent scientist in ads against his will. At Trump's rallies, supporters laugh as he mocks Fauci.

In Pennsylvania, he pleaded, "Suburban women, please like me." In Florida, he announced that "I feel so powerful" after recovering from Covid-19 that he wanted to dive into the audience for hugs and kisses.

As most of the country disdains him, there's little doubt Trump's sentiment was genuine.

"He needs these people," said Michael D'Antonio, another Trump biographer and a CNN contributor. "He is desperate to be loved. The harder things get, the more desperate he is."

In case anyone was curious about all of the woodchips sailing through the air today, CNN made their way to the bottom of the barrel, and decided that wasn't quite deep enough. Originally, I was going to put highlights in all of the craziest parts in this quote, until I scrolled back up and realized the entire thing was nearly piss-yellow, so what's the point.

"He prefers the safety and comfort of audiences that already embrace him over the uncertainty and risk of encountering those who don't."

This, by far, is my favorite part because it's completely unhinged from reality. How many boxes of wine deep do you need to be to write that sentence? Is he seriously suggesting that Trump is vetting everyone who comes to his rallies and only allows people in the door if they're sufficiently pro-Trump? That's like trying to measure the success of a Willie Nelson concert based on how many people who show up that hate him, it makes no fucking sense.

Is Trump supposed to hold a rally that only Antifa is supposed to attend? What the fuck did you put in your drink, Harwood? "Trump hasn't tried to broaden his appeal." You mean like the half-asleep freak with horse-teeth who spends 8 days a week locked in his basement, refuses to hold rallies, calls half the country racist hicks, blatantly tells people to not vote for him, and refuses to make time for even one-hour meetings with people until after the election? Are you sure you're not thinking of that guy? I guess you can ask him when he comes out of his fuckin' Cuck Bunker in 4 days. Oh wait, no you can't, he never takes questions.

John Harwood is a political correspondent for the White House. He's one of the dudes who earns a paycheck by specifically reporting on matters pertaining to the White House, and this is how unhinged his view of the world is. This is why the media can't produce a sane story and why they fall for every ridiculous Gorilla Channel scandal that lands on top of their laps: They're fucking stupid.

 

[Gehenna]

Trump's rallies make no political sense. Here's why he does them anyway.​

https://archive.md/Xz127

In case anyone was curious about all of the woodchips sailing through the air today, CNN made their way to the bottom of the barrel, and decided that wasn't quite deep enough. Originally, I was going to put highlights in all of the craziest parts in this quote, until I scrolled back up and realized the entire thing was nearly piss-yellow, so what's the point.

"He prefers the safety and comfort of audiences that already embrace him over the uncertainty and risk of encountering those who don't."

This, by far, is my favorite part because it's completely unhinged from reality. How many boxes of wine deep do you need to be to write that sentence? Is he seriously suggesting that Trump is vetting everyone who comes to his rallies and only allows people in the door if they're sufficiently pro-Trump? That's like trying to measure the success of a Willie Nelson concert based on how many people who show up that hate him, it makes no fucking sense.

Is Trump supposed to hold a rally that only Antifa is supposed to attend? What the fuck did you put in your drink, Harwood? "Trump hasn't tried to broaden his appeal." You mean like the half-asleep freak with horse-teeth who spends 8 days a week locked in his basement, refuses to hold rallies, calls half the country racist hicks, blatantly tells people to not vote for him, and refuses to make time for even one-hour meetings with people until after the election? Are you sure you're not thinking of that guy? I guess you can ask him when he comes out of his fuckin' Cuck Bunker in 4 days.

John Harwood is a political correspondent for the White House. He's one of the dudes who earns a paycheck by specifically reporting on matters pertaining to the White House, and this is how unhinged his view of the world is. This is why the media can't produce a sane story and why they fall for every ridiculous Gorilla Channel scandal that lands on top of their laps: They're fucking stupid.

I think my favorite bit is "Fighting from behind in his reelection campaign, Trump now lavishes attention on battleground states. But he still won't moderate his message."

This and a sentence prior really hits home, though not for the reason this guy intended.

The media, the establishment, is so used to candidates lying their ass off to their base then becoming "Mr. Center Moderate, Fuck my Base" in the general that the IDEA TRUMP DOES NOT is itself a horror show.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

But...he...he already said he'd sign a straight stimulus bill. I just...why are they so retarded.

It's performative. Their base doesn't know that he said that, because that info is censored from them. It's like how they found (pre-COVID) that MSNBC made you less informed about the state of the economy, because if you listened to them, you literally have a view that was the exact opposite of reality.

Pelosi and Joe are pretending to be retarded because his base is just that uninformed -- and there's millions if not tens of millions of bucks going out to ensure it stays that way.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1317933433214173185

Full page in NYT quoting people closest to Trump: ‘A mobster’ - his ex-lawyer ‘Stunningly uninformed’ - ex Nat Security Advisor ‘Made America profoundly less safe’ -ex chief of staff, DHS ‘The honest people in the room know he is crazy’ - ex communications director

 

[Puff]

Interesting. Show me the law that conferred ownership of the land and buffalo to those people.

If it's just "they were there first", they weren't... the actual indigenous people that were here first were slaughtered by the ancestors of the modern "natives" who crossed a land bridge armed with superior weapons and imported disease (sound familiar?). So if there was no recognized law conferring ownership of the land and buffalo, please define the number of years it takes for stolen land and resources to become yours and for someone to become a native.

This. All of the native tribes were conquering the shit out of each other when we got here. We're just the most recent in a long line of conquerors. They should cry harder.

 

[Corn Flakes]

This. All of the native tribes were conquering the shit out of each other when we got here. We're just the most recent in a long line of conquerors. They should cry harder.

I tend to lump all conquerors under "assholes" by default, but that's neither here nor there. That shit already happened and there's nothing we, living in the 21st century and enjoying the benefits of our ancestors assholitude (and I mean "everybody", not just white people), can or should do.

You can't build a continental nation without cracking a few eggs.

 

[Robert James]

"Trump is a juvenile anarchist"

I've been trying to figure out what he is saying, the best I could get is that the dems need to get the moral high ground on freedom but not the way the right is and something about repeating FDR's actions in the worst way possible.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

In case anyone was curious about all of the woodchips sailing through the air today

What exactly does that turn of phrase mean, exactly? I want to know so that I can steal it for myself.