Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

All of you bitches need to pipe down, seeing as how you all have submissive, patriarchal values I declare that I am now the Biggest Swingin Dick on the Melinda thread. I hope you all have your Handmaid's costumes ready, I like my bitches to wear that outfit while I dump my goo in them. That's how it works, right?
 
All of you bitches need to pipe down, seeing as how you all have submissive, patriarchal values I declare that I am now the Biggest Swingin Dick on the Melinda thread. I hope you all have your Handmaid's costumes ready, I like my bitches to wear that outfit while I dump my goo in them. That's how it works, right?
The only bitches in this thread are mine.

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Then why does Mattiyahu directly contradict this later on?

It doesn't. Here is the verse again...

"He answered, “Moshe allowed you to divorce your wives because your hearts are so hardened. But this is not how it was at the beginning" (Matthew 19:8)

Breaking it down into 3 parts shows that The Messiah is reinforcing The Torah...

Part A: He answered, “Moshe allowed you...
Part B: to divorce your wives because your hearts are so hardened...
Part C: But this is not how it was at the beginning

Part A: Moshe allowed it because he was the acting Judge. In The Torah, a woman or man could petition the judges for a divorce GET (Deut. 16:18)
Part B: The men's hardness of heart (in not following The Torah) is why Moses released the women
Part C: But the ideal is one man and one woman for life (Gen. 2:24)

And moving on to the next verse (Mathew 19:9):

"Now what I say to you is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!”"

Part A: Now what I say to you...
Part B: is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of pornea, and marries another woman commits adultery

Part A: Now The Messiah is the acting Judge
Part B: Unless a matter of pornea that causes a divorce, a man is committing adultery by making another marriage Covenant with a second woman

Now we can argue over the meaning of "pornea" :smug:

My view is that pornea = defilement of idolatry not "sexual immorality". I can explain my reasoning, if needed.


I don't know that. But more importantly I don't give a flying fuck you absolute doorknob.
Why do you care so much if he's around here, able to message other users. You guys are done right? That's what you told everyone here, and him too since he hangs on my every word.


Yes, I'm done.

It matters because you were attacking me with words. Are we done now?
 
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It doesn't. Here is the verse again...

"He answered, “Moshe allowed you to divorce your wives because your hearts are so hardened. But this is not how it was at the beginning" (Matthew 19:8)

Breaking it down into 3 parts shows that The Messiah is reinforcing The Torah...

Part A: He answered, “Moshe allowed you...
Part B: to divorce your wives because your hearts are so hardened...
Part C: But this is not how it was at the beginning

Part A: Moshe allowed it because he was the acting Judge. In The Torah, a woman or man could petition the judges for a divorce GET (Deut. 16:18)
Part B: The men's hardness of heart (in not following The Torah) is why Moses released the women
Part C: But the ideal is one man and one woman for life (Gen. 2:24)


And moving on to the next verse (Mathew 19:9):

"Now what I say to you is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!”"

Part A: Now what I say to you...
Part B: is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of pornea, and marries another woman commits adultery

Part A: Now The Messiah is the acting Judge
Part B: Unless a matter of pornea that causes a divorce, a man is committing adultery by making another marriage Covenant with a second woman



Now we can argue over the meaning of "pornea" :smug:

My view is that pornea = defilement of idolatry not "sexual immorality". I can explain my reasoning, if needed.






Yes, I'm done.

It matters because you were attacking me with words. Are we done now?
Attacking you with words. :story: You mean the past 600 pages?
 
Hey Melinda, I know a friend over in Virginia who might be able to give you a pysch evaluation if you ever want to prove us wrong that you aren't autistic, don't suffer from NPD, etc. Granted, she graduated recently, but she does have quite a bit of intern experience under her belt. Her name is Christine Chandler, if you're interested drop me a message and I can forward you a contact

Isn't that one of your other Lolcows?

Does she follow The Torah? And is she over the age of 30? You have to be over the age of 30 to be a judge in The Torah.

The other thing is, why do you need proof?
 
Isn't that one of your other Lolcows?

Does she follow The Torah? And is she over the age of 30? You have to be over the age of 30 to be a judge in The Torah.

The other thing is, why do you need proof?
Well, you’ve never denied having the autism. So he’s giving you another way to deny it. You can always just honestly tell us whether you are on the spectrum or not, but you seem to avoid the question.

Sorry for the double post, friends.
 
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And moving on to the next verse (Mathew 19:9):

"Now what I say to you is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!”"

Part A: Now what I say to you...
Part B: is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of pornea, and marries another woman commits adultery

Part A: Now The Messiah is the acting Judge
Part B: Unless a matter of pornea that causes a divorce, a man is committing adultery by making another marriage Covenant with a second woman



Now we can argue over the meaning of "pornea"
You make my head hurt sometimes.
illicit sexual intercourse
  1. adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
  2. sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
  3. sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,
From your own citation, above: pornea's most common meaning. What evidence do you have that the Messiah meant "idolatry" instead of fornication in two different places (Mattiyahu 19 and 5:32)? There are far more places in both testaments where this word is translated as fornication or unfaithfulness or something related than there are for "idolatry".
 
It matters because you were attacking me with words. Are we done now?
I will continue to exercise my freedom of speech to discuss your bizarre, confounding and amusing behavior that you choose to make public. I will comment on it, laugh about it and discuss it with my acquaintances and friends here. Deal with it.
 
Isn't that one of your other Lolcows?

Does she follow The Torah? And is she over the age of 30? You have to be over the age of 30 to be a judge in The Torah.

The other thing is, why do you need proof?
She's about your age (37 to be exact) and a very dedicated Torah follower. She was my guide when I followed the Torah before Joshua Moon slipped meth in my food turning me into a big mean evil kiwi.
 
I sure can. 2 billion people say that Rabbi Paul's writing are "inspired by G-d". If Paul teaches it, they are saying they believe it.

Oh, yeah, they just say "man is head of the house". Wow so much better
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"Why learn about others beliefs to debate them when I can make retarded assumptions and debate against those!"-Melinda Scott.

Don't try to front on me bitch. You know Marshall reads this thread.
Toasty finds @Marshall Castersen as desirable as I find you, so not at all. You're both disgusting vile dumpster humans.
 
You make my head hurt sometimes.

From your own citation, above: pornea's most common meaning. What evidence do you have that the Messiah meant "idolatry" instead of fornication in two different places (Mattiyahu 19 and 5:32)? There are far more places in both testaments where this word is translated as fornication or unfaithfulness or something related than there are for "idolatry".

Pornea translated as the "defilement of idolatry":

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/4202.html


& this verse:

"Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (Matthew 5:17-20)


If The Messiah is telling everyone publicly that he has no intention of deconstructing The Torah, then pornea has to take the second translation of "idolatry" in Matthew 19:9 and 5:32.

There are dozens of sins in The Torah that result in the penalty of excommunication (being "cut off"). Anyone of those is considered idolatry/spiritual unfaithfulness. See Numbers 5:30-31. When someone's spouse commits one of those sins and is excommunicated from the community, the remaining spouse is free to remarry in the community. To be honest, the Catholics got it right on this issue (excommunication).

Numbers 5:30-31
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If The Messiah is telling everyone publicly that he has no intention of deconstructing The Torah, then pornea has to take the second translation of "idolatry" in Matthew 19:9 and 5:32.
Nowhere in there does it say he has no intention of deconstructing the Torah. He intends to "complete" it.

And the second translation of idolatry still makes zero sense in context. If you told a bunch of Pharisees that they couldnt divorce their wives if she was unfaithful to them, only if she was an idolator, do you not think that they would object? This was back when people were stoned to death in the public square for that kind of thing, may I remind you.
 
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"Why learn about others beliefs to debate them when I can make retarded assumptions and debate against those!"-Melinda Scott.


Toasty finds @Marshall Castersen as desirable as I find you, so not at all. You're both disgusting vile dumpster humans.
But aren't you buttmad that I'm committing emotional polyandry by whispering in the ear of a guy who may or may not be involved, depending on Melinda's current whim? It's Schoedinger's divorce. Or recorded live daytime TV. Complete trash.
 
Nowhere in there does it say he has no intention of deconstructing the Torah. He intends to "complete" it.

Once again...

Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. (Matthew 5:18)

Look around...

Is Heaven still here?

Is Earth still here?

YUP. Then The Torah is still valid

If you told a bunch of Pharisees that they couldnt divorce their wives if she was unfaithful to them, only if she was an idolator, do you not think that they would object?


No, because Adultery gets the death penalty. No need for divorce, the woman would be dead

Not so much as a Yud! wow!
Lol, no one gives a shit about your shit interpretation of how one verse totally means that you're correct about everything religious, ever, amen.

Do you speak for 8 billion people?

WOW, such feelings of grandiosity going on in your head there, eh?


So stripping is okay, but just don't birth children from different partners.

WOW the Patriarchy in you. You are DISGUSTING

Complete trash

You're like a person covered in mud and dirt all over your clothes pointing at someone who has some mud on their feet


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