Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[teriyakiburns]

I expect much further restrictions around here by the end of the week. They were like, "We'll see in ten days how our restrictions helped", which is probably not enough time to see a difference, so more restrictions to come.
I do like the intense autism that some people show when it comes to calling it "second lockdown". REEEEE it's not a second lockdown we didn't have a first one REEEEEE. Mostly coming from the same kind of gobshites who a non-dictionary definition of "racism" and just expect you to accept their bullshit.

First I've heard of that one. I wonder what their definition of "lockdown" is?

 

[Meriasek]

First I've heard of that one. I wonder what their definition of "lockdown" is?

Well, in Germany we just had contact restrictions according to them, and even when politicians and officials speak about "2nd lockdown" they'll never tire to autistically explain that a proper lockdown is what happened in Italy or Melbourne or China. Usually accompanied with the sentiment that we should either absolutely have a proper lockdown, or that we should all bend over some more so we won't need one.

 

[Bosmadden]

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/

Ireland's covid epidemiology reports. Since the beginning of October, but these do go back further, they've been reporting a case fatality rate of 0.11%-0.15%, ICU admission rate of 0.09%-0.26%, and hospital admission rate of 2.64%-3.16%. Even these numbers are inflated because it's been confirmed that any death or hospitalisation where the person tested positive is included in the counts, regardless of whether they had symptoms or what else was wrong with them. Deaths have been denotified weeks after being included in the reports but I haven't seen anything to suggest that the hospitalisation numbers are ever retracted. It's also notable that the median age of infection is around 30 but the median age of death is still well over 80.

This information is being published by the government, and I still see hysterical people quoting articles from March saying 20% will be hospitalised and 5% will die. It's absurd.

Apparently more restrictions are being announced tomorrow but I'm sensing a shift. Not just from ordinary people either. Opinions that the lockdowns have gone too far are getting more airtime, and aren't being shouted down as much as a few weeks ago. The downsides are being mentioned more in the news. Politicians are more resistant to the pandemic advisors advice. Rate me optimistic but I think we've hit a turning point.

I'm incredibly skeptical of the reported mortality rate. A huge proportion of the reported deaths, in some countries 80% or more, are happening in nursing homes. These facilities contain the VERY frail elderly, many of whom have at most months, if not weeks left to live.

So I've gotten fascinated with the situation in Melbourne. Because it's an example of an extreme lockdown policy and because a very good friend lives there who has been kept under an involuntary house arrest for 7 months because Covid is Spanish flu the sequel.

Looking at the numbers they're reporting they're now down to a handful per day, I think today they reported 4 cases, all within 1 family group who have a member who works in a hospital. However despite the incredibly low rates of infection they're still reporting 1-3 deaths per day, all linked to nursing homes. It's got me scratching my head. There have been no major outbreaks in nursing homes in Melbourne for 6 weeks, so how come patients are still dying from the coof? So I took a look at their case definition. Anyone who has caught the virus, and who has not been cleared of the infection, and then dies for any reason counts in the mortality numbers. Even if the patients in the nursing homes are being re-tested to clear them, and I'm thinking this might not be happening, people will shed dead virus for weeks after the initial infection.

We know that back in March and April, when testing was limited, anyone who died of a pneumonia or even had a respiratory illness (but died of something else) was counted in the deaths. Combine that with the fact many are dying with the virus and not of it AND people who don't even have the virus anymore are still being counted when they drop dead of heart failure or whatever, and it tells me that even the low mortality rate being reported is likely a wild overestimate.

I've gone from thinking that this is a really bad flu, to now thinking this is a really mild flu for the majority of people who catch it. Who the fuck has ever heard of a deadly 'asymptomatic' viral pneumonia before Covid came along? It's moderately dangerous for the obese and chronically unwell. It's very dangerous for old people near the end of their lives and who have suppressed immune systems. TLDR the coof is a nothing burger. For the vast majority catching it is barely an inconvenience, they'll either have no symptoms or suffer a mild cold. For the ham planets and asthmatics they'll also be fine as long as no one has the bright idea to put them on a ventilator (see Chris Christie).

What's frustrating is that we KNEW this back in Feb when the Chinese were reporting their data. Don't trust the CCP? Cool a lockdown for a couple of weeks at the beginning was justifiable to make sure we weren't in fact dealing with a Spanish flu. Once we knew we weren't going for herd immunity while locking down nursing homes was the obvious and least harmful way to deal with this. But because orange man and power mad politicians we're now in a mess I don't know how we get out off. Even if Trump loses the election the hysteria that's been generated is so enormous they'll have to keep on going with the insanity until we get the magical vaccine that's probably never going to arrive.

 

[Never Scored]

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I never got this one. Like, logically if it were that easy to catch it from your groceries more people would randomly catch the virus with no contacts besides the groceries and that hasen't been happening. It's a thing that you can objectively observe for yourself is not happening to people around you, and some retards still think they're going to catch the coof from their frozen pizza box.

 

[Bosmadden]

I never got this one. Like, logically if it were that easy to catch it from your groceries more people would randomly catch the virus with no contacts besides the groceries and that hasen't been happening. It's a thing that you can objectively observe for yourself is not happening to people around you, and some retards still think they're going to catch the coof from their frozen pizza box.

You can catch the coof through touch, but you'd need to directly ingest someone's shit. I mean that literally. For the viral load to be sufficient to cause an infection incidental exposure is not enough. It's why the virus is so transmutable in hospitals and nursing homes. Nurses not washing their hands properly (or at all) having attended to an incontinent patient and then touching their mouth, nose or eyes. Even better wearing the same face mask all day and then touching that. Alcohol works by dehydrating the virus and is only moderately effective. A 1% bleach solution is far better but damages plastics and stains clothing. The gold standard is simple soap and water. The virus is contained in a lipid shell which is instantly destroyed by soap. But I guess washing your hands for 20 seconds is too much effort compared to squirting sanitizer.

 

[Standardized Profile]

It's the same as "SECOND WAVE". You know how long I've been hearing people say that it's right around the corner? Feels like half a year now. Oh....and flu season is now coming, how convenient. I'm totally sure that people won't use any flu related deaths/cases as proof of a SECOND WAVE.

We already had the second wave. That was back in July-August. We might, maybe, be approaching a third wave. But each wave is successively smaller. And the evidence for that third wave is actually pretty slim. Outpatient hospital visits are going up, but hospitalizations are not increasing and deaths are going down. That could indicate a third wave, or it could mean the terror is abating and people are more willing to see a doctor when they feel unwell.

They have been pushing the idea of PIC (Pneumonia-Influenza-COVID) for a while, so they will probably switch from COVID fearmongering to PIC fearmongering soon.

COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review

The week’s key data, narrative interpretations, & visualizations.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I've gone from thinking that this is a really bad flu, to now thinking this is a really mild flu for the majority of people who catch it.

It's a really bad cold. Alternatively, its a really weak SARS.

Interestingly enough another member of the Betacoronavirus genus, OC43, one of several "common colds" is actually much more deadly to infants and toddlers; while this one is much more deadly to boomers & geriatrics.
really shows you what demographic runs the world...

Who the fuck has ever heard of a deadly 'asymptomatic' viral pneumonia before Covid came along? It's moderately dangerous for the obese and chronically unwell.

This meme comes from panic tards mixing facts up to make the virus as scary as possible.

Basically, as it came out more people were carrying the virus and showing no symptoms (around 18-40% of cases staying asymptomatic the entire infection, most of the remainders only progressing to mild cases); the narrative became that we could all be walking Typhoid Marys* killing off 100 grandmas every time we go out in public. Somehow down the line, panic-fetishists got it through their thick little skulls that you can be asymptomatic then fucking drop dead. You know, killed off by the... no symptoms?

Its another little COVID myth that doesn't make any sense to anyone who understands even basic biology. Kind of like the "COVID infections don't give you lasting immunity! But also we need a vaccine!" contradiction.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

We already had the second wave. That was back in July-August. We might, maybe, be approaching a third wave. But each wave is successively smaller. And the evidence for that third wave is actually pretty slim. Outpatient hospital visits are going up, but hospitalizations are not increasing and deaths are going down. That could indicate a third wave, or it could mean the terror is abating and people are more willing to see a doctor when they feel unwell.

They have been pushing the idea of PIC (Pneumonia-Influenza-COVID) for a while, so they will probably switch from COVID fearmongering to PIC fearmongering soon.

COVID Data Tracker Weekly Review

The week’s key data, narrative interpretations, & visualizations.

www.cdc.gov

Up here in Michigan we never had a 2nd wave. Didn't stop people from fear baiting it for months, though.

It seems there is now a rise in inpatient cases, but we're also in flu season. Make of that what you will.

Edit - On August 11th there was a spike, but all they did was dump suspected cases into the number of inpatients. Number in ICUs and on vents still fell.

Edit 2 - Forgot to mention, starting today the hospital is mandating goggles in patient areas. More stupid shit to stick to your face while working.

 

[JosephStalin]

I don't worry about "waves". My concerns are for those not allowed to work. Going out to walk in a bit, and know I'll see another very long line for food, as I do every Monday morning for the past several months, seems like forever.

Waiting to see when the food drives for Thanksgiving and the food/toy drives for Christmas start. Want to see the response.

In all this, I keep remembering this, in CA, is entirely one evil, evil man's fault. Two weeks was enough to ID hot spots and quarantine them, plus buffer zones. Nope. Straight to full Idi Amin. He might have been crazy enough to keep people from earning a living. Even the Nazis and Soviets allowed people to work and feed their families.

Last week posted this sack of shit's plan to reopen the state. But, as usual, he adds more "metrics". Believe an alien occupying power would be more reasonable than this critter.

It has been said if you want to see a person's actual character, give them power. God Himself must be utterly appalled by what Newsom, Whitmer, Cuomo, and that fuck Andrews in Australia have shown. They brim with a vicious, human-hating animus. Wouldn't be surprised to see some actual direct action happening. Utter desperation can put people in that frame of mind, and believe many, many people are at that stage now.

As usual on Monday, investing a few bucks on lottery tickets. Hit a big one, off to TX.



Added: This seems to fit quite well. Fuck Newsom and Fauci.

 

[Meriasek]

call me optimistic but when the vaccine will be out no matter it efficacity the lockdown and all the other measure will stop. They can't play this stupid game forever. How can they convince people to vaccinate themself if it not enough to stop the lockdown and hygiene mesure. And an ineffictive vaccine will only cement the idea of ''new normal'' public unrest will only get worse and/or the definitive economical collapse will be inevitable following be a societal collapse

There have been lots and lots of articles and proclamations by the Saint Scientists here that said that a vaccination won't really change much when it comes to requiring masks. The populace is being prepared to keep it all up, and they're gobbling it all up.

 

[Jewish Porn Hoe]

Well, in Germany we just had contact restrictions according to them

Ah yes, the smarmy fucktard school of arguing: "Heh, there wasn't a lockdown the government just decided by fiat that large sectors of the economy were non-essential but he didn't have arbitrary restriction on movement (at least officially) so that means it totally doesn't count as a lockdown!".

 

[FatalTater]

Are hiccups that won't fuck off a new symptom of the Chinky Pox? This morning has been a lot more irritating because of them and I'd like to have something to blame it on.

 

[deeplyhigh]

First I've heard of that one. I wonder what their definition of "lockdown" is?

It is their new talking point and they tie it to muh capitalism being evil because they are predictable NPCs. A true lockdown to them would be people being trapped in their homes and unable to leave for any reason like China did.

 

[Just wandering]

Well, in Germany we just had contact restrictions according to them, and even when politicians and officials speak about "2nd lockdown" they'll never tire to autistically explain that a proper lockdown is what happened in Italy or Melbourne or China. Usually accompanied with the sentiment that we should either absolutely have a proper lockdown, or that we should all bend over some more so we won't need one.

I feel you, our current provincial minister is curently doing en tempory lockdown but don't want people to call it a lockdown

 

[JambledUpWords]

Wear a mask, citizen

Also, if anyone can download this video, that would be great. It’s pretty much mask propaganda to the tune of “Be Our Guest”.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Wear a mask, citizen
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Also, if anyone can download this video, that would be great. It’s pretty much mask propaganda to the tune of “Be Our Guest”.

https://twitter.com/IDidntWantToHa1/status/1317696284803895297 (https://archive.vn/v1tv0)

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Wear a mask, citizen
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Also, if anyone can download this video, that would be great. It’s pretty much mask propaganda to the tune of “Be Our Guest”.

Found more of these on their replies.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Found more of these on their replies.

It's all so tedious.

Dad's arm candy is trying to arrange a birthday get-together for him the week after next. It's like organising a speakeasy.

 

[Brahma]

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six weeks maximum lockdown for ireland

i think theyre doing it now to try avoid open and flagrant breach at xmas

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-restrictions-government-agrees-a-move-to-level-5-for-six-weeks-1.4384986

 

[benutz]

Trump calls Fauci 'an idiot' who 'gets more airtime than anybody since Bob Hope' - as he claims people are 'tired of COVID' and calls CNN 'dumb b*****ds' for covering the pandemic​

Trump says US would be 'massive depression' if he listened to experts

As the president pitted the election as a 'Trump super-recovery' versus a 'Biden depression' at another rollicking rally, Fauci said that he was 'absolutely not' surprised Trump had caught covid.

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://archive.vn/XhwTl

You dumb bastards!


Thought this was fake but I've seen it in a couple of places now. I'm linking coz the DM seems to think it's real. I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1318280534414495744

https://twitter.com/RedPillMaC/status/1318279138701135872