Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Smug Chuckler]

Kek at this rate Melbourne will become Detroit. Businesses should leave there forever and never come back.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I've noticed lately a lot more products coming to market related to Covid. New styles of masks, an insert you can place in the mask to keep it from touching your face, new face shield designs, and that's only three I can think of off-hand. I am sure more variations are to come. My question is: why would these things be developed and put to market if they weren't expecting enough revenue to make it worth striking while the iron is hot? These items seem to be banking on the fact that masks and shields are here to stay and it's disconcerting to see yet another new product for face-muzzling coming out (the mask insert, called a turtle, just saw my first TV commercial for this morning).

It's creepy how they put masks on kids product to try and make it look cute.

 

[Vault Boy]

Had another Skype call with my friend in Melbourne Australia.

TLDR Melbourne is the archetype for extreme lockdown policy. They've been in some form of lockdown since March, a very brief respite in June but then back to a batshit insane house arrest policy from July up until now.

Current situation is as follows. Melbourne is reporting 1-2 cases per day with zero deaths. (Yes you read that right). Government has announced a very slight easing of restrictions starting Monday. Instead of being restricted to travelling a max 2 miles from your home, citizens can now travel 10 miles. They can go out exercising whenever they want. Some sport is allowed, including golf and tennis. And um that's about it. Citizens still can't leave their homes unless it's for an approved reason (food shopping, work etc). Most businesses remain shut. Citizens will still be required to wear face masks at all times outside their home, citizens will still be required to carry their papers, including work permits to travel, and need to produce them when required by the police or army. Travel outside of Melbourne remains prohibited unless an approved work permit has been issued an roadblocks surround the city to monitor travel.

From the beginning of November, assuming there are zero cases, businesses will re-open in a "Covid safe" manner. This includes restaurants and cafes being restricted to a max of 10 inside and 20 outside (Melbourne is a slightly warmer version of Seattle, it rains a LOT, so good luck with the outdoor dining thing). Churches and other places of worship will remain closed indefinitely with a max of 20 people allowed to attend services as long as they're conducted in the car park. Weddings will be restricted to 10 people and funerals to 20. And so on. This is in a locality where there is essentially zero transmission occurring, let alone any kind of pandemic wave. Welcome to the new normal I guess.

Jesus Christ, you know you fucked up as a government when the one in 1984 is more lenient than yours.

0 cases are impossible since even "eradicated" viruses like Polio could make a rare appearance in developed nations.

 

[Saint Alphonsus]

I'm convinced there's no way out of this short of a mass popular uprising.

Japan figured out quickly that the very act of testing CREATES cases so they resisted the testing hype. Same with the Prez of Tanzania who realized blank samples were coming up positive.

But now we have an epistemological crisis in that officials can shout "We have [4 digit number] of cases, better 'protect' you again!" based on... what, exactly? The average person, even a highly educated person, is not going to trace a claim back to its supporting evidence, nor are they going to cross reference the test kit used versus its FDA regulatory submission documents. (Then again, the FDA has mostly been a corrupt gatekeeping org. A professor once quipped that if the FDA existed before aspirin was on the market, aspirin would never get sold). Clothing false statements in scientific-sounding terms lends them credibility, but ultimately, the side with the greatest power to oppress can create their own credibility.

I can tell you that in my neck of the woods people are opposing VirusRegime with legal weaponry, relying on constitutional and civil rights protections... But when or if it comes to bureaucratic capture of those institutions, it will be an existential fight between those who want to live in Old Normal vs. New Normal.

The New Normalites may win in the short term but because it is wedded to the incoherent satanic worldview, it will inevitably fail. The only question is if it will last a few more weeks, months or... decades.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Getting real tired of all the fucking double standard emotion-bait posts:
>guy dies of COVID after not taking it seriously "haha play stupid games, win stupid prizes! serves him right!"
>guy dies of COVID after taking every possible precaution "oh no he was murdered by the antisocial renegades who just couldn't be bothered to wear the damn mask!"

The cloud cuckoo land that is the NY Times attempts to show that up is down, black is white...and that wearing a mask should be referred to as "freedom." You can't make this stuff up.

https://archive.md/3kIAu

"Ahkachually freedom is doing what government tells you without question or resistance, shitlord!"

 

[Ethereal Eye]

At the pumpkin patch. 75% of people showing up aren't even wearing masks, and it's quite a bit. Most people are probably fed up in Alabama now. I'd estimate probably 300 or more are here.

 

[Just wandering]

The cloud cuckoo land that is the NY Times attempts to show that up is down, black is white...and that wearing a mask should be referred to as "freedom." You can't make this stuff up.

https://archive.md/3kIAu

they think that if evveryone wear mask the disease will sudenly disaper wich is bullshit

 

[Sekirodiealot]

210,000 people dead in 8 months in a country of 325 million, oooh, scary. I wouldn't be surprised if tens of thousands of them would've died this year anyway from the pre-existing conditions they had (since 94% of deaths from the Chinese virus occured in people with pre-existing conditions) given that the average age of death hovers around 80. It's just instead of dying of a heart attack or expiring from cancer while surrounded by family, they instead get to live the last months of their life with minimal human contact, constant worry, and constant misery all in the name of their health.

Trump's response is bad in that he didn't listen to the actual science that was coming out by April that this isn't world-ending, didn't publicize it more, didn't do more to force governors to re-open their states and cease violating the civil rights of citizens, and didn't put Fauci out on his ass for his failed predictions, relying on broken models, and constant flip-flopping. Because at the end of the day, it wasn't a disease that caused this disaster, it was a broken political system, stupid politicians, and un-elected bureaucrats. Society was too autistically focused on preventing deaths that they forgot that people have lives to live. Because of that, the quality of life for hundreds of millions of people has suffered immensely, so much that some will literally die from it and for millions of others they've lost businesses and huge amounts of money and will never again be as fortunate. But their lives don't matter, not even if they're black. Only preventing a dementia-ridden grandma or 500 pound hambeast from keeling over matters.

I agree. Than again i doubt anyone would've listened to Trump even if his response to it was good. They're only focusing on Trump disbanding a team.

 

[AveraDiane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjBT_TuUVA

I'm just getting really tired of 'parodies' like this and that Paul Rudd ad that has to talk down on people who dare question everything that has to do with COVID-19. They use names like 'mask debaters' or 'Karens' (the latter is stupidly overused and it now makes me want to dropkick someone). They don't even count as humor (in my opinion anyway) since they come off as cringy and condescending. Are these people so socially stunted that they can't just make a parody without insulting part of its potential audience?

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[Yeeted Teet]

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/

Ireland's covid epidemiology reports. Since the beginning of October, but these do go back further, they've been reporting a case fatality rate of 0.11%-0.15%, ICU admission rate of 0.09%-0.26%, and hospital admission rate of 2.64%-3.16%. Even these numbers are inflated because it's been confirmed that any death or hospitalisation where the person tested positive is included in the counts, regardless of whether they had symptoms or what else was wrong with them. Deaths have been denotified weeks after being included in the reports but I haven't seen anything to suggest that the hospitalisation numbers are ever retracted. It's also notable that the median age of infection is around 30 but the median age of death is still well over 80.

This information is being published by the government, and I still see hysterical people quoting articles from March saying 20% will be hospitalised and 5% will die. It's absurd.

Apparently more restrictions are being announced tomorrow but I'm sensing a shift. Not just from ordinary people either. Opinions that the lockdowns have gone too far are getting more airtime, and aren't being shouted down as much as a few weeks ago. The downsides are being mentioned more in the news. Politicians are more resistant to the pandemic advisors advice. Rate me optimistic but I think we've hit a turning point.

 

[General Disarray]

I'm convinced there's no way out of this short of a mass popular uprising.

Japan figured out quickly that the very act of testing CREATES cases so they resisted the testing hype. Same with the Prez of Tanzania who realized blank samples were coming up positive.

I've mentioned the opening of the overflow facility at our State fairgrounds. Which remain unoccupied still, and when trying to find updated news I find articles from three, four days ago. So that's all just hype and bullshit like I thought. Now, Miller Park, the home of the Brewers, is now being repurposed as a new testing center. All of this points to blatant fearmongering followed closely by opening a huge major league ballpark for more testing to keep them numbers UP.

I expect there will be an update in the Governor's address tomorrow, the reporters of late have posed the question first and foremost about the supposed patients in the last two teleconferences, so I'm looking forward to their answer.

Cold weather in Wisconsin is something a lot of people can deal with, but many places don't have the capital to invest in outdoor enclosed-on-three-sides structures. Some got in on these additions when the smoking ban went into effect so they have a leg-up, but if the occupancy restrictions somehow get through appeals I expect many more establishments to shutter for good.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

After dealing with all these scaredy cat politicians and their absurd restrictions, I've decided I'm getting over my fear of roller coasters after this bullshit ends.

 

[PurpleEater]

You cannot tell me these people are mentally well:

This is just depressing.

 

[Saint Alphonsus]

Accusing anyone rando-on-the-street of causing a COVID death is utterly vile. This is psychological manipulation at its worst.

 

[JosephStalin]

@JosephStalin this you?
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Too good-looking to be me. My mask says, "Wearing this is stupid. Think for yourself".

 

[Jewish Porn Hoe]

One thing that fascinates me is how many supposedly smart people actually believe the Chinese C-Virus numbers.
"No you see the great and benevolent CCP recently had 11 Million people in Qindao tested and there were only 13 cases. China stronk! China numba one!"
Despite false positives existing. Despite the Chinese test kits being exported earlier this year being unreliable shite.
Oh, and flu cases are still depressed worldwide. Which means they're either rolling them into the COVID numbers for padding or COVID and flu are competing for hosts.
Logical assumption then if China really has triumphed over Corona would be flu once again taking it's place.

Kek at this rate Melbourne will become Detroit.

Nah, with the length of the imposed lockdown the service sector is fucking dead already.

 

[Meriasek]

I expect much further restrictions around here by the end of the week. They were like, "We'll see in ten days how our restrictions helped", which is probably not enough time to see a difference, so more restrictions to come.
I do like the intense autism that some people show when it comes to calling it "second lockdown". REEEEE it's not a second lockdown we didn't have a first one REEEEEE. Mostly coming from the same kind of gobshites who a non-dictionary definition of "racism" and just expect you to accept their bullshit.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I expect much further restrictions around here by the end of the week. They were like, "We'll see in ten days how our restrictions helped", which is probably not enough time to see a difference, so more restrictions to come.
I do like the intense autism that some people show when it comes to calling it "second lockdown". REEEEE it's not a second lockdown we didn't have a first one REEEEEE. Mostly coming from the same kind of gobshites who a non-dictionary definition of "racism" and just expect you to accept their bullshit.

It's the same as "SECOND WAVE". You know how long I've been hearing people say that it's right around the corner? Feels like half a year now. Oh....and flu season is now coming, how convenient. I'm totally sure that people won't use any flu related deaths/cases as proof of a SECOND WAVE.

 

[Meriasek]

What worries me is how easily a whole mass of people could be pushed towards a very fascist-type of group-behaviour. With just a bit of propaganda and some numbers you get people who are completely out of their minds with fear and who are willing to sacrifice every ounce of their individuality for the Greater Good. People just accept the government shutting down public life for months on end, and when people get weary the numbers get a boost et voila! The people scream for more jackboots on their faces just so the Duce makes the scary virus go away.
There's an extreme focus on in-group/out-group tensions now. Wear the mask! Trust the experts! Freedom is pandemic!
Madness. I recently read some conspiracy theory that Canada and every country in the world has plans for next year involving a stronger virus (COVID-21) and a debt-relief-program/UBI that involves forced vaccination and giving up all assetts, or alternatively being held in internment facilities indefinitely since you'd be a public health risk without the vaccination.
It's bullshit on a number of levels, but looking at how people behave these days I now tend to think that quite a lot of people would be absolutely glad if something like that were to happen. NEETbux and Papa Government makes all the scary things go away and all you have to give it is what you own? Sign me up!