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I believe they can? I know my case was officially diagnosed from blood workups.

Not to derail the thread.

Just to clarify, "chronic Lyme disease" is different from actual Lyme disease, and isn't generally recognized as an actual disease. It's mostly used to sell people on treatments for general malaise or chronic joint/muscle pain problems by claiming they're caused by some vague, never-ending infection that can't be detected.
 
I think lots of users including me will agree with that article about ending the panic over corona-chan. https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ed_and_why_weve_got_to_end_the_panic_now.html
October 17, 2020

The Chinese Virus – Why We Panicked and Why We’ve Got to End the Panic Now​

By Tadas Klimas
There were some good reasons we were scared, indeed, petrified, of the Chinese Virus. But we panicked mostly because we were set up to do so.
First, there had been weeks of reporting describing the crazed goings-on in Wuhan. Wuhan suddenly materialized on the viewscreens of our lives: a large city that no one had ever heard of. The actions of the communist government made it appear that an apocalypse had begun. Bridges cordoned off, roads blocked, streets emptied. Culminating in those poor souls being boarded up by the authorities in their apartment and left to die.

Then, for what at the time were reasons unknown, the virus attacked a region in Europe. No one, it seemed, could fathom why, why there, which was scary in itself. But later we learned that the Chinese had allowed flights from Wuhan to Northern Italy, where, it turns out, around a hundred thousand Chinese from Wuhan labor in Chinese-owned factories.
The Italian hospitals filled up. Italy seemed overwhelmed. People were being turned away and left to die. The Italian government completely shut down the entire country, something which never had been done before, ever.

We can be forgiven for thinking all of this would happen here, in America.
(We were wrong. In fact, two otherwise very similar regions in Italy had very different outcomes because of differing responses. Part of the problem was the limited numbers of ICU beds available in Italy’s socialized medical facilities. This problem never occurred in the U.S.: everyone who needed a ventilator got one, everyone who needed an ICU bed received one.)
We could have resisted the urge to panic. Already in early March it was clear the situation in Northern Italy was anomalous: the average age of those killed by the virus was 80, and Taiwan and South Korea had both contained its spread.

But when the thrice-damned British Imperial College scientist Neil Ferguson came out with his nightmarish predictions of an overwhelming pandemic, we went full Chicken Little. (Ferguson has retracted his fake predictions: here and here). We could have believed other scientists, such as those of Oxford University. Or even in our own common sense.
We didn’t do so.
We didn’t do so because we’d been programmed to panic. Primed and made ready to believe anything and everything. To believe the fantastical. To embrace it.
Heck, even Sean Ono Lennon thinks we’re being programmed.

Of course, we are talking about a kind of collective “us” here, a collective narrative, a public consensus. The kind that used to obtain, back when, when the media was not an instrument of the radical Left.
At the present time, this “we” still encompasses many; it includes the radicals, the radicalized, and a large mass still under the influence of the mad media. In regard to the Chinese virus, the collective “we” included many others as well who for a time bought into the narrative. In other words, us.
The programmers have been busy making us, or enough of us, believe not that truth is optional, but that there is no truth, in the manner Pilate iterated. There is only the convenience of the moment.
Who can doubt that we are being taught the truth no longer exists?
Examples are legion. Let’s take one. A president denounces white supremacy dozens of times. But the “truth” – the fake truth de jour – is that he has not.
How convenient!
 
Question is, why did it work this time, let alone on a global scale? My money's on a lethal combination of a general downfall of average intelligence (thanks rotting educational systems) and more so, social media. With people having world news shoved in their face 24/7 everywhere they go it's become infinitely easier to fearmonger the hell out of every little thing, and its effectiveness has now peaked thanks to any differing opinions being shut down or waved off as heretical to the modern god known as science.
Good question. I wanna know why besides covid being new and "unknown"
 
Question is, why did it work this time, let alone on a global scale? My money's on a lethal combination of a general downfall of average intelligence (thanks rotting educational systems) and more so, social media. With people having world news shoved in their face 24/7 everywhere they go it's become infinitely easier to fearmonger the hell out of every little thing, and its effectiveness has now peaked thanks to any differing opinions being shut down or waved off as heretical to the modern god known as science.
Social media and the smartphone have proven to be the world's most successful long con honey trap. I've been hearing about the dangers to privacy since the early 2010's but brushed it aside because "CONVENIENCE!"
What was more compelling to me was the fact that many opinion pieces at the time wrote about the general malaise brought on by the advent Web 2.0, notably how everyone feels so inadequate compared to their friends, yet friends with inadequacy issues post most frequently and fervently to solicit narcissistic supply.
The fantasy world created by the internet is no substitute for Beauty, Truth and Goodness no matter how many new IG filters can make you look like an anime waifu--which is pretty moot now, since a Good Person wears a mask in their selfies these days.
 
It is. I had the mild version a decade or so ago and it was no fun. The long-term version has a lot of overlap with fibermialgia and other munchie-type deseases so I get why you'd say that though.

Well, if the doctors can't detect any actual infection, it's not real. If they can, it is, of course. "chronic" infection of a disease like that should not be possible, if you are talking on the order of years.
You know it's been a long time since I've been active in this thread, so speaking of this kind of shit, did we ever decide whether "COVID Long Haulers" are for real or just a new flavor of Munchhausen's?
 
No, an example of VirusGaslighting is "You're infected, you filthy maskless plague vector. I don't care if you don't have symptoms, the asymptomatic period is fifteen years. Wear your ___damn mask. Do you want to kill grandma? My health is your responsibility. HELP HELP, TRUMP SUPPORTER!"
 
call me optimistic but when the vaccine will be out no matter it efficacity the lockdown and all the other measure will stop. They can't play this stupid game forever. How can they convince people to vaccinate themself if it not enough to stop the lockdown and hygiene mesure. And an ineffictive vaccine will only cement the idea of ''new normal'' public unrest will only get worse and/or the definitive economical collapse will be inevitable following be a societal collapse
 
Taken from 4chA:
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Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X19xByXZglR

SARS-CoV-2 Is an Unrestricted Bioweapon: A Truth Revealed through Uncovering a Large-Scale, Organized Scientific Fraud
https://zenodo.org/record/4073131#.X38wqu1CSUk%20Scientific%20Fraud

Read the papers, they are relatively accessible to a lay person with a little googling.

SARS-CoV-2 was engineered. The closely associated bat, pangolin, and rat CoV don't exist. They were fabricated and fraudulently submitted to genome databases in order to support the story of SARS-CoV-2.

I remember the BLAST analysis a user on the farms did but it had a problem.
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BLAST analysis relies on comparing the sequences to genetic databases. The Rat, Pangolin, and Bat CoV were also faked. They don't exist and were fraudulently submitted to genome databases. That's what the whole second paper proves with the synonymous / non-synonymous mutation ratios.

Bonus:
The Dr who said the virus is man-made with this guiliani ( if that is his name)
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And this guy who said covid is man made in January, with Bannon in the background:
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I am veery curious if this is going to be looked into deeper. If that shit is man made, are there going to be consequences for those involved?
 
I've noticed lately a lot more products coming to market related to Covid. New styles of masks, an insert you can place in the mask to keep it from touching your face, new face shield designs, and that's only three I can think of off-hand. I am sure more variations are to come. My question is: why would these things be developed and put to market if they weren't expecting enough revenue to make it worth striking while the iron is hot? These items seem to be banking on the fact that masks and shields are here to stay and it's disconcerting to see yet another new product for face-muzzling coming out (the mask insert, called a turtle, just saw my first TV commercial for this morning).
 
I've noticed lately a lot more products coming to market related to Covid. New styles of masks, an insert you can place in the mask to keep it from touching your face, new face shield designs, and that's only three I can think of off-hand. I am sure more variations are to come. My question is: why would these things be developed and put to market if they weren't expecting enough revenue to make it worth striking while the iron is hot? These items seem to be banking on the fact that masks and shields are here to stay and it's disconcerting to see yet another new product for face-muzzling coming out (the mask insert, called a turtle, just saw my first TV commercial for this morning).
No, it's simple opportunism. Never attribute to conspiracy that which can be explained by a chancer seeing dollar signs.
 
This memeflu was a let down. I can't believe I was rused like a year ago. I was worrying about supply line collapses and how to feed my family if that happens. Now we have the new normal, we don't even have wage rises because millions died. All we have is just some govts flexing how much they can bully their population and that is absolute. This is the closest to the Fema camp maymay and nobody does anything, because they never do.

Also lovely to see how certain people who hate police when they bully criminals turn into turbo police lovers when the mask/lockdown rules hurt the low status people they hate.

Also yay, face recognition now will work against most face masks. Clap clap. GG humanity, well played.
 
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I've noticed lately a lot more products coming to market related to Covid. New styles of masks, an insert you can place in the mask to keep it from touching your face, new face shield designs, and that's only three I can think of off-hand. I am sure more variations are to come. My question is: why would these things be developed and put to market if they weren't expecting enough revenue to make it worth striking while the iron is hot? These items seem to be banking on the fact that masks and shields are here to stay and it's disconcerting to see yet another new product for face-muzzling coming out (the mask insert, called a turtle, just saw my first TV commercial for this morning).
You can't develop and market a product overnight, and some people are particularly bad at this. Anyone with half a brain would've gotten started by the beginning of March.
 
If someone gets the Coof but doesn't go get tested, how long should they hide in their bunker before once again seeing the light of day? I've seen guidelines of 10 days from first getting symptoms, 14 days from first symptoms, 14 days from last symptoms... is there any real actual time that is best or does the person actually have to go to a doctor for a test to show that the germs aren't there anymore (or possibly infecting everyone they meet on the way to get the test if germs are still there?)
 
I've noticed lately a lot more products coming to market related to Covid. New styles of masks, an insert you can place in the mask to keep it from touching your face, new face shield designs, and that's only three I can think of off-hand. I am sure more variations are to come. My question is: why would these things be developed and put to market if they weren't expecting enough revenue to make it worth striking while the iron is hot? These items seem to be banking on the fact that masks and shields are here to stay and it's disconcerting to see yet another new product for face-muzzling coming out (the mask insert, called a turtle, just saw my first TV commercial for this morning).
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I saw someone with this on yesterday.
 
Monterey County being purple tier and therefore being worse off with number of infections than places like Orange County and the entire Bay Area reeks of BS to me.

Gotta love how he shrugs off answering the question about the negative health effects of lockdowns by just saying he didn't read the document.

If you liked that, you'll love this. Just came in over the wire. At this rate, Nazi Newsom will have this county locked up until he is recalled or defeated for re-election. Beyond fucked up.



WEEKLY TOTALS SHOW COUNTY’S CASES INCREASE 26 PERCENT

• Only 10 counties remain in most restrictive shutdown tier

Today marks the end of another week on the state’s coronavirus monitoring calendar — a week when Monterey County’s coronavirus cases unfortunately surged 26 percent, from 314 to 396, according to data from the county health department.

The increase also moved our 7-day average per 100,000 residents to 12.2, up from 9.7 for the week ending Oct. 10.

The growth makes it less likely Monterey County will be able to get out of the Purple Tier and into the Red Tier in the state’s economic shutdown scheme anytime soon. The Purple Tier is the most restrictive and indicates that our epidemic is still widespread, at least according to Gov. Gavin Newsom's terminology.

In late August, when Newsom announced what he calls the Blueprint for a Safer Economy, 38 of the state’s 58 counties were in the Purple Tier. Only 10 remain there today, including ours.

As has been true throughout the coronavirus epidemic, most of Monterey County's new infections this week were in Salinas and the Salinas Valley, while very few happened in the Monterey Peninsula or Big Sur. Of 396 new cases, Salinas and the Salinas Valley had 320, while the Monterey Peninsula/Big Sur had just 33, including 15 in Seaside, 13 in Monterey, 4 in Marina, one each in Carmel Valley and Pacific Grove, and none in Carmel-by-the-Sea, Carmel area (93923), Pebble Beach or Big Sur. One case was removed from the Peninsula’s “unspecified” total.

There were five coronavirus-related fatalities during the week, the health department said, bringing the county’s total to 83, which translates to a death rate of .0001787 or 178.7 per million residents.

At the end of the week, CHOMP said it had three inpatients with the virus, while Natividad said it had seven. We did not get an update from SVMH.

To see the most up-to-date charts and tables from the health department, click here. Below, you can also find the updated versions of our charts showing coronavirus infections countywide and in the Monterey Peninsula, along with the data for hospitalizations and our chart breaking down Monterey County's coronavirus cases and infection rates by zip code.


@Bosmadden -
Am in the "highest-risk" group. Over 65, underlying medical conditions, surgically repaired heart. Throughout this entire fucking farce of a "house arrest", when I need to go somewhere, I go. Normally spend a lot of time at home anyway. Grudgingly put on mask immediately before entering most public buildings, remove with a flair as I step out. My way of saying this is all a joke, and "they" can suck my dick.

If you want to go out, cool with me. If you want to hide in your house like a whipped bitch, cool with me too. But mind your own fucking business. Not impressed with anyone's "privilege". Pro tip - if you have to impress others with your "privilege", you don't have any.

I'm a big boy, know what's best for me. Fuck this "house arrest". Recall election cannot come soon enough for me.


Added - yeah, see all the fancy masks, etc. If some foreign power/aliens from space occupied the USA and forced everyone to wear sailor hats outside, you can bet some collaborators/enemy buttsnorkelers would compete to make the coolest-looking sailor hats, to show the new overlords their obeisance. People like me would get the rattiest, nastiest hat to wear outside, meaning, "I may have to wear this but you can still go fuck yourselves."

Added some more - here's this cocksucker Newsom's "Blueprint for a Safer Economy". Note he moved the goal posts some more on 6 October. Just his way of fucking with as many people as possible for as long as possible. Fuck this evil bastard. To the lowest circle of hell for him.


 
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call me optimistic but when the vaccine will be out no matter it efficacity the lockdown and all the other measure will stop. They can't play this stupid game forever. How can they convince people to vaccinate themself if it not enough to stop the lockdown and hygiene mesure. And an ineffictive vaccine will only cement the idea of ''new normal'' public unrest will only get worse and/or the definitive economical collapse will be inevitable following be a societal collapse
This. This right here is why i can never subscribe to the idea of "new normal." Nobody wants to live out a parody of humanity for the rest of their days.
 
https://archive.md/mjKjZ Some guy on /pol/ posted this collection of studies pretty much debunking most covid-19 doomer theories.

This is my favorite. This is my fucking favorite right here.
You know it's been a long time since I've been active in this thread, so speaking of this kind of shit, did we ever decide whether "COVID Long Haulers" are for real or just a new flavor of Munchhausen's?
Its a mix of things, but yeah, a new flavor of Munchie is among them.

1) Yes the virus can cause lasting DAMAGE, not "lasting symptoms" and most certainly NOT a lasting infection. In a small minority of cases, only slightly more likely than actually dying, the virus can in a short window cause enough damage to organs that it permanently leaves them scarred. Of course, the demographics most susceptible to this are also the most susceptible of dying.
(I did the math on this back in August)

2) Yes but also No, viral fatigue isn't unheard of with the flu or common colds. Your body burns energy and uses up vitamin & other nutrient stores to help fight off an infection. An immune response is energetically expensive, and your body can take some time to fully recuperate & recharge. A strong immune reaction can also leave you vulnerable to weaker infections in the time after, which can also cause fatigue.

3) No, lazy faggots just don't want to go back to work so they pretend they are suffering from "lingering COVID fatigue" which makes no fucking sense to anyone who understands how coronaviridae work

4) No, dumbasses are literally stressing themselves out. They are freaking out because the Man On TV told them to panic, so they fucking and induce a wonderful 24/7 stress response. While typically not as energetically expensive as an immune response (a stress response basically prepares the body for fight or flight, which can burn way more resources; an immune response is a sort of automatic fight response), an extended state of stress can burn off resources and have negative effects on both physical and mental health. Spending all day cooped up worried about IMPENDING DOOM!11 is not healthy, and no fucking shit it leaves them tired, fatigued and feeling under the weather.

5) No, its a new hip, politically-correct, and so 2020 in-crowd form of Munchie
 
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