U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Fliddaroonie said:
Dat feel when you have to cut someone out of your life for good cos all they do, say and are is about Trump Derangement Syndrome to the NNNNNth degree, and everything they come out with is "anyone who is not hard left is LITERALLY HITLER".

I know it's OT and I know it's inappropriate but this is the only place I can ask: How do you all deal with that as and when it happens?
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I'd rarely if ever actually do that. But if someone is acting completely intolerably to the point you simply can't allow them to continue to be abusive, it doesn't really matter why, whether it's joining a cult, being an alcoholic or on drugs, stealing you, or otherwise doing shit that is beyond what you will tolerate, let them know if they rejoin the human race the door is open but until then fuck off. Cult type groups deliberately do this, fostering obnoxious behavior in their members that causes them to alienate others, whether it's literally ordering them to disconnect from people who disagree or just being such utter jerks people voluntarily do that on their own. You're literally doing exactly what the SJWs want if you just make it permanent. Always leave the door open, at least a little bit, not to continued bullshit, but to rejoining humanity.

The exception is obviously if they've done something beyond unforgivable or are literally dangerous.
 
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AnOminous said:
I'd rarely if ever actually do that. But if someone is acting completely intolerably to the point you simply can't allow them to continue to be abusive, it doesn't really matter why, whether it's joining a cult, being an alcoholic or on drugs, stealing you, or otherwise doing shit that is beyond what you will tolerate, let them know if they rejoin the human race the door is open but until then fuck off. Cult type groups deliberately do this, fostering obnoxious behavior in their members that causes them to alienate others, whether it's literally ordering them to disconnect from people who disagree or just being such utter jerks people voluntarily do that on their own. You're literally doing exactly what the SJWs want if you just make it permanent. Always leave the door open, at least a little bit, not to continued bullshit, but to rejoining humanity.

The exception is obviously if they've done something beyond unforgivable or are literally dangerous.
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That's very good advice, thank you. I did pretty much that as well, told them until they could tolerate people not believing the same things as they do, and until they were willing to be less of a fascist bigot, I couldn't have anything to do with them. It's not a decision I took lightly, but I'd not experienced behaviour like that before in real life to that extent, and I don't want to start being on the receiving end of it now if I can avoid it.


And you're spot on about the cult part of that, I think. IdPol/SocJus whatever they all are, are cults.
 
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Playstation is simping for BLM. Strange that they're doing it now instead of back in May.
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FatalTater said:
I am about 99% of the way to cutting a couple of close people off for good over this shit. It hurts. One of them posted a thing that I've seen floating around facebook and I just ignored it. Being a good human to other humans is not Red or Blue, dammit!

A friend of a friend wrote this and I am posting it so that those who may not understand why I'm 'blue' in a 'red' state understand why.
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Maybe this will help you understand me and others like me better:
I'm a liberal, but that doesn't mean what a lot of you apparently think it does. Let's break it down, shall we? Because quite frankly, I'm getting a little tired of being told what I believe and what I stand for. Spoiler alert: Not every liberal is the same, though the majority of liberals I know think along roughly these same lines:
1. I believe a country should take care of its weakest members. A country cannot call itself civilized when its children, disabled, sick, and elderly are neglected. Period.
2. I believe healthcare is a right, not a privilege. Somehow that's interpreted as "I believe Obamacare is the end-all, be-all." This is not the case. I'm fully aware that the ACA has problems, that a national healthcare system would require everyone to chip in, and that it's impossible to create one that is devoid of flaws, but I have yet to hear an argument against it that makes "let people die because they can't afford healthcare" a better alternative. I believe healthcare should be far cheaper than it is, and that everyone should have access to it. And no, I'm not opposed to paying higher taxes in the name of making that happen.
3. I believe education should be affordable. It doesn't necessarily have to be free (though it works in other countries so I'm mystified as to why it can't work in the US), but at the end of the day, there is no excuse for students graduating college saddled with five- or six-figure debt.
4. I don't believe your money should be taken from you and given to people who don't want to work. I have literally never encountered anyone who believes this. Ever. I just have a massive moral problem with a society where a handful of people can possess the majority of the wealth while there are people literally starving to death, freezing to death, or dying because they can't afford to go to the doctor. Fair wages, lower housing costs, universal healthcare, affordable education, and the wealthy actually paying their share would go a long way toward alleviating this. Somehow believing that makes me a communist.
5. I don't throw around "I'm willing to pay higher taxes" lightly. If I'm suggesting something that involves paying more, well, it's because I'm fine with paying my share as long as it's actually going to something besides lining corporate pockets or bombing other countries while Americans die without healthcare.
6. I believe companies should be required to pay their employees a decent, livable wage. Somehow this is always interpreted as me wanting burger flippers to be able to afford a penthouse apartment and a Mercedes. What it actually means is that no one should have to work three full-time jobs just to keep their head above water. Restaurant servers should not have to rely on tips, multibillion-dollar companies should not have employees on food stamps, workers shouldn't have to work themselves into the ground just to barely make ends meet, and minimum wage should be enough for someone to work 40 hours and live.
7. I am not anti-Christian. I have no desire to stop Christians from being Christians, to close churches, to ban the Bible, to forbid prayer in school, etc. (BTW, prayer in school is NOT illegal; *compulsory* prayer in school is - and should be - illegal). All I ask is that Christians recognize *my* right to live according to *my* beliefs. When I get pissed off that a politician is trying to legislate Scripture into law, I'm not "offended by Christianity" -- I'm offended that you're trying to force me to live by your religion's rules. You know how you get really upset at the thought of Muslims imposing Sharia law on you? That's how I feel about Christians trying to impose biblical law on me. Be a Christian. Do your thing. Just don't force it on me or mine.
8. I don't believe LGBT people should have more rights than you. I just believe they should have the *same* rights as you.
9. I don't believe illegal immigrants should come to America and have the world at their feet, especially since THIS ISN'T WHAT THEY DO (spoiler: undocumented immigrants are ineligible for all those programs they're supposed to be abusing, and if they're "stealing" your job it's because your employer is hiring illegally). I believe there are far more humane ways to handle undocumented immigration than our current practices (i.e., detaining children, splitting up families, ending DACA, etc).
10. I don't believe the government should regulate everything, but since greed is such a driving force in our country, we NEED regulations to prevent cut corners, environmental destruction, tainted food/water, unsafe materials in consumable goods or medical equipment, etc. It's not that I want the government's hands in everything -- I just don't trust people trying to make money to ensure that their products/practices/etc. are actually SAFE. Is the government devoid of shadiness? Of course not. But with those regulations in place, consumers have recourse if they're harmed and companies are liable for medical bills, environmental cleanup, etc. Just kind of seems like common sense when the alternative to government regulation is letting companies bring their bottom line into the equation.
11. I believe our current administration is fascist. Not because I dislike them or because I can’t get over an election, but because I've spent too many years reading and learning about the Third Reich to miss the similarities. Not because any administration I dislike must be Nazis, but because things are actually mirroring authoritarian and fascist regimes of the past.
12. I believe the systemic racism and misogyny in our society is much worse than many people think, and desperately needs to be addressed. Which means those with privilege -- white, straight, male, economic, etc. -- need to start listening, even if you don't like what you're hearing, so we can start dismantling everything that's causing people to be marginalized.
13. I am not interested in coming after your blessed guns, nor is anyone serving in government. What I am interested in is the enforcement of present laws and enacting new, common sense gun regulations. Got another opinion? Put it on your page, not mine.
14. I believe in so-called political correctness. I prefer to think it’s social politeness. If I call you Chuck and you say you prefer to be called Charles I’ll call you Charles. It’s the polite thing to do. Not because everyone is a delicate snowflake, but because as Maya Angelou put it, when we know better, we do better. When someone tells you that a term or phrase is more accurate/less hurtful than the one you're using, you now know better. So why not do better? How does it hurt you to NOT hurt another person?
15. I believe in funding sustainable energy, including offering education to people currently working in coal or oil so they can change jobs. There are too many sustainable options available for us to continue with coal and oil. Sorry, billionaires. Maybe try investing in something else.
16. I believe that women should not be treated as a separate class of human. They should be paid the same as men who do the same work, should have the same rights as men and should be free from abuse. Why on earth shouldn’t they be?
I think that about covers it. Bottom line is that I'm a liberal because I think we should take care of each other. That doesn't mean you should work 80 hours a week so your lazy neighbor can get all your money. It just means I don't believe there is any scenario in which preventable suffering is an acceptable outcome as long as money is saved.
Copy & Paste if you desire...

Oh, and nobody google "woke coach" if you want to keep any hope alive in your heart.
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Funny how most of the points boil down to "I don't want to do thing that you're afraid that the left wants to do, but here's how I actually want to do it.
 
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Smug Cat said:
The SFPD have caught and arrested the antifa who sucker-punched the black organizer of the free speech rally in San Francisco on Saturday. Looks like they're charging him with mayhem with a hate crime enhancement, which is surprisingly based for San Francisco.

https://abc7news.com/free-speech-rally-san-francisco-tech-protest-un-plaza-conservative/7164912/ (archive)
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Hate crime? That's bullshit, the Black guy was attacked for being one of the most notorious Proud Boys.

It's still funny to see an antifa hit with that charge,though. Based Black rebel using America's racial double standards for the good of us all. :popcorn:
 
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💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗 said:
Hate crime? That's bullshit, the Black guy was attacked for being one of the most notorious Proud Boys.

It's still funny to see an antifa hit with that charge,though. Based Black rebel using America's racial double standards for the good of us all. :popcorn:
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Yeah I'm curious about the logic there. Maybe they have some indication he hit that guy specifically for being a black wrongthinker instead of for being just a wrongthinker. Progressives don't hate anything more than they hate a minority who leaves the plantation.
 
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Yeah I'm curious about the logic there. Maybe they have some indication he hit that guy specifically for being a black wrongthinker instead of for being just a wrongthinker. Progressives don't hate anything more than they hate a minority who leaves the plantation.
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I wonder if there was any logic beyond "a White guy hit a Black guy, therefore they must be a racist". In today's world, the oppression card is a very useful tool.
 
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💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗 said:
I wonder if there was any logic beyond "a White guy hit a Black guy, therefore they must be a racist". In today's world, the oppression card is a very useful tool.
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It's possible. I would very much not expect that logic to be applied in San Francisco with a conservative victim, though.
 
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💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗 said:
Hate crime? That's bullshit, the Black guy was attacked for being one of the most notorious Proud Boys.

It's still funny to see an antifa hit with that charge,though. Based Black rebel using America's racial double standards for the good of us all. :popcorn:
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Political beliefs are a protected category in Cali. They made the laws to protect the communists, but it means you can sue for a civil rights violation when you get thrown out of a bar for a MAGA hat or press hate crime charges for being attacked for being a Proud Boy.
 
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AnOminous said:
I'd rarely if ever actually do that. But if someone is acting completely intolerably to the point you simply can't allow them to continue to be abusive, it doesn't really matter why, whether it's joining a cult, being an alcoholic or on drugs, stealing you, or otherwise doing shit that is beyond what you will tolerate, let them know if they rejoin the human race the door is open but until then fuck off. Cult type groups deliberately do this, fostering obnoxious behavior in their members that causes them to alienate others, whether it's literally ordering them to disconnect from people who disagree or just being such utter jerks people voluntarily do that on their own. You're literally doing exactly what the SJWs want if you just make it permanent. Always leave the door open, at least a little bit, not to continued bullshit, but to rejoining humanity.

The exception is obviously if they've done something beyond unforgivable or are literally dangerous.
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Good advice, but (IMHO) I'd say this current year stuff is far too egregious to leave the door open. Hear me out:

Too many of these people do not want you to provide proof even when they smugly bark at you for it on facebook. Remember that there still are adults out there on facebook who openly called for a CHILD to be brutally murdered in some of the most gruesome ways possible (Nick Sandmann). This is what I like to call: "You showed me exactly what you will do if you think it benefits you."

Analogy: Remember the girl who lost her job at Chipotle because a band of feral pavement apes from little Mogadishu said she was being "racist?" And remember when, not 24 hours had passed, and dozens of people on the internet provided proof by video and screenshots that this cluster of bulbheads had a long storied history of bilking restaurants out of food. They were PROUD.
And Chipotle offered the girl her job back. And when I saw that I prayed she told every damn one of them to sit and spin. Why? Because they showed her WHAT. THEY. WILL. DO.
When we get to this level of moral bankruptcy, forgiveness should be off the table completely. Because if it happened even once, it'll happen again. Now is the time to protect yourselves.

And FWIW, any corporate or other store employee with Chipotle should've just walked the way the Seattle Police officers are doing. Because you just saw a demonstration of how doing the right thing and STANDING UP for your employees (who make all you money for you) and STANDING UP for your friends--real friends--will ruin your life. Because people like this simply do not care.

So neither should anyone else.
 
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Puff said:
Political beliefs are a protected category in Cali. They made the laws to protect the communists, but it means you can sue for a civil rights violation when you get thrown out of a bar for a MAGA hat or press hate crime charges for being attacked for being a Proud Boy.
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I believe that only applies to employment discrimination. At least I can't find any mention of political affiliation in the California hate crimes statute.
 
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I believe that only applies to employment discrimination. At least I can't find any mention of political affiliation in the California hate crimes statute.
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I know it covers being served in restaurants and such. A few cases have been won there recently.
I thought it was a blanket addition of political affiliation as a protected class which would effect hate crime statutes, but they may be written differently or it may only be for civil claims, not criminal.
 
💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗 said:
I wonder if there was any logic beyond "a White guy hit a Black guy, therefore they must be a racist". In today's world, the oppression card is a very useful tool.
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When he gets to jail and word get around to the nigs that he assaulted a Black, none of his "I'm an antiracist" excuses are gonna matter.. Their tribalism knows no logic.
Is there a pic of the assailant?
 
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