New York Post got their hands on a hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop and shows Joe Biden lied about Hunter's dealings with Ukraine

Couple stories on the New York Post

FBI has had the laptop for over a year already and didn't say anything. Remember when Trump got impeached for congratulating the new President of the Ukraine?

What the hell is the FBI doing?

Supposedly there is also a video of him engaged in a "sex act" and a couple of photo's of him. This is one is particular juicy

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& Mikes off for last Debate :story: :story:
Debate commission promises changes after chaotic Trump-Biden faceoff

Rachek Madeow Confirmed on show today about the change. :story:
Sept. 30, 2020, 12:48 PM CDT / Updated Sept. 30, 2020, 3:05 PM CDT
By Lauren Egan
WASHINGTON — The Commission on Presidential Debates announced Wednesday that it is considering format changes for remaining debates after President Donald Trump repeatedly disregarded the rules, resulting in a chaotic debate that lacked in substantive policy conversation.

"Last night’s debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues," the CPD said in a statement. "The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly."

The CPD works with both candidates ahead of the debates to arrive at an agreed-upon set of rules. Changing the structure of the debates at the last minute is highly unusual and a testament to just how out of control Tuesday night's event was.

The rules specified that the candidates would generally get two uninterrupted minutes to answer most questions, but from the beginning, Trump began interrupting and hectoring Biden during his responses, and the debate quickly deteriorated.

It is unclear exactly what changes the CPD will propose, but a source close to the commission said it was considering the ability to cut off a candidate’s microphone when the rules are violated.


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Immediately following Tuesday's debate — which was described by one TV host as "a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck" — critics of the process began to discuss whether it was even worth it for either candidate to participate in future debates. On social media and cable television, there were many suggestions that the only way to have a productive debate would be to cut off the mics of the candidates when they step out of line.

Moments before the commission released its statement, Democratic nominee Joe Biden told reporters at a campaign stop in Ohio that he hoped the future debates would be organized differently.

"Well, you know, he not only attacked me constantly and my family, but he attacked the moderator," Biden said of Trump.

"I just hope there's a way in which the debate commission can control the ability of us to answer the question without interruption. I'm not going to speculate on what happens in the second or third debate."

Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh disagreed with the CPD Wednesday, writing in a statement that the commission "shouldn’t be moving the goalposts and changing the rules in the middle of the game."

Tuesday's moderator, Fox News host Chris Wallace, was criticized by some for struggling to rein in the pandemonium, but the commission acknowledged the difficult task he had been handed.

"The Commission is grateful to Chris Wallace for the professionalism and skill he brought to last night’s debate and intends to ensure that additional tools to maintain order are in place for the remaining debates," they said.

"I’m just sad with the way last night turned out," Wallace told the New York Times in an interview Wednesday. "I never dreamt that it would go off the tracks the way it did."

Wallace also pushed back on suggestions that muting candidates' microphones would help make the debates calmer.

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"As a practical matter, even if the president’s microphone had been shut, he still could have continued to interrupt, and it might well have been picked up on Biden’s microphone, and it still would have disrupted the proceedings in the hall," he said.

Trump in a tweet on Wednesday afternoon retorted that the debates should try "getting a new Anchor and a smarter Democrat candidate!"

The commission divided the first debate into six 15-minute segments, each touching on a different topic. Wallace began each segment with an opening question and the candidates were given two minutes to answer with the opportunity to then respond to each other.

Trump frequently cut into Biden's two minutes, derailing the debate and causing an incensed Biden to ask the president, "Will you shut up, man?"


'Will you shut up man?': Biden blasts Trump for interrupting
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As is tradition with the presidential debates, Wallace was not supposed to act as a fact-checker. That proved to be challenging after Trump used the debate platform to spread misinformation about a wide range of topics, including voting and election security.

Members of Trump's family were also criticized for ignoring health rules that required debate attendees to keep a face mask on during the entirety of the event due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Although many of the president's family members entered the debate hall wearing a face mask, Eric, Tiffany, Ivanka, Melania and Donald Trump, Jr. removed their face coverings once inside and sat maskless throughout the 90-minute event.

The Cleveland Clinic, a co-host of the debate and a health advisor to the commission, said it did not know yet whether its recommendations would be adjusted for the remaining debates.

Ahead of the first debate, some Democrats and media watchers warned that the traditional moderating methods might not be sufficient given Trump’s penchant for spreading misinformation.

In an interview with CNN on Sunday, Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr., co-chair of the commission, pushed back on the idea that the commission would need to rethink its structure.

"The commission's function is to put on television before the people of the United States with the two candidates. They will act as they’re going to act. We have no control over that. And it is for [voters] to make judgment based upon what they have seen," Fahrenkopf said.

The CPD is a nonpartisan organization founded in 1987 tasked with running general election presidential and vice presidential debates. Tuesday marked the 31st debate the commission has hosted.

Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., will meet next Wednesday for the only vice presidential debate of the election cycle.

The next presidential debate between Trump and Biden is on Oct. 15 in Miami, and it is currently supposed to be a town hall format. They are scheduled to go head to head in the final presidential debate on Oct. 22 in Nashville.

Reminder that in the first debate, it was Biden that started the interrupting. He interrupted Trump 4 separate times before Trump did it back to him.
 
It wouldn't even go to the basic operation of Wikipedia, but rather the Wikimedia slush fund. Wikipedia itself could be hosted for a couple million a year in bandwidth and basic IT upkeep, yet somehow it's now a sprawling leviathan with $165 million in assets, $90 million in annual expenses, and $118 million in annual revenue. Anyone who falls for one of those Jimmy Wales guilt ads is a sucker, Wikipedia doesn't need money in the slightest.
There's a lot of stuff they host that is never used in actual articles, like images and videos which can drive up server costs. The total dumb of all English Wikipedia (minus media files) articles is less than 20 GBs. That does give me hope there can possibly be an alternative in the future if 20 GBs can contain near the whole world's knowledge.
Ah, good ol' wordpress leads to another leak of files.
We still haven't seen the all contents of Weiner's laptop but I get your point. The CIA has admitted to the Guatemala coup and Obama was forced to admit to the decades-long syphilis study there. The government freely admits to its crimes. People just don't want to accept that everything they were taught to believe as children is a lie.

edit-it was disclosed during Bushie's tenure.
That's why people have their finger's crossed about pedo stuff coming out. It's the only thing that will really shock normies how bad things really are. Though as I said earlier, Hilary's email scandal was enough to sink her in the swing states. This is a similar situation in a lot of ways. The media and establishment are trying really hard to cover this up, meaning its either going to get worse or what has come out is bad enough to warrant panic.
 
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We still haven't seen the all contents of Weiner's laptop but I get your point. The CIA has admitted to the Guatemala coup and Obama was forced to admit to the decades-long syphilis study there. The government freely admits to its crimes. People just don't want to accept that everything they were taught to believe as children is a lie.

edit-it was disclosed during Bushie's tenure.

The US government has always been up to shenanigans. If you go all the way back to the founding, a major contributing factor to the revolution was due to Southern landholders being overleveraged to the hilt on land in the Ohio Valley. When London decided that there would be no expansion west of the Appalachian, southern land holders like Geoege Washington became very invested in the screeching of Northern Merchants.

The issue I see here though is that the rot these emails reveal go beyond simple self interest. George Washington going to war with England to preserve his Ohio Valley investment makes for some good schadenfreud, but what he was doing ultimately served the national interest. A sitting vice president using his family to take "investments" from the Chinese communists? That is beyond the pale.

It goes back to my larger point. We accept there is a layer of self interest in our leaders. What we cannot accept is that self interest be to the total detriment of the national interest. And that is what is alleged here now. but the worst, and most damning part? The rank and file institutional beaurocracry has become the willing flunky in advancing these corrupt schemes.

And that is what is truly unforgivable. We can ignore corrupt officials. But corrupt governing institutions? Have I mentioned before that if true the contents of this scandal can get people killed?
 
The US government has always been up to shenanigans. If you go all the way back to the founding, a major contributing factor to the revolution was due to Southern landholders being overleveraged to the hilt on land in the Ohio Valley. When London decided that there would be no expansion west of the Appalachian, southern land holders like Geoege Washington became very invested in the screeching of Northern Merchants.

The issue I see here though is that the rot these emails reveal go beyond simple self interest. George Washington going to war with England to preserve his Ohio Valley investment makes for some good schadenfreud, but what he was doing ultimately served the national interest. A sitting vice president using his family to take "investments" from the Chinese communists? That is beyond the pale.

It goes back to my larger point. We accept there is a layer of self interest in our leaders. What we cannot accept is that self interest be to the total detriment of the national interest. And that is what is alleged here now. but the worst, and most damning part? The rank and file institutional beaurocracry has become the willing flunky in advancing these corrupt schemes.
During the Depression and after WWII the elites decided having a prospering middle class was good for the country and thus good for them. They stopped thinking that way in the sixties and middle class went on a downward spiral in the 70s from which it have never recovered while the elites became richer and more authoritarian. Trump is the son of a middle class man who became wealthy in the post war period and I think he's still the son of that middle class Queens construction guy. Trump believes it's the middle class who made this country great while the other elites are on the globalist gravy train.

I believe nothing short of a war is going to resolve this, and I don't mean civil war although in theory that's what it takes to fix an issue like this.
 
During the Depression and after WWII the elites decided having a prospering middle class was good for the country and thus good for them. They stopped thinking that way in the sixties and middle class went on a downward spiral in the 70s from which it have never recovered while the elites became richer and more authoritarian. Trump is the son of a middle class man who became wealthy in the post war period and I think he's still the son of that middle class Queens construction guy. Trump believes it's the middle class who made this country great while the other elites are on the globalist gravy train.

I believe nothing short of a war is going to resolve this, and I don't mean civil war although in theory that's what it takes to fix an issue like this.

Trump likes to compare himself to Lincoln, and honestly I am becoming increasingly convinced the comparison is accurate. Lincoln was after all an insurgent candidate, who came to power despite the best efforts of the washington establishment to prevent it. They even refused to put him on the ballot in numerous states remember. And when he still won...the Democratic party went into a full and psychotic melt down that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths, the scouring of Missouri, Georgia and Virginia and a shakey truce whose after effects we live to this day.

But I think the best comparison to Trump and Lincoln is Lincolns inaugural address and the best quote from it.

"In your hands my fellow countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of Civil War".

2020 approaches its climax. I honestly believe what these emails reveal, and knowing that...I dont think I can accept a Biden presidency. With all that may entail. And this understanding terrifies me to the point that I wish this stuff had never seen the light of day.
 
I believe nothing short of a war is going to resolve this, and I don't mean civil war although in theory that's what it takes to fix an issue like this.
not a civil war
but a holy war
a jihad
nothing less for the God Emperor
accurate. Lincoln was after all an insurgent candidate, who came to power despite the best efforts of the washington
Honest Abe was also experienced in the world of wrasslin with his legendary Rail Splitter Choke Slam
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The US government has always been up to shenanigans. If you go all the way back to the founding, a major contributing factor to the revolution was due to Southern landholders being overleveraged to the hilt on land in the Ohio Valley. When London decided that there would be no expansion west of the Appalachian, southern land holders like Geoege Washington became very invested in the screeching of Northern Merchants.

The issue I see here though is that the rot these emails reveal go beyond simple self interest. George Washington going to war with England to preserve his Ohio Valley investment makes for some good schadenfreud, but what he was doing ultimately served the national interest. A sitting vice president using his family to take "investments" from the Chinese communists? That is beyond the pale.

It goes back to my larger point. We accept there is a layer of self interest in our leaders. What we cannot accept is that self interest be to the total detriment of the national interest. And that is what is alleged here now. but the worst, and most damning part? The rank and file institutional beaurocracry has become the willing flunky in advancing these corrupt schemes.

And that is what is truly unforgivable. We can ignore corrupt officials. But corrupt governing institutions? Have I mentioned before that if true the contents of this scandal can get people killed?

If the emails highlight what I think they will -proof of Biden being paid off by the CCP while in office - then the likes of Nixon's scandal will seem like but a wet fart in contrast.
 
Trump likes to compare himself to Lincoln, and honestly I am becoming increasingly convinced the comparison is accurate. Lincoln was after all an insurgent candidate, who came to power despite the best efforts of the washington establishment to prevent it. They even refused to put him on the ballot in numerous states remember. And when he still won...the Democratic party went into a full and psychotic melt down that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths, the scouring of Missouri, Georgia and Virginia and a shakey truce whose after effects we live to this day.

But I think the best comparison to Trump and Lincoln is Lincolns inaugural address and the best quote from it.

"In your hands my fellow countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of Civil War".

2020 approaches its climax. I honestly believe what these emails reveal, and knowing that...I dont think I can accept a Biden presidency. With all that may entail. And this understanding terrifies me to the point that I wish this stuff had never seen the light of day.
He will be like Lincoln when he wins a second term, sends the feds to occupy the Western states, forces anyone holding office to take the Oath, puts the commies in chains and enacts Reconstruction 2.0,
 
Why does it always end in kiddy didling?
If there's one thing rapists love it's flaunting their power.
Now imagine that kind of faggotry, but add it with the over-decadance of the hollywood elite.
Now add that with politics.

You get this shit.
Wrap it up everyone. Hunter's Wikipedia page has been edited to say it's a hoax.


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I love the part where they think adding tabloids that all source the same information magically makes it right.
Especially the part where the ones from last year are decrying how there's no evidence yet, and the recent ones are now saying the evidence is fake because the news from last year says the "hoax was a hoax."

Circular logic, lol.
 
If the emails highlight what I think they will -proof of Biden being paid off by the CCP while in office - then the likes of Nixon's scandal will seem like but a wet fart in contrast.
Nixon's only scandal was pissing off the press by getting their golden boy Alger Hiss jailed for purjury. Everything else was pretextual.
 
Matthew Tyrmand is Tweeting out leaked emails right now. Here is a link to one of them, check his timeline for 6+ others. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Devon Archer was a partner with Hunter Biden and Christopher Heinz in the firm Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC. Christopher Heinz is the stepson of former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

Christopher Heinz is an heir of the Heinz family fortune, of Heinz 57 Ketchup. Rosemont Seneca Partners is a private investment firm that partners with a Chinese firm named Bohai (or Bo Hai). Their joint firm is called Bohai RST (Bohai Rosemont Seneca Thornton). Thornton is the Thornton Group which represents Bulger family interests.

Bohai is owned by the Bank of China and Chinese military. Bohai RST has sold American military drone and aircraft technology to the Chinese military.
 

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Matthew Tyrmand is Tweeting out leaked emails right now. Here is a link to one of them, check his timeline for 6+ others. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Devon Archer was a partner with Hunter Biden and Christopher Heinz in the firm Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC. Christopher Heinz is the stepson of former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

Christopher Heinz is an heir of the Heinz family fortune, of Heinz 57 Ketchup. Rosemont Seneca Partners is a private investment firm that partners with a Chinese firm named Bohai (or Bo Hai). Their joint firm is called Bohai RST (Bohai Rosemont Seneca Thornton). Thornton is the Thornton Group which represents Bulger family interests.

Bohai is owned by the Bank of China and Chinese military. Bohai RST has sold American military drone and aircraft technology to the Chinese military.

Wow. This just builds on the throw-away line from Giuliani's interview w/ Lavine yesterday when he mentioned Joe Biden being a partner in a firm that has Chinese intelligence officials on the board.

And this is a second link to John Kerry's kids after the reveal yesterday that they were trying to funnel Ukrainian funding into her film production start-up.

Edit: Guess this explains the ketchup reference emails from yesterday.

But who is this Matthew Tyrmand dude?

It really doesn't get any more treasonous than selling military secrets to foreign powers. Wow.
 
Matthew Tyrmand is Tweeting out leaked emails right now. Here is a link to one of them, check his timeline for 6+ others. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Devon Archer was a partner with Hunter Biden and Christopher Heinz in the firm Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC. Christopher Heinz is the stepson of former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
Despite how I feel about Dubya, one of his best feats had to be defeating Kerry. I can't fathom what would happen in the darkness if he was in office.
 
The US government has always been up to shenanigans. If you go all the way back to the founding, a major contributing factor to the revolution was due to Southern landholders being overleveraged to the hilt on land in the Ohio Valley. When London decided that there would be no expansion west of the Appalachian, southern land holders like Geoege Washington became very invested in the screeching of Northern Merchants.

The issue I see here though is that the rot these emails reveal go beyond simple self interest. George Washington going to war with England to preserve his Ohio Valley investment makes for some good schadenfreud, but what he was doing ultimately served the national interest. A sitting vice president using his family to take "investments" from the Chinese communists? That is beyond the pale.

It goes back to my larger point. We accept there is a layer of self interest in our leaders. What we cannot accept is that self interest be to the total detriment of the national interest. And that is what is alleged here now. but the worst, and most damning part? The rank and file institutional beaurocracry has become the willing flunky in advancing these corrupt schemes.

And that is what is truly unforgivable. We can ignore corrupt officials. But corrupt governing institutions? Have I mentioned before that if true the contents of this scandal can get people killed?

The Washington bit is pretty much conspiracy theory. At least for Washington, who's primary political two-facing was the Whiskey Rebellion - and fuck those guys.

A much better example of Liberty Duplicity is the Boston Tea Party.
The Boston Tea Party transpired because London was bailing out the East India Company since the market was over saturated with Tea - they were willing to let the EIC sell their surplus in the American Colonies, tax free. Shopkeepers could get the tea at a discount and sell it at a discount. The Governor of Massachusetts thought this would be a swell way to do a one-two punch of both reducing the simmering tensions by saving everyone money on a staple, and rewarding pro-government Merchants - who were the only ones who'd be allowed to buy the tea.
Knowing that is was going to hurt their bottom line, a bunch of merchants started a riot to dump the tea.
 
"We're not with the Russians, you're with them!"
Didn't the DNI just come out yesterday and say "lol, no" to this?

And people will still listen to this. People are more loyal to corporations than to the government.
During the Depression and after WWII the elites decided having a prospering middle class was good for the country and thus good for them. They stopped thinking that way in the sixties and middle class went on a downward spiral in the 70s from which it have never recovered while the elites became richer and more authoritarian. Trump is the son of a middle class man who became wealthy in the post war period and I think he's still the son of that middle class Queens construction guy. Trump believes it's the middle class who made this country great while the other elites are on the globalist gravy train.

I believe nothing short of a war is going to resolve this, and I don't mean civil war although in theory that's what it takes to fix an issue like this.
A part of me thinks a civil war is going to be necessary because life has become too much like high school where everything is drama but no one thinks it is worth throwing a punch. Neither side respects the other because they haven't "proven their mettle" so to speak.

Elites have been dividing people for generations through media manipulation (when was the last time media showed a blue collar job having dignity?)

So Americans would have to stop allowing themselves to be divided or we're going to have an old fashioned throwdown because humans are Orks at their core.
not a civil war
but a holy war
a jihad
nothing less for the God Emperor

Honest Abe was also experienced in the world of wrasslin with his legendary Rail Splitter Choke Slam
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Wonder if they had a Macho Man back in those days.
 
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