2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The idea that this is an illegitimate process is absurd. If RGB had died after the election Trump could still nominate and the Senate still could confirm a justice until the next president is sworn in. The Constitution only says the president nominates and the Senate confirms, so until Trump is no longer the president, he still has the power to nominate judges and justices.

You're forgetting the 0th Amendment. "All rules are off if the Democrats lose an election that they "should have" won."

Very rarely cited Amendment.
He should just do what Pence did in the VP debate and talk about w/e he wants to. Assert dominance, bring up Hunter Biden.

Mic will be cut if he tries that.

I think his best bet is to drop the debate, citing whatever the hell is hitting the day before from Rudy. Which Trump will obviously know about already.
 
I don't know guys. I think that Trump should do the debate. The folks at MSNBC would never lie about that.
Personally, I think they're trying to get him to drop out of another debate. That's the only reason they're shoving the rules around so hard, despite already agreeing to them in writing. They think that just because they got him to drop out of one already (Well, technically) by shuffling the cards, they can do it again and avoid having a situation where Trump holds a national stage smack in the middle of a raging scandal against Joe Biden.

If these debate changes had anything to do with "interruptions" they would have announced it awhile ago. That they only seem interested in flipping the table over now that they've shoved Biden into hiding to try and ride out this laptop scandal makes it pretty damned obvious what the sudden change of heart is about.
 
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You're forgetting the 0th Amendment. "All rules are off if the Democrats lose an election that they "should have" won."

Very rarely cited Amendment.

Mic will be cut if he tries that.

I think his best bet is to drop the debate, citing whatever the hell is hitting the day before from Rudy. Which Trump will obviously know about already.
I don't know guys. I think that Trump should do the debate. The folks at MSNBC would never lie about that.
This is a battle on the enemy's terms. Watched Tucker tonight and even though the neoliberals are cucks, they have enough true believers to try to attempt some bullshit like a South African style kangaroo court. Trump should fire the head of the FBI and CIA though also if he and the GOP have any sense of self-preservation left.

Trump should skip the debates and the media will shit on him regardless. We are getting close to the day of the election and no minds will be changed by whatever charade the democrats throw.
 
I honestly have no idea what I think Trump should do with this final debate ... If he doesn't show up, then the media will crucify him. If he does, then he shows up on the enemy's terms, where they are literally dictating the narrative about Hunter Biden right now, and where they can mute Trump if he speaks up about it anyway.

The media is playing a very dirty and rigged game right now. Damn.
 
I honestly have no idea what I think Trump should do with this final debate ... If he doesn't show up, then the media will crucify him. If he does, then he shows up on the enemy's terms, where they are literally dictating the narrative about Hunter Biden right now, and where they can mute Trump if he speaks up about it anyway.

The media is playing a very dirty and rigged game right now. Damn.

He can't show cowardice, even when everyone knows it's stacked against him. His base doesn't want a tactical retreat, they want a fighter.

His plan for debate 1 was to strip progressive support away from Biden, but he was a bit clumsy doing it (don't call your shots on stage, man, let the dupes come to their own conclusion that they were thrown under the bus). I'd expect his whole plan for debate 3 to be getting that Hunter Biden story in front of people.

He'll snap off his standard bullet points on everything else, take the expected verbal beating, and maybe even fall for a Kafka trap again. But if he can also force cable news networks to talk about the one scandal they refuse to talk about, he gets a win.

Sometimes you just have to take your lumps and get through a fight.
 
He can't show cowardice, even when everyone knows it's stacked against him. His base doesn't want a tactical retreat, they want a fighter.

His plan for debate 1 was to strip progressive support away from Biden, but he was a bit clumsy doing it (don't call your shots on stage, man, let the dupes come to their own conclusion that they were thrown under the bus). I'd expect his whole plan for debate 3 to be getting that Hunter Biden story in front of people.

He'll snap off his standard bullet points on everything else, take the expected verbal beating, and maybe even fall for a Kafka trap again. But if he can also force cable news networks to talk about the one scandal they refuse to talk about, he gets a win.

Sometimes you just have to take your lumps and get through a fight.
Oh, I totally get that; I want Trump to fight as well ... But it's going to be hard to fight when the moderator can apparently mute him. It just blows my mind that the Debate Committee is all like "Yeah, we're changing the topic of the last debate; no foreign policy talk this year!" The brazen bias for Biden just keeps reaching new heights that surprise and horrify me. The timing, man ... It's beyond Orwellian.

Apparently Hunter's e-mails have more incriminating and disturbing evidence that will eventually come to light; looks like the Andrew Breitbart strategy of "slow dripping the information" is taking place here. Hopefully the next drip will happen within the next two days, before the debate.
 
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I honestly have no idea what I think Trump should do with this final debate ... If he doesn't show up, then the media will crucify him. If he does, then he shows up on the enemy's terms, where they are literally dictating the narrative about Hunter Biden right now, and where they can mute Trump if he speaks up about it anyway.

The media is playing a very dirty and rigged game right now. Damn.

Since it's a turnout election, rigged debates are probably in Trump's favor as long as he fights back and comes out as the underdog, and it's obvious enough for the typical complacent rube to notice and energize,

Threatening to pull out without foreign policy back on the table should work, that's a very hard thing to spin against him, even knowledge of it shows weakness from Biden, Trump should broadcast that however he can, every day leading up, that Joe's afraid of foreign policy, maybe because of how compromised he is to all the countries he took deals from.

Maybe he can do the same to avoid muting but that's way less likely, it's too easy to spin.

Other than that, I guess he'll have to find a way to turn being muted to his advantage, maybe he can just pull out a paper to hold up or something, maybe with the specific location of Biden's earpiece to prompt some live evasiveness and damage control for Biden, or who knows.
 
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I honestly have no idea what I think Trump should do with this final debate ... If he doesn't show up, then the media will crucify him.

I see nothing to be gained from the debate anymore. The moderator is going to continue the trend of being a shithead that constantly interrupts, and they will no doubt mute Trump constantly for the most bogus reasons. Biden will only be muted or interrupted whenever it's clear that he's about to make an ass of himself.

Better to call it off and raise a stink that they're coddling biden (a fucking presidential candidate) like a toddler that can't handle anything by himself.

He can't show cowardice, even when everyone knows it's stacked against him. His base doesn't want a tactical retreat, they want a fighter.

He stopped attending the big republican debates when it was clear that everyone was coordinating together to take him down. It's not such a suicidal idea to bail at this stage.
 
Trump should unironically drop this next debate like he did during the Republican primaries in 2016 one time.

This is clear cut rigging and if there are any undecideds left then they are a lost cause at this point lol. After all the nation has been through, still can't decide what future America they want to live in.

This is clearcut rigging at this point and the game is to the enemy's advantage.
Agreed, he should just set up his own town hall or something and cut out the middle man this time.
Muting in debates sounds nice at first but when you really think about it, it's going to get fucky real quick and can only be used in Biden's favor in this case.

We already saw one debate be clearly anti-Trump and Russians hacking Scully proved his bias as well. Chances are pretty high that Kirsten (of NBC fame) is going to be as biased as we've seen to date.
 
Agreed, he should just set up his own town hall or something and cut out the middle man this time.
Muting in debates sounds nice at first but when you really think about it, it's going to get fucky real quick and can only be used in Biden's favor in this case.

We already saw one debate be clearly anti-Trump and Russians hacking Scully proved his bias as well. Chances are pretty high that Kirsten (of NBC fame) is going to be as biased as we've seen to date.
She will be the most biased yet. She won't pull a Guthrie, but Biden will look good that night at least once no matter what.
 
He can't show cowardice, even when everyone knows it's stacked against him. His base doesn't want a tactical retreat, they want a fighter.

His plan for debate 1 was to strip progressive support away from Biden, but he was a bit clumsy doing it (don't call your shots on stage, man, let the dupes come to their own conclusion that they were thrown under the bus). I'd expect his whole plan for debate 3 to be getting that Hunter Biden story in front of people.

He'll snap off his standard bullet points on everything else, take the expected verbal beating, and maybe even fall for a Kafka trap again. But if he can also force cable news networks to talk about the one scandal they refuse to talk about, he gets a win.

Sometimes you just have to take your lumps and get through a fight.
I am getting a Pickett's charge feeling out of this. Trump is Pickett, Biden is Hancock behind the media wall, the fence is the moderators with expanded powers and we people on this site who support Trump are General Armistead. This is too much for even Trump to handle. I know we all inflate his ego and shit and he was vast media experience. But this is like third world tier dirty politics. First world politics don't work in third world shitholes.

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Got some statistics here for the past 5 elections, Obama's win might have been more to do with Bush destroying the GOP. Should include approval ratings probably but which source is good?

Also LOL at Republicans mastering the art of sacrificing popular votes for more states.

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Other than Obama's win, elections have been somewhat tight.

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Trying to see if primaries predict turnout. I guess Obama was comfortable in 2012 as he did have solid support because if anyone tried to primary him, person would have been smeared as a racist.

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Incumbents defending their seats have higher turnout ratios.

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When both parties compete, its chaos but when its a incumbent defending their seat, they need a higher ratio to win.

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He can't show cowardice, even when everyone knows it's stacked against him. His base doesn't want a tactical retreat, they want a fighter.

His plan for debate 1 was to strip progressive support away from Biden, but he was a bit clumsy doing it (don't call your shots on stage, man, let the dupes come to their own conclusion that they were thrown under the bus). I'd expect his whole plan for debate 3 to be getting that Hunter Biden story in front of people.

He'll snap off his standard bullet points on everything else, take the expected verbal beating, and maybe even fall for a Kafka trap again. But if he can also force cable news networks to talk about the one scandal they refuse to talk about, he gets a win.

Sometimes you just have to take your lumps and get through a fight.
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He should just do what Pence did in the VP debate and talk about w/e he wants to. Assert dominance, bring up Hunter Biden.
Theyll just cut the mike and brow beat him. This is literally going to be like @Null debating Ethan on the Dick Show. Hes just going to get attacked except he wont be able to read lolicon play SS13 like our fearless faggot.
I am getting a Pickett's charge feeling out of this. Trump is Pickett, Biden is Hancock behind the media wall, the fence is the moderators with expanded powers and we people on this site who support Trump are General Armistead. This is too much for even Trump to handle. I know we all inflate his ego and shit and he was vast media experience. But this is like third world tier dirty politics. First world politics don't work in third world shitholes.

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Got some statistics here for the past 5 elections, Obama's win might have been more to do with Bush destroying the GOP. Should include approval ratings probably but which source is good?

Also LOL at Republicans mastering the art of sacrificing popular votes for more states.

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Other than Obama's win, elections have been somewhat tight.

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Trying to see if primaries predict turnout. I guess Obama was comfortable in 2012 as he did have solid support because if anyone tried to primary him, person would have been smeared as a racist.

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Incumbents defending their seats have higher turnout ratios.

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When both parties compete, its chaos but when its a incumbent defending their seat, they need a higher ratio to win.

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My friend is now on a psychiatric hold because he tried to pull the same shit with nfl and college sports data, turns out this year you cant expect shit to follow the trend you force the data to fit through.
 
Theyll just cut the mike and brow beat him. This is literally going to be like @Null debating Ethan on the Dick Show. Hes just going to get attacked except he wont be able to read lolicon play SS13 like our fearless faggot.

My friend is now on a psychiatric hold because he tried to pull the same shit with nfl and college sports data, turns out this year you cant expect shit to follow the trend you force the data to fit through.
I am not trying to become a cuck like Nate Silver.

However just want to show how past elections went down and the data shows some correlation between turnout ratios in the election to primary for incumbents as they usually get the default uncontested win whereas the challenger has to struggle with motivating people to show up. Also the GOP wins by state count whereas Democrats win with big population states.

Hell let's just play the prediction game as the official statistics shit posting master of Kiwifarms. Incumbents had a ratio of 8 and Trump hit 17000K. So I predict over 130000K popular votes. For Biden since he had around 19000K and challenger ratio is 6, I predict over 110000K votes. Trump will probably get around 32 states compared to 18 for Biden. DC can suck a dick.

There is no consistent data on incumbent losers since there was Carter, Ford and Bush. And the primary systems were different back then. Carter and Ford was back to back though.
 
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Democrats are making a great case for the cuckservatives in the GOP to embrace RWDS and militias. If Twitter and Facebook already hasn't done enough, Democrats turning themselves in Nazis to own Trump is amusing.

Also Robert Reich, a cuckold whom ANTIFA would never respect, wrote a book about a populist that might fuck things up for the elite and is mad that it happened.

Tucker needs to get some thumbnails that aren't him making the "it wasn't just a fart" face
 
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although it is pretty fucking retarded that the topics are literally the fucking same as the first debate so in that regard, it feels like a trap; they already talked about covid and shit, why not talk about other issues?

Honestly I'm not sure how to handle this if I were Trump

He should probably do something major like fire the head of the FBI and replace him with one of his guys just before the debate to get people distracted, obviously and try to bring up Hunter Biden in the debates if he does so, but do it in a way that catches them off guard so it's harder to mute.

You're forgetting the 0th Amendment. "All rules are off if the Democrats lose an election that they "should have" won."

Very rarely cited Amendment.

Mic will be cut if he tries that.

I think his best bet is to drop the debate, citing whatever the hell is hitting the day before from Rudy. Which Trump will obviously know about already.

I'm pretty sure they might try but if Trump sneaks it in by opening with an answer and then bringing up the laptop scandal at the end of the sentence, that could throw them off guard and get Biden to act very strange
 
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