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[giraffes on coffee]

Just...

 

[Magnum_D.U.I.]

So, what was Vic's announcement? Sounds heavy.

 

[Nontransferable]

Vic's image of God using him was getting more roles and recognition, so he could be a bigger light for God. His recent revelation was the sobering thought that God's plan was not to make him more successful, but to put him through what happened, and let everyone see how God loving he is after.

 

[Allanon]

Sheesh. How does one dude end up just this pure and wholesome while surrounded by absolute snakes?

I just want good things for him.

 

[Riku]

Uhm I don't think I get what he said, not being christian makes it even more confusing.
Guess is it...neutral in the sense it's not negative nor positive?

 

[quickthrowaway]

Vic's announcement started with the story of Joseph and the coat of many colors. A story of how Joseph was sold into slavery, but God used that for good. Vic parallels this past year with what happened to him. Vic wondered if God's purpose was to see how he would respond (test his faith).

I was hoping this was a setup to him announcing he was playing Joseph in a version of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

 

[Allanon]

Uhm I don't think I get what he said, not being christian makes it even more confusing.
Guess is it...neutral in the sense it's not negative nor positive?

I didn't see the announcement, but if I understand what's being quoted, he's saying that he got a bit narcissitic (in his own mind), believing that God would use him by pushing him further and further into success to allow him to be a beacon of light and positivity, but he's realized now that this last year has really been a test of faith, like Joseph being sold into Egypt as a slave and betrayed by his own brothers, or like Job losing everything and suffering to prove that he still loves and believes in God, even in the darkest of times and even when things don't go well for him, and he can still be a light in a different way because people are watching him, and see that he doesn't curse God or abandon his faith just because things haven't gone his way.

I dunno if he finished that off with any other conclusion or plan for the future, but that much is fairly understandable.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I was hoping this was a setup to him announcing he was playing Joseph in a version of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Honestly, I'm not sure if Vic could out-do Donny Osmond as Joseph. He'd make for a good Pharaoh, though (albeit sometimes one of Joseph's brothers plays him to ham up the rock star persona).

 

[Allanon]

Honestly, I'm not sure if Vic could out-do Donny Osmond as Joseph. He'd make for a good Pharaoh, though (albeit sometimes one of Joseph's brothers plays him to ham up the rock star persona).

I bet he'd enjoy voicing for a Prince of Egypt version/remake.

 

[giraffes on coffee]

Uhm I don't think I get what he said, not being christian makes it even more confusing.
Guess is it...neutral in the sense it's not negative nor positive?

Basically he thinks God is using this hardship to test his faith. That if he acts right through this it's a better testimony than just being "famous" and successful. It's easy to love God when things are great, but what about when things are bad? Do you actually love God for real or was it for attention?

He's showing he really does love God no matter what and thinks that this is so he can show that to people. So people can see how a real Christian is supposed to act.

 

[Riku]

I think I have a clearer picture now, thanks Allanon and giraffes!
The reasoning is quite understandable and even if I'm not a believer, I share the sentiment and I dearly hope whoever's up there is out looking out for Vic and all of us out here in 2020, this is quite the horrifying year and we could all be humbler and kinder towards ourselves&others.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Think this can also be a lesson for everyone that come what may (e.g. appeals outcome), don't be discouraged but also don't lower yourself to others' standards. Vic sounds like he's coming to terms with it and is finding peace. He's certainly in a better place than he could've been just a year ago.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Uhm I don't think I get what he said, not being christian makes it even more confusing.
Guess is it...neutral in the sense it's not negative nor positive?

Let's put it into context:
Joseph was hated by his 11 brothers because God gave him a vision that they would one day bow before him.
Joseph was also dearly loved by his father (as evident when Joseph received a coat of many colors from him), so they couldn't do anything to him openly.
Still, they hatched a plot to secretly get rid of him.
The brothers isolated Joseph and shoved him into a pit.
Some suggested they kill Joseph, but one of them suggested he be sold into slavery instead.
So, they sold Joseph to some slavers heading to Egypt.
They then tore up Joseph's prized coat and splattered animal blood on it so they could lie to their father that Joseph was killed by a wild animal.

As for Joseph, he endured the life of a slave and was eventually brought into the house of Potiphar, the captain of the Pharaoh's Guard.
Joseph worked hard and eventually earned Potiphar's trust to watch his household in his absence.
Unfortunately, Potiphar's wife lusted after Joseph and tried to seduce him.
Joseph rejected her advances, but was #MeToo'd as a result.
Joseph was then thrown into prison.

While Joseph was in prison, God gave him the ability to interpret dreams.
There he interpreted the dreams of the former royal baker and the former cupbearer.
He foretold that the baker would die, but the cupbearer would be restored to his position.
Joseph asked the cupbearer that when this came to pass to remember him.
The cupbearer did not remember Joseph until the Pharaoh himself started having troubling dreams.

At the cupbearer's recommendation, Joseph was brought before Pharaoh to interpret his dreams.
Joseph explained that the Pharaoh was being shown a 14-year event: 7 years of prosperity, followed by 7 years of famine.
He advised that Egypt should stockpile supplies that would last them through the 7 years of famine.
Pharaoh would put Joseph in charge of the necessary preparations, making Joseph his right hand in the operation.

During the famine years, Joseph learned of some foreigners that entered Egypt: his brothers (plus a younger brother he never met).
So, Joseph prepared a test for them involving framing the younger brother for stealing the royal cup - to see how far they were willing to save their brother.
Eventually, the brothers came before him. Guess what they did? They BOWED BEFORE HIM to plead mercy for their younger brother.
During this, Joseph revealed his true identity and shocked them.
Joseph was merciful and no harm was done to his brothers (Joseph eventually reunited with his father, too).


I'm starting to think it isn't a coincidence that Vic's middle name is Joseph.

 

[AnOminous]

Joseph was hated by his 12 brothers because God gave him a vision that they would one day bow before him.

I'm pretty sure Joseph was one of 12 brothers and therefore only had 11 himself. Also depends on how you count because they were half-brothers (except for one).

 

[TheClappening]

I was hoping this was a setup to him announcing he was playing Joseph in a version of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

*multicolor gaypants

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I'm pretty sure Joseph was one of 12 brothers and therefore only had 11 himself. Also depends on how you count because they were half-brothers (except for one).

True.
I made the proper corrections.

 

[Riku]

Let's put it into context:
Joseph was hated by his 11 brothers because God gave him a vision that they would one day bow before him.
Joseph was also dearly loved by his father (as evident when Joseph received a coat of many colors from him), so they couldn't do anything to him openly.
Still, they hatched a plot to secretly get rid of him.
The brothers isolated Joseph and shoved him into a pit.
Some suggested they kill Joseph, but one of them suggested he be sold into slavery instead.
So, they sold Joseph to some slavers heading to Egypt.
They then tore up Joseph's prized coat and splattered animal blood on it so they could lie to their father that Joseph was killed by a wild animal.

As for Joseph, he endured the life of a slave and was eventually brought into the house of Potiphar, the captain of the Pharoh's Guard.
Joseph worked hard and eventually earned Potiphar's trust to watch his household in his absence.
Unfortunately, Potiphar's wife lusted after Joseph and tried to seduce him.
Joseph rejected her advances, but was #MeToo'd as a result.
Joseph was then thrown into prison.

While Joseph was in prison, God gave him the ability to interpret dreams.
There he interpreted the dreams of the former royal baker and the former cup bearer.
He foretold that the baker would die, but the cup bearer would be restored to his position.
Joseph asked the cup bearer that when this came to pass to remember him.
The cup bearer did not remember Joseph until the Pharoh himself started having troubling dreams.

At the cup bearer's recommendation, Joseph was brought before Pharoh to interpret his dreams.
Joseph explained that the Pharoh was being shown a 14 year event: 7 years of prosperity, followed by 7 years of famine.
He advised that Egypt should stockpile supplies that would last them through the 7 years of famine.
Pharoh would put Joseph in charge of the necessary preparations, making Joseph his right hand in the operation.

During the famine years, Joseph learned of some foreigners that entered Egypt: his brothers (plus a younger brother he never met).
So, Joseph prepared a test for them involving framing the younger brother for stealing the royal cup - to see how far they were willing to save their brother.
Eventually, the brothers came before him. Guess what they did? They BOWED BEFORE HIM to plead mercy for their younger brother.
During this, Joseph revealed his true identity and shocked them.
Joseph was merciful and no harm was done to his brothers (Joseph eventually reunited with his father, too).


I'm starting to think it isn't a coincidence that Vic's middle name is Joseph.

Once again, thanks for the clarifications.
Uhm...wasn't this made as a toon movie years back? The plot does ringle some bells within me, think I've saw it.
Just searched it, yep it was The Prince of Egypt prequel by Dreamworks, titled infact "Joseph: King of Dreams" from the Genesis, welp now I'm feeling old, damn it.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I'm starting to think it isn't a coincidence that Vic's middle name is Joseph.

Even though it's a common name (popularity's steadily declining, however), "Joseph" is a blessed name, I feel like, and not just because it's a biblical name. From "Yosef", "he will add", it makes for good guidance during rough times, but promises greatness (albeit not necessarily of the positive kind, see Joseph Stalin). This is also interesting to note:

In the Middle Ages, Joseph was a common Jewish name, being less frequent among Christians. In the late Middle Ages Saint Joseph became more highly revered, and the name became popular in Spain and Italy.

So through his Italian heritage, he's pretty much named after a saint. His mom really wanted him to remember his name and treat it with respect. Middle names get unfairly overlooked.

 

[Riku]

Even though it's a common name (popularity's steadily declining, however), "Joseph" is a blessed name, I feel like, and not just because it's a biblical name. From "Yosef", "he will add", it makes for good guidance during rough times, but promises greatness (albeit not necessarily of the positive kind, see Joseph Stalin). This is also interesting to note:



So through his Italian heritage, he's pretty much named after a saint. His mom really wanted him to remember his name and treat it with respect. Middle names get unfairly overlooked.

I can confirm this, as the italian counterpart of Joseph which is Giuseppe is still quite common especially in the older generations, now is less used yet still pretty common name for males just like Maria is for females.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I can confirm this, as the italian counterpart of Joseph which is Giuseppe is still quite common especially in the older generations, now is less used yet still pretty common name for males just like Maria is for females.

Just for fun:

Funny how alternate spellings/cultures change people's perception of a name.