2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Ita Mori]

The problem is that they scared them to NOT vote in person. Because "Coof is the end times" meme, if they aren't murdering the early vote by 50 points, they are fucked on election day, when all the Republican boomers come out to vote because they think its just the flu.

Yeah, but then the Antifags and dangerhairs will storm the few polls up and try and ransack the place to oppress voting.

 

[b0o0pinsn0o0tz]

Serious question guys. Will Hunter Biden's cp fuckery hurt sleepy Joe or is that voter base just too brainwashed?

 

[heyitsmike]

he'd be on track to get at least Bush in 2004 margins

Umm, that's like, not very impressive dawg.

Trump had a bigger win in 2016 than Bush did in 2004.

Serious question guys. Will Hunter Biden's cp fuckery, hurt sleepy Joe or is that voter base just too brainwashed?

Hunter's shenanigans aren't meant to discourage the Dem base, they're meant to discourage left leaning independents.

 

[Someone Awful]

Covid is the only thing holding Trump down at this moment. I firmly believe if 'muh 200 million!' wasn't getting tossed in his face every possible moment he'd be on track to get at least Bush in 2004 margins if not Obama level numbers.

Bush's 2004 margins is not that impressive. Sure he got the majority of the popular vote, but like in 2000, he only won by one state (Ohio) which he won by only a little bit over 2%. He also had less electoral votes than Trump in 2016. Bush got 286 electoral votes, Trump got 304 and won by three states. Granted by razor thin margin, but three states is better than one.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

Covid is the only thing holding Trump down at this moment. I firmly believe if 'muh 200 million!' wasn't getting tossed in his face every possible moment he'd be on track to get at least Bush in 2004 margins if not Obama level numbers.

Same here. 2004 Bush is an apt comparison as I think Trump would have been slightly below Bush's 49-53% approval range without coof but with a better electoral map. I'm still a doomer with believing Coof gifts Biden the presidency tbh though.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Umm, that's like, not very impressive dawg.

Trump had a bigger win in 2016 than Bush did in 2004.

Hunter's shenanigans aren't meant to discourage the Dem base, they're meant to discourage left leaning independents.

Bush's 2004 margins is not that impressive. Sure he got the majority of the popular vote, but like in 2000, he only won by one state (Ohio) which he won by only a little bit over 2%. He also had less electoral votes than Trump in 2016. Bush got 286 electoral votes, Trump got 304 and won by three states. Granted by razor thin margin, but three states is better than one.

2004 Bush isn't particularly impressive, true but it's still a popular and electoral vote victory and the worst case scenario I'd see for a 2020 election without Covid. I think the inbuilt TDS is too strong for anything more than an Obama landslide which would be my optimistic prediction for a Covidless 2020. Yes, the total popular vote count itself means jack shit when it comes to deciding who actually wins the presidency but it might at least tamp down some of the screeching that Drumph is an illegitimate president that only won because of an archaic system designed by evil slaveowners or something.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

On Governor Whitmer:

Her legal excuse for continuing mask mandates, restrictions on capacity and gatherings, and the like is that she isn't the one issuing them anymore. Now it's the Department of Health and Human Servces and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
Someone is doing something about it, namely suing the director of the MDHHS for overreach. There will doubtless be more lawsuits against the MDHHS and MiOSHA.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/10/chiropractor-challenges-michigans-new-mask-mandate-in-lawsuit.html

Realistically speaking, she's not going anywhere until 2022.
Impeachment would require 4 Democrat state senators to turn on her and 16 Democrat state representatives to turn or lose their seats this fall (Senators aren't up for reelection until she is).
Recall is not feasible. It would require over a million signatures in 60 days to even start the process. There are at least two groups with competing petitions, who aren't working together.

As another poster once said: 2021 is going to be the year of the lawsuit.

Illan Omar and her daughter are also playing. All of the streamers are simping hard for AOC, one round, they found out that shes imposter at the beginning then were like oh we can't vote her out, finally voted her out at the end but treated it like they had to put down their sick puppy. The only streamer that isn't simping is Cr1tikal. AOC seems to not know how to play.

I genuinely fear that AOC is going to be the standard for Millennial politicians going forward.

Early data is already showing that the youngins don't give a shit.

What would make the "youths" start getting interested in politics, I wonder?

 

[Harvey Danger]

Serious question guys. Will Hunter Biden's cp fuckery hurt sleepy Joe or is that voter base just too brainwashed?

The day the NY Post article dropped they already brainwashed their base into saying it's Russian disinformation campaign. Every lefty I've talked to believes it's mUh rUsSiA 3.0 or just an outright lie by Giuliani. You would need the actual pictures to leak, along with an explicit text/email saying Joe knew, for it to flip the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho base.

 

[Aidan]

Russia needs to let China and Iran get a few points, they always get all the election interference wins.

 

[Someone Awful]

Yeah, but then the Antifags and dangerhairs will storm the few polls up and try and ransack the place to oppress voting.

Which would backfire if they tried that. If Antifa and dangerhairs try to prevent Trump voters from voting, not only would they receive pushback, it would get a few fairweather voters who witness the bullshit to vote for Trump simply to spite these people. There will be likely Biden voters and if they're more leaners than solid, than a display like that could change their minds on the spot.

Same here. 2004 Bush is an apt comparison as I think Trump would have been slightly below Bush's 49-53% approval range without coof but with a better electoral map. I'm still a doomer with believing Coof gifts Biden the presidency tbh though.

I'd be with you on the doomerism if Trump was fighting for his life in the hospital instead of heading there to make sure things did not get that much worse.

I still believe Trump is competitive. Baris's poll has him ahead in Florida and Arizona. He also polled Pennsylvania and while Biden was ahead by 2.4%, that was done a week ago. In October 24, 2016, Clinton was ahead in Baris's poll by 3% in Pennsylvania. Mid-October, he also said Clinton was up 3% in Wisconsin, half of her lead in September. He has thirteen days left to close the gap in the Rust Belt and I still think he could do it even with early voting being larger this year.

The day the NY Post article dropped they already brainwashed their base into saying it's Russian disinformation campaign. Every lefty I've talked to believes it's mUh rUsSiA 3.0 or just an outright lie by Giuliani. You would need the actual pictures to leak, along with an explicit text/email saying Joe knew, for it to flip the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho base.

Frankly, I don't believe Giuliani should have ever made the CP accusation. He should have just focused on providing context to the text message Hunter Biden apparently sent to his father that he released today and not said anything unless the Delaware State Police or FBI (corrupt as they might be) confirmed it. It's an extremely high risk strategy for low rewards.

Speaking of the debate how exactly should Trump handle what will be a much more rigged debate than the last one? Foreign policy has been taken off the table (and we can guess why), the moderator will shut his mic off every time he says something they don't want to hear, and this debate is designed to remove the bar fighting aspect that we saw in the first debate and in the 2016 Republican primary. Instead, the moderators is determined that this represents more of a Oxford-style debate that specifically helps Biden and hurts Trump. Yet he can't back out of it because that would be seen as admitting defeat in this election. And we all know they will make sure Biden is pumped with even more drugs than last time.

Personally I'm just hoping that this is just a wash and Trump can still keep this a competitive race, but unlike last time, I'm not looking forward to watching the debate.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Primary Nominee Votes and Total Primary Votes for the Republicans and Democrats each election year.

Differences in popular votes between Democrats and Republicans

Primary and Election votes for each party.

Years where the incumbent lost.

Years where the incumbent won.

Years where both parties competed.

 

[Exterminatus]

Why they'd ever have hubris over a Biden/Harris ticket, I don't know.

Now, I'm still not confident Biden will lose, just because the entire media establishment and political establishment are against Trump, but Biden is a supremely weak candidate. I objectively think they've had stronger candidates compared to the Republicans over the past three decades, bar Trump. Biden is probably the worst and most feeble since at least Mondale.

I think they largely convinced themselves that 2016 was a fluke especially after they managed to retake the House in 2018.

"See guys, we aren't idiots, those Nazi Russians and that fat 4chan hacker guy were the only reason Trump won."

They could've spent time reflecting and shifting their positions to better match what the American people hoped to get from them but they just went further toward IdPol and blatant lies and taking things out of context.

Largely this is fueled by their own delusions that that is what Americans want, Americans want to see all these corporations paying lip service to BLM and Americans want to shun white people and pay reparations; and you know Americans love seeing "Made in China" on all their purchases and seeing people fired or laid off because their jobs are sent to China or India or even rendered obsolete because of automation.

Obviously not every Democrat thinks this way but as far as the DNC is concerned that's where they want to keep going but a Trump win here, especially if he can win enough to fend off ballot harvesting might lead to them changing course but that's very optimistic thinking.

Covid is the only thing holding Trump down at this moment. I firmly believe if 'muh 200 million!' wasn't getting tossed in his face every possible moment he'd be on track to get at least Bush in 2004 margins if not Obama level numbers.

If COVID hadn't struck I could see Trump doing much better in the polls, we'd still have Antifa/BLM rioting over all those dindunuffins but a law and order campaign would've helped out on that front and it'd be easier to counter than a Chinese plague even though the death toll has still been incredibly small when you see how large the US is and many of the fuck ups were the result of shitty governors like Cuomo and Whitmer.

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

Ewwww. Is that actually Ilhan Omar also playing with AOC? And moreover, Critikal you fuckin' sellout, you're playing with literal enemies of the state.

That manlet has been a shitter for awhile now, and I totally dropped him after he came out saying he was one of the faggots keeping the super sekrit CoH server run by some shitty Argentieian a sekret.

He was never really that funny to be fair, take out all the jokes about fart, cum, and cumfarts and that was 90% of his content.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Here is a table showing party unity ratios. For incumbent years, the incumbent with over 90% in the primary popular vote went on to win. Bolded the winners and Bold and Italicized GEOTUS and Sleepy Joe.

 

[Dyn]

Someone I know just said this in regards to the Hunter (AND Joe) Biden scandal:

"So what? Hunter Biden used his daddy's power to make millions. Who cares?" Way to oversimplify and just plain leave out the most important details! My goodness!

And, here's the shit cherry to put on top of the shit sundae that was just served to me: "Joe Biden could literally end up being Putin's long lost brother, and I would STILL believe that he needs to be President."

There you have it: I know people who see the corruption right before their very eyes, and they simply do not give a fuck. Democrats being corrupt as hell is a-okay to them! As someone once said, there's no point in trying to argue with someone that stubborn, hypocritical, and idiotic. Arguing with someone that ignorant and disingenuous is just a waste of time and energy ... And it would make me the idiot for engaging with someone that dumb.

Literally everyone in Washington DC is corrupt as hell, and everybody knows it. Only easily-swayed idiots would rethink their votes over the Hunter email or Trump tax return because we already know both of them are stealing from anything they can get their fat fingers into and will continue to steal, and continue get away with it. Just vote for whichever thief you like best.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Primary Nominee Votes and Total Primary Votes for the Republicans and Democrats each election year.

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Differences in popular votes between Democrats and Republicans
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Primary and Election votes for each party.
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Years where the incumbent lost.
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Years where the incumbent won.
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Years where both parties competed.
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Looking at the 2008 Democrat Primary voter turnout, I can now see why people like Nate Plastic keep going on and on about how Biden will have 2008 level turnout even if I heavily disagree.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Literally everyone in Washington DC is corrupt as hell, and everybody knows it. Only easily-swayed idiots would rethink their votes over the Hunter email or Trump tax return because we already know both of them are stealing from anything they can get their fat fingers into and will continue to steal, and continue get away with it. Just vote for whichever thief you like best.

You do realize that the Trump tax return where it shows that he "only paid $750" in taxes is a very manipulated narrative, right?

The 750 number is indeed there ... However, the tax return showed that $750 was the amount that Trump still owed. It did not show that he "only paid $750."

Not saying that Trump is squeaky clean or saintly. However, it's clear as day for me to see which guy is the bigger thief, the bigger abuser of power, and the bigger danger to our country on an international scale.

 

[Dyn]

Not saying that Trump is squeaky clean or saintly. However, it's clear as day for me to see which guy is the bigger thief, the bigger abuser of power, and the bigger danger to our country on an international scale.

Sure, and if he got caught squeaking an extra 50k a month out of some gopniks I'm sure it wouldn't change your vote. That's how your friend feels about Biden.

 

[GuntPunt]

Here is a table showing party unity ratios. For incumbent years, the incumbent with over 90% in the primary popular vote went on to win. Bolded the winners and Bold and Italicized GEOTUS and Sleepy Joe.

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If you can, can you compare NH primary vote totals? Baris said that NH primary exhibits if the incumbant party is in trouble.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Looking at the 2008 Democrat Primary voter turnout, I can now see why people like Nate Plastic keep going on and on about how Biden will have 2008 level turnout even if I heavily disagree.

Look at the 2020 Democrat Primary voter turnout, its on the same level but the difference is that Obama rigged it so almost everyone dropped out to fuck Bernie. 2008 was a battle between Hillary and Obama only.