2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Jeffrey Epstein]

I don't see anything big happening till after the votes are counted. With the exceptions of a few nutbags showing up to polling centers with guns "to prevent fraud" if they are red hats or "to protect voters" from the "Not Fucking Around" movement guys or New Black Panthers. Don't be surprised if a few of them cross a line and end up buried in a Fed prison for the next 10 years.

If Trump wins riots for sure, likely starting as soon as it's called. If Trump loses wingnuts coming out of every ass crack militia thinking they are about to jump off the Turner Diaries by shooting up liberals and minorities, though honestly we'll probably see that either way since we've already seen plenty of that action the past few years. Left wing domestic terrorism wouldn't really shock me but overall that scene isn't as organized as the right wing militia boys who've been jerking each other off out in the woods for the past 20 years.

This country is a fucking mess.

how many people do you think have the knowledge/skills to be sam fisher/indirect though? seems like the head on stuff would just be dumb and bad optics and not as effective as other means for the minecraft rwds or w/e.

 

[Taco]

how many people do you think have the knowledge/skills to be sam fisher/indirect though? seems like the head on stuff would just be dumb and bad optics and not as effective as other means for the minecraft rwds or w/e.

Dylan Roof was a rando who walked into a church and blasted a state senator and half a room full of black churchgoers. That dude in Texas shot up a Walmart full of Mexicans which was not a coincidence. That synagogue shooter in PA was some guy who attached to the "bowl patrol" online group. There was that boogaloo guy who ambushed the sheriffs in CA. Then there was that group "the Base" who were plotting the murder of some leftist couple in GA and also had a fugitive terrorist from Canada hiding in their Northeast cell who were arrested with a truck full of guns on their way to a Virginia 2A really after posting about popping off at that, then when the Feds started kicking doors the rest all scattered. Of course the plot to kidnap that governor they caught last week.

That's just off the top of my head but it doesn't take a ton of experience for someone to cause a lot of damage with the right equipment and there are plenty of people with the guns, experience, and numbers to really make a mess. A lot of the online groups chat logs are out there, I've read some of them and it's crazy shit and if you think I'm blowing this out of proportion you should really look into it more. For sure a lot of LARPers just gassing people up posting mass shooter memes but it only takes that one guy like PA shooter to make it real (he also posted memes in bowl patrol chat prior to shooting).

The Base got caught pre-pop off because they had a heavy online presence and were actively recruiting so the Feds made sure they were on the invite list but there's plenty of groups out there with the same dynamics out in the woods of bumfuck where the only way to get an invite is to come in with a trusted member and there's no discord channel just a bunch of crusty rednecks with a hard on for civil war gassing each other up in the woods.

In the wingnut accelerationist chats a frequent topic of conversation was if now was the right time to going on a killing spree to start a civil war or if it was too soon and would just be "bad optics" to go too early. I'm worried some of those "too soon" people are actually ready to pull the trigger when they feel the time is right and might decide that Trump losing the election is the moment they've been waiting for.

 

[Jeffrey Epstein]

Dylan Roof was a rando who walked into a church and blasted a state senator and half a room full of black churchgoers. That dude in Texas shot up a Walmart full of Mexicans which was not a coincidence. That synagogue shooter in PA was some guy who attached to the "bowl patrol" online group. There was that boogaloo guy who ambushed the sheriffs in CA. Then there was that group "the Base" who were plotting the murder of some leftist couple in GA and also had a fugitive terrorist from Canada hiding in their Northeast cell who were arrested with a truck full of guns on their way to a Virginia 2A really after posting about popping off at that, then when the Feds started kicking doors the rest all scattered. Of course the plot to kidnap that governor they caught last week.

That's just off the top of my head but it doesn't take a ton of experience for someone to cause a lot of damage with the right equipment and there are plenty of people with the guns, experience, and numbers to really make a mess. A lot of the online groups chat logs are out there, I've read some of them and it's crazy shit and if you think I'm blowing this out of proportion you should really look into it more. For sure a lot of LARPers just gassing people up posting mass shooter memes but it only takes that one guy like PA shooter to make it real (he also posted memes in bowl patrol chat prior to shooting).

The Base got caught pre-pop off because they had a heavy online presence and were actively recruiting so the Feds made sure they were on the invite list but there's plenty of groups out there with the same dynamics out in the woods of bumfuck where the only way to get an invite is to come in with a trusted member and there's no discord channel just a bunch of crusty rednecks with a hard on for civil war gassing each other up in the woods.

In the wingnut accelerationist chats a frequent topic of conversation was if now was the right time to going on a killing spree to start a civil war or if it was too soon and would just be "bad optics" to go too early. I'm worried some of those "too soon" people are actually ready to pull the trigger when they feel the time is right and might decide that Trump losing the election is the moment they've been waiting for.

yea but i'm assuming that a good number of trained patriots would use the skills they've gained to do their own recon missions on antifa if things in the country or parts of the country were chaotic in minecraft hero brine.

 

[Taco]

The couple "the base" was trying to kill in GA were picked because they were doxxed as antifa on some alt-right news site but they were just supposed to be a warm up to bigger things and it's not even clear if they were actually affiliated in reality. I think the bigger issue is that it's not like "killing antifa" accomplishes much. There's no big leader of antifa you could take out that actually changes anything in a meaningful way. Antifa is a loose collective by design so if someone disappears they would just fill in the ranks.

The end goal for most of the die hards is full on Turner Diaries. If you go on Facebook, Reddit, pol, or certain right wing channels that I'd consider pretty normie for such talk it's not hard to find people talking casually like they actually want a civil war, I'd bet there's even some of that in this thread somewhere. So these wingnuts are convinced at some point that ONE MORE terrorist attack is going to kick off full scale Helter skelter and that seems to be the end goal that drives most modern domestic terrorism.

If you are crazy enough to kill for your cause why would you waste your time killing some faceless antifa guy no one's ever heard of when you could start a civil war your side would win and you'd be forever recognized as a hero? If any of this sounds crazy to you congratulations, you do not have a diseased brain but I promise you this is the way some people think. Not a ton, but enough to be dangerous.

The "Patriots against antifa" is a different brand of idiot. They mostly hold rallies to taunt antifa into coming out then both sides play soccer hooligan in the middle of downtown. If both sides didn't actively play into this they would all probably be 1/10th of the size they are now and we'd all have less of a problem. Antifa can't stop taking the bait and there's no shortage of weekend warriors who think catching a felony to bait some Portland rando with dreadlocks and face tats into coming at you so you can split his wig actually accomplishes anything or lost college dropouts who think cracking some guy holding a Captain America shield with a bike lock who is only there in the first place for a chance to beat your hippy ass is in any way making the world a better place.

 

[Shroom King]

Because it tells you that they like dicks up their ass; or dicks up other men's butts.

I don't know that much about that sort of thing but aren't the ones with the feminine traits more likely assuming the role of receiver of butt-sex than the giver of butt-sex?

I bet Hunter Biden would know...

 

[GuntPunt]

Via James Woods on Twitter. Trump supporters with yards signs are being sent these

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https://tw.tinf.io/RealJamesWoods/status/1318816744065040384/photo/1

>Giving a warning about going burning your house down to Trump supporters with all the guns

We about to see more winners of the Darwin awar-

>In California

Oh.

Thing is, wouldn't Woods live in a Beverly Hills sort of gated community? Even though the SJW kids are radicalized worse than ISIS members, I think Woods is relaying it from somewhere if its real.

That, or he became redpilled after living in the 'hood for long enough and its real. Ehhh...50-50 with Antifa being a thing.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I don't see anything big happening till after the votes are counted. With the exceptions of a few nutbags showing up to polling centers with guns "to prevent fraud" if they are red hats or "to protect voters" from the "Not Fucking Around" movement guys or New Black Panthers. Don't be surprised if a few of them cross a line and end up buried in a Fed prison for the next 10 years.

If Trump wins riots for sure, likely starting as soon as it's called. If Trump loses wingnuts coming out of every ass crack militia thinking they are about to jump off the Turner Diaries by shooting up liberals and minorities, though honestly we'll probably see that either way since we've already seen plenty of that action the past few years. Left wing domestic terrorism wouldn't really shock me but overall that scene isn't as organized as the right wing militia boys who've been jerking each other off out in the woods for the past 20 years.

This country is a fucking mess.

I mostly agree except that most right wing militias are either LARPers or they will get honeypoted. If I had to make a prediction for the aftermath of a Biden victory, I could see 1, maybe 2, militias actually try something... and fail in a humiliating way that is used to pretty much mock anyone who was bragging about them doing anything and also shut down any more thoughts of pulling something. Anything more successful then that and the fallout will be used as ammunition to implement long term plans much quicker to deal with those militias and other potential long term threats.

Edit: You are completely right though that lone wolf attacks are actually pretty effective; Most intelligence agencies seem completely blind-sided when those happen.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I don't see anything big happening till after the votes are counted. With the exceptions of a few nutbags showing up to polling centers with guns "to prevent fraud" if they are red hats or "to protect voters" from the "Not Fucking Around" movement guys or New Black Panthers. Don't be surprised if a few of them cross a line and end up buried in a Fed prison for the next 10 years.

If Trump wins riots for sure, likely starting as soon as it's called. If Trump loses wingnuts coming out of every ass crack militia thinking they are about to jump off the Turner Diaries by shooting up liberals and minorities, though honestly we'll probably see that either way since we've already seen plenty of that action the past few years. Left wing domestic terrorism wouldn't really shock me but overall that scene isn't as organized as the right wing militia boys who've been jerking each other off out in the woods for the past 20 years.

This country is a fucking mess.

I would love riots after the news of a final 4 years of Trump. He'll likely sign Executive Orders to bring out waterhoses ala Israel.

Anyway one state that truly fascinates me is the State of Utah. Did you know that Utah in 2016 went to Trump by 45.5%, the runner ups being Hillary with 27.4% and Evan "Egg McMuffin" McMullen getting 21.5% of the vote acting as a Never Trump spoiler. Now according to Nate Copper of 538 Trump is only up 8 points in Utah.

For those who don't know Evan did very well in Utah despite being 3rd Party because he's Mormon and ran a campaign of being a strong social conservative. So to make sense of the current polls you have to believe that McMullen's base of conservative Mormons all switched en masse to Biden, the very socially liberal Pro-Choice who referred to Mitt Romney as the "Mormon Guy." Not only that but Trump somehow lost more than half his lead against Hillary.

So did Utah get a mass influx of liberals or is it possible that this is evidence of cooked polls to make Biden appear to have a far stronger lead than he actually has? I'm curious if other Red Stronghold states appear far more mixed than they actually are.

 

[Shiggy Diggster]

Mom went to vote today. Before stepping into the privacy of the booth they made her pick a red stylus or a blue stylus to vote with. Then when she went to review her vote, it had changed from Trump to Biden. The last part could easily be user error on her part, but the colored pens? Has anyone else encountered this?

 

[Tour of Italy]

Anyway one state that truly fascinates me is the State of Utah. Did you know that Utah in 2016 went to Trump by 45.5%, the runner ups being Hillary with 27.4% and Evan "Egg McMuffin" McMullen getting 21.5% of the vote acting as a Never Trump spoiler. Now according to Nate Copper of 538 Trump is only up 8 points in Utah.

For those who don't know Evan did very well in Utah despite being 3rd Party because he's Mormon and ran a campaign of being a strong social conservative. So to make sense of the current polls you have to believe that McMullen's base of conservative Mormons all switched en masse to Biden, the very socially liberal Pro-Lifer who referred to Mitt Romney as the "Mormon Guy." Not only that but Trump somehow lost more than half his lead against Hillary.

So did Utah get a mass influx of liberals or is it possible that this is evidence of cooked polls to make Biden appear to have a far stronger lead than he actually has? I'm curious if other Red Stronghold states appear far more mixed than they actually are.

“Up 8 points” means that he’s recaptured over half of the defectors from 2016. If Trump is up 8 in the same polling that underestimated his 2016 support by 6 points, that’s not a bad place to be. It’s excellent news for Trump in Utah and in other states with Mormon populations.


I talked about this exact thing in detail earlier:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2020-u-s-presidential-election.53249/post-7528618
Long story short, Mormons are more likely than not a shy Trump group and polling in Utah is hilariously bad to the point where in the past 15 years they’ve overestimated Democratic support by up to 10 points.

Mormons may be more likely to find Trump distasteful, but they’re far less likely to vote for the alternative. They just can’t overlook key socially conservative issues.

There’s a liberal core in Salt Lake and tiny pockets in Provo and Ogden, but by and large Utah is as red as it get. Maybe shifting blue with the rest of the country due to demographics, but I expect Trump to take Utah by 10 to 15 points more than he did in 2016.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Mom went to vote today. Before stepping into the privacy of the booth they made her pick a red stylus or a blue stylus to vote with. Then when she went to review her vote, it had changed from Trump to Biden. The last part could easily be user error on her part, but the colored pens? Has anyone else encountered this?

That's really fucked up that they'd have voters choose red (Republican) and blue (Democrats). The whole point of voting is that it's supposed to be anonymous, hence why you can't wear political slogans when you enter the polling.

 

[Desu Mountain]

Mom went to vote today. Before stepping into the privacy of the booth they made her pick a red stylus or a blue stylus to vote with. Then when she went to review her vote, it had changed from Trump to Biden. The last part could easily be user error on her part, but the colored pens? Has anyone else encountered this?

Did you tell her to call the police?

 

[Meat Target]

Mom went to vote today. Before stepping into the privacy of the booth they made her pick a red stylus or a blue stylus to vote with. Then when she went to review her vote, it had changed from Trump to Biden. The last part could easily be user error on her part, but the colored pens? Has anyone else encountered this?

I did, but chose a black pen. Was she able to fix it?

 

[DeadFish]

I mostly agree except that most right wing militias are either LARPers or they will get honeypoted. If I had to make a prediction for the aftermath of a Biden victory, I could see 1, maybe 2, militias actually try something... and fail in a humiliating way that is used to pretty much mock anyone who was bragging about them doing anything and also shut down any more thoughts of pulling something. Anything more successful then that and the fallout will be used as ammunition to implement long term plans much quicker to deal with those militias and other potential long term threats.

Edit: You are completely right though that lone wolf attacks are actually pretty effective; Most intelligence agencies seem completely blind-sided when those happen.

The best way to figjt is do an alas shrug. If Biden wins then you know they will come for your jobs, your kids and you. Just dont work and a national boycott will work. So would bankruns, running up debt refusing to pay.

Economic war is the only option for reactionaries

 

[Shiggy Diggster]

Did you tell her to call the police?

Yeah. Doubt she will though. It's easier to angrypost on boomerbook about it.

I did, but chose a black pen. Was she able to fix it?

I can only hope.

 

[Evilronald]

2020 has shown me that the American left is more insane than I ever imagined and that there is a legitimate mental health crisis in this country. Just imagine how much more unhinged these people will be in 2 weeks if the orange man wins again. Maybe Canada really shut the border to keep these people out in case Donald Trump won.

 

[GuntPunt]

 

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2020 has shown me that the American left is more insane than I ever imagined and that there is a legitimate mental health crisis in this country. Just imagine how much more unhinged these people will be in 2 weeks if the orange man wins again. Maybe Canada really shut the border to keep these people out in case Donald Trump won.

The biggest eye opener after GamerGate started and the left decided they needed to do a purge in the culture war of all non-Marxist elements was just how all this shit was just barely under the surface, and took absolutely nothing to drag it out. There was just a thin veneer of respectability covering over some of the most hateful, ignorant, bitchy, passive aggressive, snotty, entitled, arrogant fucks you could ever imagine, and a little friction (Gamers telling them "no, fuck you, you're wrong") was all it took to expose it.

And then Trump won despite everyone they deemed fit to be allowed to speak in their presence telling them exactly what they wanted to hear for a year or more, and the veneer didn't just flake away in places like during GG, it openly fucking shattered.

What's amusing is the left, especially the radical left, still "identifies as" the sane, rational, respectable party, the only one worth speaking to or about, whom everyone agrees with, who is the party of anti-racism so can never have a bad opinion on race, yadda yadda yadda. They honestly think they're the party of the working class.

The delusion is real.

 

[Orange Man Costume]

Mom went to vote today. Before stepping into the privacy of the booth they made her pick a red stylus or a blue stylus to vote with. Then when she went to review her vote, it had changed from Trump to Biden. The last part could easily be user error on her part, but the colored pens? Has anyone else encountered this?

There's special election ink that has silver nitrate, but you're supposed to apply that with your finger, its poisonous, has limited color options, and afaik isn't used in the US. So who knows, maybe it's a local election gimmick you can google, was it a swing state?

It's probably newsworthy if she calls local stations, the vote flip that is, afaik they also tend to pay for your time if they come down to interview.

 

[Evilronald]

The biggest eye opener after GamerGate started and the left decided they needed to do a purge in the culture war of all non-Marxist elements was just how all this shit was just barely under the surface, and took absolutely nothing to drag it out. There was just a thin veneer of respectability covering over some of the most hateful, ignorant, bitchy, passive aggressive, snotty, entitled, arrogant fucks you could ever imagine, and a little friction (Gamers telling them "no, fuck you, you're wrong") was all it took to expose it.

And then Trump won despite everyone they deemed fit to be allowed to speak in their presence telling them exactly what they wanted to hear for a year or more, and the veneer didn't just flake away in places like during GG, it openly fucking shattered.

What's amusing is the left, especially the radical left, still "identifies as" the sane, rational, respectable party, the only one worth speaking to or about, whom everyone agrees with, who is the party of anti-racism so can never have a bad opinion on race, yadda yadda yadda. They honestly think they're the party of the working class.

The delusion is real.

I just don’t see the point of these people’s existence. It seems like they only are around to bring misery to other people. If you’re unhappy, you should focus on and change your own life rather than think other people owe you anything. These are some of the most gullible and stupid people in society and they have 0 clue that they’re pawns of the ruling class to allow them continue to exploit the middle and lower classes. It makes 0 sense how we can have a multi-trillion dollar budget (even more if you include state and local taxes) but we can’t provide a decent education, access to healthcare, and safe streets to every American. But of course the woke left thinks that’s a race issue rather than a class one, it would be laughable if it wasn’t so devastating for regular people.