2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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People keep talking about Biden potentially kicking the bucket, but I got to wonder, can Soros handle another Trump win?
I don't think it matters at this point. He's been training his son Alexander to take over for a long time. There will be zero interruption of his agenda after he passes away.
 
It's amazing that the real October surprise wasn't the Hunter leaks; it was Joe completely imploding during the second debate.
Hot take: only having one more debate after the first (and also the microphone muting) forced him to really knuckle down and make yesterday's debate count. I think having one super strong outing was better for him than two mediocre ones.
 
I just don't see Florida going blue this year. Maybe I'm rainbow.
It more than likely isn't. It's the reddest it's ever been for a while, and the Latinos there really love Trump and hate the Democrats for leading towards communism. He also has a decent (for him at least) black voter percentage there.

If he gets it and Arizona back, and everything else is peachy keen, he just needs PA or any Rust Belt state to win, or he can get the mythical Nevada + New Mexico + bonus New Hampshire combo.

If for some godforsaken reason he loses Florida, wrap it up and get some long hours of sleep.

Also 227 + 38 is 265. I guess just win NM and win the whole thing.
 
See, I'm looking at this election from the opposite perspective.

Trump beat Hillary 304-227. So Biden needs to pull at least 35 electoral votes away from Trump. Where are they coming from?

Even if Biden (somethefuckhow) wins Pennsylvania, that's 20. If Biden flips both Pennsylvania and Michigan, that's 38 so Biden wins. I think that's Biden's main path to victory.

I just don't see Florida going blue this year. Maybe I'm rainbow.

The only other path is maybe Pennsylvania AND Arizona AND Wisconsin. Or Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Those are the two secondary paths to victory.

Either way, Biden fucked up when he couldn't help stating he was talking Pennsylvania oil jobs away.
Keep in mind that the 304-227 electoral result in 2016 was after faithless electorates took away votes from Trump and Clinton. Before that, it was at 306-232. Ironically, Clinton lost more electoral votes despite the campaign for thirty-six electorates to defect from Trump. That means in the scenario where Trump keeps all other states including Florida and Arizona, he only needs one of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Minnesota to be re-elected, a more than achievable task. Biden has to get a straight flush within those four states to win.

I'm with you on Florida. A couple of months ago, I was a lot more worried. But after evidence of increased black support, increased Hispanic support to the point where he may win the vote there, Florida and the incredible voter registration trends towards Republicans that are a solid indicator of which party wins, I firmly believe that not only does Trump win the state, he wins it by a few percentage. It's also important because if Trump wins re-election, it will bolster Republican Party's efforts to get nonwhites into their parties, which can keep states like Arizona, Texas, and Florida competitive as well as making New Mexico, Nevada, and maybe Colorado potential flips in the future. I guess nothing is impossible, but unless Biden has a much more enthusiastic base than we possibly imagined, Florida is not flipping.
 
Keep in mind that the 304-227 electoral result in 2016 was after faithless electorates took away votes from Trump and Clinton. Before that, it was at 306-232. Ironically, Clinton lost more electoral votes despite the campaign for thirty-six electorates to defect from Trump. That means in the scenario where Trump keeps all other states including Florida and Arizona, he only needs one of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Minnesota to be re-elected, a more than achievable task. Biden has to get a straight flush within those four states to win.

I'm with you on Florida. A couple of months ago, I was a lot more worried. But after evidence of increased black support, increased Hispanic support to the point where he may win the vote there, Florida and the incredible voter registration trends towards Republicans that are a solid indicator of which party wins, I firmly believe that not only does Trump win the state, he wins it by a few percentage. It's also important because if Trump wins re-election, it will bolster Republican Party's efforts to get nonwhites into their parties, which can keep states like Arizona, Texas, and Florida competitive as well as making New Mexico, Nevada, and maybe Colorado potential flips in the future. I guess nothing is impossible, but unless Biden has a much more enthusiastic base than we possibly imagined, Florida is not flipping.
Biden's keys to victory are honestly five things at this point if he can win:

1. A massive Trump fuck up that will piss everyone off (Least likely unless something really big happens)

2. People who want the first black female vice president (Also really least likely unless enough progressives, karens, and woketards are in droves)

3. People really pissed at Trump to get him out quickly (Sorta likely)

4. Early Voting saves Joe Biden (Sorta Likely)

5. Voter fraud (In the middle since it didn't help Hillary but it could be ramped up this year)

As for a Trump win, that could put many states in play like the ones mentioned as well as Minnesota and New Hampshire if possible. Especially if the Republicans embrace the working class image Trump is focusing on instead of honorable losers and conservative dick measuring contests that the Republican party was before Trump.
 
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Wouldn't that help him? Seems like people who'd want to vote Libertarian would jump ship to Trump, he's at least closer politically.
People tend to ditch 3rd parties at the very end. IIRC Johnson was polling at 6% and ended with 3%, a 3% boost to Trump. While the Joker this year is polling at 3% and should end with 1.5%, a 1.5% boost to Trump. Obviously, a 3% boost is better than a 1.5% one.
 
I don't think this is how math works Nate.

But you have to start planting the seed to beg ABC News to not fire your ass I guess.

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They must be feeling really bad about the debate to be hedging like this.

I know they go, "But 50 million people have already voted!". Yeah, but ~100 million still haven't yet.
 
unless enough progressives, karens, and woketards are in droves
And gullible normies under their spell
3. People really pissed at Trump to get him out quickly (Sorta likely)
What percentage of the population blames Trump for the Pinko Pox? Irrational as that is, you cannot underestimate the influence of the propaganda machine, or the stupidity of the masses. History is a lie agreed upon.
 
Yeah, but then the Antifags and dangerhairs will storm the few polls up and try and ransack the place to oppress voting.
Antifa can only really muster in deep blue cities, in solidly blue states, that aren't controlled by a different democratic faction. If they try and upset anything outside there, they will be sent packing or arrested. And if they disrupt voting in Portland pr Seattle? Good, it'll only help Trump get more popular votes.
I don't think this is how math works Nate.

But you have to start planting the seed to beg ABC News to not fire your ass I guess.

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He still doesn't realize that polling is not like science or sports data. Which is why he doesn't understand why Trump can win outside "muh statistics."
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Edit: I would phase out reposting my late content already posted by Salubrious, yes.
Big statement.
There's a fifty-fifty chance gravity will stop working in the next minute, because it either will or won't. If we extend the sample size to 10 minutes, that means our chance of having gravity in 10 minutes is 1 divided by 2 to the 10th power (1/1024), as it is a compounding probably so after 2 minutes we only have a 25% chance of having gravity and 3 miniutes equals 12.5%, etc. So you all need to grab on to something, so you don't float away.

I is very smartz in da maffs.

For my next business verture, since 1 woman makes a baby in 9 months (about 270 days), I will arrange for 269 women to help you produce a baby in a day, maybe in some sort of baby factory-spa. Think about it, you go out drinking with the girls on Friday night, take Saturday as a spa day, and can be back to drinking Sunday morning with a baby instead of waiting 9 months. It'll be very convenient. It's amazing how nobody came up with this before me.

But thats because I'm smartz with Maffs.

- Nate Plywood, Statistician
 
The problem Biden and the DNC have is that COVID is literally their only talking point possible.

Their actual policies (i.e. fracking, packing the courts) are all bullshit.

The DNC has one way to win the election - convince the American people that Trump is responsible for their deaths. That's it. That's the only card the DNC has.


The problem is that Joe was so doom and gloom in the debate, that the American people are going to look at Trump, who's saying reopen everything, and even if it goes "against the science", that's what they've wanted to months now. So even COVID is starting to turn into a point in Trump's favor because the DNC keeps screaming "LOCKDOWN!!!"
When the Coof happend in March/April, i thought that this could maybe be a blessing in disguise for the DNC, because people have criticized Trump for his healthcare policies, even the people in his own camp.

It's simply amazing how the DNC actually managed to make this a negative for themselves by the end of October. People are incredibly fed up by lockdowns and not being able to do their jobs and all the DNC say to this is "NO, YOU WILL DIE IF YOU DO."

And suddenly, Trump comes and says "reopen everything" and people become hopeful that they can go outside again, making money again and talk with people in person. That's what these people want and the only ones who don't want this where shut ins from the start.
 
yeah f you too...


that makes sense but doesnt take into account all the people working in oil production.
thats an low eudcation field full of mexicans who will be very sad if they lose their jobs.
getting paid realy good money is much more important for people than having some stupid family members from across the border.
Mexicans are idiots theyll vote dem because their job isnt their life (rape is)

That whole job = life shit works on tectonics but if you noticed that whole "X is anti-abortion, pro-church, they'll definitely vote GOP" shit didnt work on the blacks or asians so i highly doubt it will work on the spics.
 
"X is anti-abortion, pro-church, they'll definitely vote GOP" shit didnt work on the blacks or asians so i highly doubt it will work on the spics.
If Trump and the GOP can pretend to treat them like mythical beings like Democrats to Blacks, then some headway can be made. Either that or we annex Cuba under a Republican presidential administration to pump the numbers up, or break a better deal to Mexico, so those resources (oil) make them and us rich (again?) and Demographics is Destiny is stalled for the moment.
 
Ya know, as the people who love to spout off about their "lived experiences" they sure love to discount the experiences of those they disagree with.
'Lived experiences' has always been an excuse to drag policy discussions away from statistics which intuitively point towards optimal outcomes, in favour of only the most visceral cherry-picked sob stories activists can find in order to push pre-conceived agendas.
 
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