Inactive Chloe Sagal / John Paul Neumann - Self-Immolated to Protest The US Mental Health System. Currently Being Exploited by her "Allies".

[ScarletJusticeWitch]

Okay then. I'm trans. You don't get to say what I find offensive and don't. You don't get to speak for me.

EDIT - Two and a half pages between this and her ban and she never replied. I guess lumping all trans people into one convenient group so you can climb atop them to reach the soapbox is more productive than actually being into this whole "personal respect" and "every voice matters" thing that the SJWs are usually wailing about.

Yo, I just saw this now.

First off, you're saying I don't define what you find offensive and how DARE that SJW tell ME what I FIND offensive this is the REAL OPPRESSION and the usual notyourshield bullshit, but... the problem is you're telling me I shouldn't find it offensive. I don't care what you do or don't find offensive, but the fact is that many trans people do. You can't just call everyone who is hurt by these remarks a "social justice warrior"and act like every cool trap acts like you do. There are any number of negative names for this trope, but you should know what I'm talking about. I don't represent every trans person, but you do so even less so than me. And I'm saying this is offensive on the basis of being trans - which it is. I'm not saying everyone will be offended. But that doesn't mean it's not transphobic.

A post before you agreed that Deadnaming was not a nice thing to do with someone. Then when I called someone out for it - saying they had no right to tell someone that they shouldn't be hurt for it because "words only have the power we give them"(which again, is bullshit, not a matter of opinion and we'd need to throw most of sociology out of the window for this to even work) you got all bothered about it.

I mean basically your purpose is to go "Hey, I'm trans. I don't find this offensive. Please continue doing this thing that almost every other trans person that isn't me finds hurtful."

This forum isn't just "anti-SJW", full on transphobic remarks, ungendering of trans women like Laverne Cox happens here and people criticising it are shot down. The problem isn't me here - it's that your self loathing is so deep that you're determined to prove yourself to people like this and distance yourself from people like me who actually support people like you and fight for you in meaningful ways.

The minute you make a mis-step, you end up the target. The moment you stand up for yourself, you get torn down. I've been there, I've tried to fit into geek communities like you have and been a "good"/self loathing tranny. I've seen it happen to a lot of people.

Also, the fucking Irony of using a Gatchaman Crowds avatar for any number of reasons I don't feel like getting into.

Also, I've had to stay up trying to talk Chloe down when she's been genuinely suicidal. She's part of a group of trans women I try to look after. I've seen how bad she can get. As someone with plenty of my own issues, it was very hard to deal with others at times. So I think I have a right to be pissed off when people make that job a lot harder.

 

[ScarletJusticeWitch]

It was never ADF. ADF has already been confirmed. @Justice seems like some random loser on the internet that has way too much time and is not old enough to drink.

So they come here to get into fights with random strangers about Trannies. If they are being an ass and not telling us who they are, they are really not worth our time.

Back to the show - Topic Chloe and Rani - n' friends.

It is sad when the supposed cow is making fun of us and scoring a few points too. Good detective work by @Smutley on @ScarletJusticeWitch .

It appears they did admit who they were. Wetflame.

i lit did in another thread. and i'm not obliged to do that.

like i think it says something fucked up about your concept of boundaries and privacies when every potentially vulnerable target is expected to divulge to you.

again, the problem here is entitlement and the fact that you demand that people(like Chloe, Like Rani, like me) be targeted and abused by you. you are not entitled to me, to them, or anyone in that manner.

 

[Overchek]

Yo, I just saw this now.

First off, you're saying I don't define what you find offensive and how DARE that SJW tell ME what I FIND offensive this is the REAL OPPRESSION and the usual notyourshield bullshit, but... the problem is you're telling me I shouldn't find it offensive. I don't care what you do or don't find offensive, but the fact is that many trans people do. You can't just call everyone who is hurt by these remarks a "social justice warrior"and act like every cool trap acts like you do. There are any number of negative names for this trope, but you should know what I'm talking about. I don't represent every trans person, but you do so even less so than me. And I'm saying this is offensive on the basis of being trans - which it is. I'm not saying everyone will be offended. But that doesn't mean it's not transphobic.

A post before you agreed that Deadnaming was not a nice thing to do with someone. Then when I called someone out for it - saying they had no right to tell someone that they shouldn't be hurt for it because "words only have the power we give them"(which again, is bullshit, not a matter of opinion and we'd need to throw most of sociology out of the window for this to even work) you got all bothered about it.

I mean basically your purpose is to go "Hey, I'm trans. I don't find this offensive. Please continue doing this thing that almost every other trans person that isn't me finds hurtful."

This forum isn't just "anti-SJW", full on transphobic remarks, ungendering of trans women like Laverne Cox happens here and people criticising it are shot down. The problem isn't me here - it's that your self loathing is so deep that you're determined to prove yourself to people like this and distance yourself from people like me who actually support people like you and fight for you in meaningful ways.

The minute you make a mis-step, you end up the target. The moment you stand up for yourself, you get torn down. I've been there, I've tried to fit into geek communities like you have and been a "good"/self loathing tranny. I've seen it happen to a lot of people.

Also, the fucking Irony of using a Gatchaman Crowds avatar for any number of reasons I don't feel like getting into.

Also, I've had to stay up trying to talk Chloe down when she's been genuinely suicidal. She's part of a group of trans women I try to look after. I've seen how bad she can get. As someone with plenty of my own issues, it was very hard to deal with others at times. So I think I have a right to be pissed off when people make that job a lot harder.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

i lit did in another thread. and i'm not obliged to do that.

like i think it says something fucked up about your concept of boundaries and privacies when every potentially vulnerable target is expected to divulge to you.

Nobody asked you to. You were like, "hi, I'm Wetflame and I have an ED page." You don't get to open the barn door and then get mad because the cows got out.

 

[Overchek]

First:

I'm pretty sure plugging ears and going lalala is also an act commonly associated with children.

Now look at this:

The problem isn't me here - it's that your self loathing is so deep that you're determined to prove yourself to people like this and distance yourself from people like me who actually support people like you and fight for you in meaningful ways.

Second:

Not to mention anti-SJWs are the whiniest fucks since you will literally start entire campaigns on the back of moaning over someone other than you getting represented in a video game.

Now look at EVERYTHING THAT SJWS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, EVER.

You aren't very good at this, luv.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Like "whining" and "crying" seems to just apply to anyone criticising something in a way you don't want to hear.

I'm pretty sure plugging ears and going lalala is also an act commonly associated with children.

Not to mention anti-SJWs are the whiniest fucks since you will literally start entire campaigns on the back of moaning over someone other than you getting represented in a video game. Remember how mad people were over Rust "making" you play as a non-white person? Yeah...

No, no one actually remembers that because if it did happen, it happened to a very small percentage of both the Rust-playing community and gamers in general. Your arguments are like your mind state: flawed.

 

[Cuck Norris]

Like "whining" and "crying" seems to just apply to anyone criticising something in a way you don't want to hear.

I'm pretty sure plugging ears and going lalala is also an act commonly associated with children.

Not to mention anti-SJWs are the whiniest fucks since you will literally start entire campaigns on the back of moaning over someone other than you getting represented in a video game. Remember how mad people were over Rust "making" you play as a non-white person? Yeah...

Nice fedora, fucking mongoloid.

 

[XH 502]

Like "whining" and "crying" seems to just apply to anyone criticising something in a way you don't want to hear.

I'm pretty sure plugging ears and going lalala is also an act commonly associated with children.

Not to mention anti-SJWs are the whiniest fucks since you will literally start entire campaigns on the back of moaning over someone other than you getting represented in a video game. Remember how mad people were over Rust "making" you play as a non-white person? Yeah...

Honey, stop. I know you won't, but just stop.

In the same breath you just ridiculed us for referencing disagreeing parties as "whining" and then immediately calls us "whiniest fucks".

This is why you're a cow.

 

[sugoi-chan]

First off, you're saying I don't define what you find offensive and how DARE that SJW tell ME what I FIND offensive this is the REAL OPPRESSION and the usual notyourshield bullshit, but... the problem is you're telling me I shouldn't find it offensive.

I never said you shouldn't find it offensive. I just said that you don't get to define what other people find offensive. Reading comprehension, can you do it?

This forum isn't just "anti-SJW", full on transphobic remarks, ungendering of trans women like Laverne Cox happens here and people criticising it are shot down. The problem isn't me here - it's that your self loathing is so deep that you're determined to prove yourself to people like this and distance yourself from people like me who actually support people like you and fight for you in meaningful ways.

My self-loathing? I'm desperate to prove myself to the Farms? Please, please, please continue to speak for me oh mighty Social Justice Witch. Please tell me about the things that I'm feeling. Really, I want to hear all about what I'm feeling from an expert like yourself. Use more Psychology 101 while you do it.

(For the record, me telling you that I was trans and then the rest of what I said was solely in reply to your silly statement of

Are you trans? If not, you really don't get a say on it. You don't have any experience into how this can affect someone.

It had nothing to do with @Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.'s post.)

EDIT - Oh, and the Laverne Cox thread set off a rather fascinating (and occasionally heated discussion) on misgendering and such within this community's chat and other boards. You'd know this if you lurked and got to know us a little bit. But no, continue to accuse us all of being transphobic fucks so you can inhale that oppressahol.

 

[AnOminous]

Yo, I just saw this now.

First off, you're saying I don't define what you find offensive and how DARE that SJW tell ME what I FIND offensive this is the REAL OPPRESSION and the usual notyourshield bullshit, but... the problem is you're telling me I shouldn't find it offensive.

See, this is why it's pointless even to bother "arguing" with you and why people are just going to laugh and point instead. First you say nobody can even have an opinion about your bullshit unless they're trans. But if they ARE trans, then it's "notyourshield bullshit." So basically, literally fucking nobody is entitled to have any opinion but the one you're trying to force.

You see nothing wrong with this ludicrous logical lacuna.

Frankly, fuck that and fuck you. And fuck your pronouns while I'm at it.

 

[Trombonista]

I'm bored. Has Chloe threatened pseuicide again lately?

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Also, I've had to stay up trying to talk Chloe down when she's been genuinely suicidal. She's part of a group of trans women I try to look after. I've seen how bad she can get. As someone with plenty of my own issues, it was very hard to deal with others at times. So I think I have a right to be pissed off when people make that job a lot harder.

See, you just keep dropping this shit, as though it fucking matters. Chloe is going to threaten suicide her entire life, because it get's her what she wants. Our involvement won't change that. So as I said before, and really listen this time:
Why should your imagined suffering matter to me? I don't know you, it's not my job to save you, and I don't give a fuck. Your attempt to extort sympathy by listing personal grievances has failed, so what else have you got?

 

[ScarletJusticeWitch]

I never said you shouldn't find it offensive. I just said that you don't get to define what other people find offensive. Reading comprehension, can you do it?



My self-loathing? I'm desperate to prove myself to the Farms? Please, please, please continue to speak for me oh mighty Social Justice Witch. Please tell me about the things that I'm feeling. Really, I want to hear all about what I'm feeling from an expert like yourself. Use more Psychology 101 while you do it.

(For the record, me telling you that I was trans and then the rest of what I said was solely in reply to your silly statement of


It had nothing to do with @Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.'s post.)

EDIT - Oh, and the Laverne Cox thread set off a rather fascinating (and occasionally heated discussion) on misgendering and such within this community's chat and other boards. You'd know this if you lurked and got to know us a little bit. But no, continue to accuse us all of being transphobic fucks so you can inhale that oppressahol.

Um, i've lit had people make transphobic remarks and ungender me since I've been here.

It's not fucking 'Fascinating'. It's abusive.

What you do here is make fun of the idea of oppression. Do you seriously think trans women aren't oppressed? I don't know what kind of experience you've had. I'm white and in a first world country(ish, that term has lost meaning these days somewhat) but even I have had to put up with serious shit, much of which I don't like to talk about publicly. You're taking a shit on a lot of people with the way you talk, and demanding they be polite to you(and others) about it. You're constantly poking at people who have lived fucked up lives due to their position in society. You rally against SJWs as the great evil - a group containing heavily persecuted groups - while people deadnaming Laverne Cox and making comments about Degenerate Trannies are just facilitators for fascinating discussion. If you can't see how warped this standard is, you need to take a step the fuck back.

I've also been involved in Geek communities for neigh on 20 years and trans communities for about 10. Honey, I know how to call an Auntie Tam when I see one.

See, you just keep dropping this shit, as though it fucking matters. Chloe is going to threaten suicide her entire life, because it get's her what she wants. Our involvement won't change that. So as I said before, and really listen this time:
Why should your imagined suffering matter to me? I don't know you, it's not my job to save you, and I don't give a fuck. Your attempt to extort sympathy by listing personal grievances has failed, so what else have you got?

I've been where Chloe is and I know what it's like. I've also seen some of the shit she's had to put up with.

I'm sorry for having Empathy.

See, this is why it's pointless even to bother "arguing" with you and why people are just going to laugh and point instead. First you say nobody can even have an opinion about your bullshit unless they're trans. But if they ARE trans, then it's "notyourshield bullshit." So basically, literally fucking nobody is entitled to have any opinion but the one you're trying to force.

You see nothing wrong with this ludicrous logical lacuna.

Frankly, fuck that and fuck you. And fuck your pronouns while I'm at it.

Wow it's almost like there's never an appropriate time when someone should try to mock and erase the struggles of others.

Funny, that.

"Don't mock a pain you haven't endured."

This goes to other trans women too, since we don't all have the same experience.

You're being shit, and she's being shit. But for slightly different reasons.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

I've been where Chloe is and I know what it's like. I've also seen some of the shit she's had to put up with.

I'm sorry for having Empathy.

Does this look like the place to seek fucking empathy to you?

Um, i've lit had people make transphobic remarks and ungender me since I've been here.

It's not fucking 'Fascinating'. It's abusive.

What you do here is make fun of the idea of oppression. Do you seriously think trans women aren't oppressed? I don't know what kind of experience you've had. I'm white and in a first world country(ish, that term has lost meaning these days somewhat) but even I have had to put up with serious shit, much of which I don't like to talk about publicly. You're taking a shit on a lot of people with the way you talk, and demanding they be polite to you(and others) about it. You're constantly poking at people who have lived fucked up lives due to their position in society. You rally against SJWs as the great evil - a group containing heavily persecuted groups - while people deadnaming Laverne Cox and making comments about Degenerate Trannies are just facilitators for fascinating discussion. If you can't see how warped this standard is, you need to take a step the fuck back.

I've also been involved in Geek communities for neigh on 20 years and trans communities for about 10. Honey, I know how to call an Auntie Tam when I see one.

What we do here is make fun of lolcows like you. You can shame and belittle @sugoi-chan all fucking day, but ultimately, the fact that they don't have an internalized victim complex is not something to be ashamed of. You don't see us "deadnaming" or attacking them, because they don't act like an asshole. It's that whole "you get respect when you're worth respecting" thing you SJW's have so much trouble with.

 

[sugoi-chan]

Um, i've lit had people make transphobic remarks and ungender me since I've been here.

It's not fucking 'Fascinating'. It's abusive.

It's almost like this is a community of people, all with different perspectives and viewpoints. If you had done as I suggested and lurked a bit, you would've noticed that there were a lot of outright transphobic people and a lot of people super positive about trans people and everywhere in between. Please get off the internet and learn how real communities of people work.

(God, words on the internet. So horrible.)

What you do here is make fun of the idea of oppression.

Big talk from someone who admits to mocking CWC himself.

I've also been involved in Geek communities for neigh on 20 years and trans communities for about 10. Honey, I know how to call an Auntie Tam when I see one.

If a rancid, freedom of speech hating whiner is calling me a "Auntie Tam" for having an opinion that isn't theirs, then that's a badge I'll wear with pride. Enjoy your ban. Come back once you've learned how to interact with other human beings and not labels.

 

[deadson]

Um, i've lit had people make transphobic remarks and ungender me since I've been here.

It's not fucking 'Fascinating'. It's abusive.

What you do here is make fun of the idea of oppression. Do you seriously think trans women aren't oppressed? I don't know what kind of experience you've had. I'm white and in a first world country(ish, that term has lost meaning these days somewhat) but even I have had to put up with serious shit, much of which I don't like to talk about publicly. You're taking a shit on a lot of people with the way you talk, and demanding they be polite to you(and others) about it. You're constantly poking at people who have lived fucked up lives due to their position in society. You rally against SJWs as the great evil - a group containing heavily persecuted groups - while people deadnaming Laverne Cox and making comments about Degenerate Trannies are just facilitators for fascinating discussion. If you can't see how warped this standard is, you need to take a step the fuck back.

I've also been involved in Geek communities for neigh on 20 years and trans communities for about 10. Honey, I know how to call an Auntie Tam when I see one.

You've been here for ONE day. Since I've seen you you've done nothing to prove your point. You've essentially been preaching tumblr-like fire and brimstone bullshit that frankly needs to stay on tumblr.

 

[Cynical]

I just looked up Wetflame.......wow, maybe there really is a tranny singularity drawing all of these lunatics together into an incestuous circlejerk of tardraging.

 

[deadson]

I just looked up Wetflame.......wow, maybe there really is a tranny singularity drawing all of these lunatics together into an incestuous circlejerk of tardraging.

Oh good, more cowing to milk.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

I just looked up Wetflame.......wow, maybe there really is a tranny singularity drawing all of these lunatics together into an incestuous circlejerk of tardraging.

That singularity is called Tumblr.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Enough troll-shielding. Just give Wetflame its own topic and be done with it already. As funny as this has been, this topic has enough crazy trannies fighting for attention in it already.