2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Were some of the mask showing political leanings (MAGA or Biden-Harris? Because either the Democrats in your area are just bumrushing to early vote or something's really up.
No political logos. That's illegal in polling places in my state anyway (and more others, right?)
Early voting is in the courthouse where masks are officially required, but it's the kind of town that even the regular staff weren't wearing masks though they were required, just the election staff. People just scared of getting kicked out/trying to avoid a hassle?
 
I just had a weird thought. What if enough electoral college voters dissent change their votes for the losing opponent? The crime is a $2000 fine to vote against the way the majority of the state voted. There were a number of them across multiple states in 2016 (mostly protest votes for people who didn't even run that year), but I could foresee enough bitterness, plus accusations of fraud from both sides that electors flip.
 
It was a golden era. I don't even think the censorship is largely at fault for the lack of content this time around, it's more to do with the fact that the people who made those memes just aren't as energetic this time around.


Jeb! Was the president that would lead humanity to a golden age. But Clinton, knowing of his immense power, used her black magic to change the votes against him. What she didn't know was Trump was our dark avenger, the president we didn't want, but deserved. The rage of the workers given human form. And he would make them ALL pay!

I'm laughing so hard at that vid, can't tell if it's because I haven't gone to sleep yet

That's just Jeb!'s overwhelming energy reaching you through the screen now that the witch's spell can't block it anymore!

There's no-one with the mocking energy of Jeb! In this election. There was too many democrats that each had their own memes, and the two they've gone with had the least fun and original memes of any of them.

Ok, laying off the sarcasm for a moment. Jeb! Was low energy as fuck, but at least he was endearing, his turtle comparison was kinda cute, he was a very nice and agreeable person, and I mean yeah he was blander than a glass of water but I dunno he was kinda perfect meme fodder in a way, honestly had TRUMP not been in the race I could see him winning due to the wojack memes, if anything, no one really had anything against him other than the sheer depth of his lack of character.

But now? I mean fuck me if Jeb! Was the human personification of copyright free lo-fi background music the entire DNC this time arround is just that fucking WUUUUB WUUUUUB track films use to represent opressive silence after a concussion deafens the main character. Not only do they have no energy, but they also suuuuuuuuck.

I mean ffs Obama almost looked like a more arrogant version of Jeb! Stripped of all goodwill on the one rally he was on, and Biden needs to take SPEED just to wake up and still keeps slurring every other word. Not to mention Harris, who they've thrown in a closet and trashed the key in hopes no one will see her long enough to go vote republican because she exhudes an aura of pure evil around her.

The entire party is just Jeb without any of what made him endearing. It is incredible. It's not even good meme fodder, because good memes have at least a small degree of compassion. Even DSP kinda gives off a small bit of a warm fuzzy feeling after enough TIHYDPs, but these guys?! The biggest memes they got are Creepy Joe groping kids and his incestuous pedofile of a son hitting meth. Fuck, at least hunter's photos are semi-endearing due to the doomer memes, but joe doesn't even have that, he's just hunter without the self awareness. THINK ABOUT THAT. THE GUY THAT SOLD AMERICA IN EXCHANGE FOR UNDERAGE SNUFF AND GOT CAUGHT DUE TO A FUCKING 85$ FINE IS THE LESS HATEABLE OF THE TWO.

How can you even meme this shit? It's disgusting! Fuck, Pence's Heidi poster is the best meme this season! How is that a fucking thing?!

2016 was a special year

The days before the thread of fate was severed and the timeline was doomed. If only they hadn't shot Harambe...
 
My husband watched the debate today.

The moments that stood out for him:

-"Dark Winter"
-"We had a Republican Congress ... That's the answer."
-"I will transition from the oil industry."
-"I don't see this country as Red States and Blue States ... Now let me explain why the Red States are responsible for the COVID spikes."

Guess which candidate came out as the big loser of the debate for him? lol.

I have awarded you the coveted Semper Fidelis sticky for this post on the condition that you share half of it with your husband,

That was possibly one of the best parts of the debate.


Politico, which is pretty left-leaning IIRC, clearly thinks it's a problem

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/biden-oil-pennsylvania-texas-432043
https://archive.vn/jgPSl

PHILADELPHIA — Joe Biden’s plan to move to a clean energy economy isn't new to those who've been paying attention: For months, he's promised to put the country on a path to be carbon-neutral by 2050.

But Biden, who's been extraordinarily cautious throughout the campaign while talking about fossil fuels, clearly believes he botched his own strategy on Thursday night.

Within minutes of the debate, where he said he wanted to transition away from the oil industry, Biden walked back his remarks with reporters. On Friday, his running mate Kamala Harris reaffirmed the ticket’s support for fracking. And two members of Congress from oil- and gas-rich areas immediately distanced themselves from the Democratic nominee.

So with only 11 days to go until the election, Biden and other Democrats are doing clean-up duty at precisely the wrong time.

You could see from Trump's face he knew it was a gaffe as soon as it came out. It's probably more significant than the corruption stuff because Biden being a corrupt Democrat is hardly a secret and it's probably priced in. Actually, the corporate Democrat part of that is something Trump alluded to a fair bit. It's difficult though because you want to portray his as too far left while at the same time pointing out to his left-wing supporters he's no Bernie Sanders.

Double Pennsylvania Monday:
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PA was definitely winnable given the early voting figures and Biden's oil gaffe makes it slightly more likely. I think his gun control position is damaging in the rust belt but for some reason, the GOP seems not to have pushed that as much as I'd like them to. Trump can bring it up at rallies but there he's talking to people who are already going to vote for him and the media won't let anyone else know what he said.

I'm still concerned that the polls are right and Biden ends up winning, to be honest.
 
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Jeb! Was the president that would lead humanity to a golden age. But Clinton, knowing of his immense power, used her black magic to change the votes against him. What she didn't know was Trump was our dark avenger, the president we didn't want, but deserved. The rage of the workers given human form. And he would make them ALL pay!

Having an election with Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton sounds too much like leftovers left in the fridge to my eyes. Thank goodness we got Trump!
 
I just had a weird thought. What if enough electoral college voters dissent change their votes for the losing opponent? The crime is a $2000 fine to vote against the way the majority of the state voted. There were a number of them across multiple states in 2016 (mostly protest votes for people who didn't even run that year), but I could foresee enough bitterness, plus accusations of fraud from both sides that electors flip.

Never happen. Electors are usually specifically chosen because they're loyal to the candidate they're supposed to vote for. Faithless electors only change their vote in protest when the outcome isn't in doubt and what they're doing won't effect the outcome.

Nobody wants to be THAT GUY that effectively invalidated the votes of everyone that voted for the winner by flipping the EC so the loser actually wins. And the election would need to be so close in the EC it would take only one or a few, but even then the pressure to vote the way you're supposed to actually increases.

Short of the candidate dropping dead before the EC meets, your scenario isn't plausible.
 
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I have awarded you the coveted Semper Fidelis sticky for this post on the condition that you share half of it with your husband,



Politico, which is pretty left-leaning IIRC, clearly thinks it's a problem

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/biden-oil-pennsylvania-texas-432043
https://archive.vn/jgPSl



You could see from Trump's face he knew it was a gaffe as soon as it came out. It's probably more significant than the corruption stuff because Biden being a corrupt Democrat is hardly a secret and it's probably priced in. Actually, the corporate Democrat part of that is something Trump alluded to a fair bit. It's difficult though because you want to portray his as too far left while at the same time pointing out to his left-wing supporters he's no Bernie Sanders.



PA was definitely winnable given the early voting figures and Biden's oil gaffe makes it slightly more likely. I think his gun control position is damaging in the rust belt but for some reason, the GOP seems not to have pushed that as much as I'd like them to. Trump can bring it up at rallies but there he's talking to people who are already going to vote for him and the media won't let anyone else know what he said.

I'm still concerned that the polls are right and Biden ends up winning, to be honest.
I disagree. I honestly think Trump will wind up winning the election. After his performance on Thursday it seems Biden is rattled by what said to him on Thursday. And he seems confident in winning the election.
 
Strange map. Most areas got redder, yet some light reds went blue. What kinda shit is that?
The suburbs within commuting distance of cities are getting bluer as cities get more expensive and millennials are finally able to afford the homes they should have been buying 10 years ago but got fucked by the Bush Recession. I have family in a neighborhood like this. Red area, for years after the Recession no kids in the streets and no young families then all of a sudden over the past 6 years it seems like every old couple moved out and some 30 something couple with kids moved in. Their district flipped blue in 2016 and it's not going back.
 
Pretty sure North Carolina has had the same thing for a long time and it has stayed red, so :optimistic: .
Yeah because registered to vote =/= will vote.

See the problem with the left (and honestly much of the social "sciences" tbh) is that they operate on conspiracy-theory logic.
Instead of looking at the data and building a theory around the data, then tweaking their theory to work with new data; they just find a way to make the data fit their theory. In this case, they all believe that Voter Suppression is a real issue therefore now that all those people CAN vote, they WILL vote, and will totally vote for democrats.
The fact minorities maybe don't care to vote and/or dont like either party is incomprehensible to them.
I just had a weird thought. What if enough electoral college voters dissent change their votes for the losing opponent? The crime is a $2000 fine to vote against the way the majority of the state voted. There were a number of them across multiple states in 2016 (mostly protest votes for people who didn't even run that year), but I could foresee enough bitterness, plus accusations of fraud from both sides that electors flip.
IMO that's my biggest issue with the electoral college: the actual electors themselves.

We should have something to protect the Union/Republic and prevent us from functionally operating as a Hunger Games-style unitary Nation-State; but the idea that some party official local swamp-creature can just flip their vote and quite honestly eat the fine is pretty concerning.
 
In the words of Bill Clinton ''It's the economy, stupid!''
Voters don't really care about corruption. Every politician in DC has some kind of money laundering operation on the side. We ought to care about this stuff but politics is so divided that voters are willing to let it slide.
But abolishing oil? Now you're putting a tangible, serious guillotine on the board. Your job, your family's jobs, and countless others in your community dependent on such adjacent industries (or hell, the income from people employed there) is in deadly danger by voting Joe in... and all Trump has to do is point at Joe's bragging, say ''I'm not him'' and recite some talking points about his yuge economy he's been making for 4 years.

It's kinda hilarious the October surprise and assorted character defects weren't really landing with Joe. It took being tone deaf enough to promise further lockdowns and abolishing oil to kill him-- the media CANNOT spin either away for him.
 
Well, it's a good God Damn thing that George Soros does not have the money to cover any fine that would pop up... oh, wait.

It's not just the fine. There's enormous pressure from inside the Parties to NOT do that. And since Electors are party loyalists, they don't want to cut their own throat. They'll forgive you voting for Mickey Mouse when it doesn't effect the outcome, But anything like that won't be tolerated in a super-close EC race (like 2000). It's a career-ender for anyone who does it, and it'd be really tough to get a Trojan Horse in that position who would actually go through with it. And you'd actually need more than one, because 269-269 is incredibly unlikely in the first place.
 
It's kinda hilarious the October surprise and assorted character defects weren't really landing with Joe. It took being tone deaf enough to promise further lockdowns and abolishing oil to kill him-- the media CANNOT spin either away for him.

Biden was always a weak candidate. He's not far left enough to get the Bernie bros out but his stances on guns, oil, and lockdowns are all too globalist to appeal to the rust belt voters the DNC presumably thought he needed to win back. He's an old, white, straight man in a party that is obsessed with the idea that it needs to mobilize a rainbow LGBTWTFBBQ/women/brown people coalition.

It's also remarkable they've got someone who is worse at rhetoric than Trump is. He's more corrupt too. I can see why they didn't want Bernie or Tulsi - too much risk to the policy of endless war and shafting the working class they're all so committed to. Still, you have to wonder why they'd run Biden after Hillary failed.

Of course, if he wins and grants amnesties to 22 million illegals, statehood, and more importantly Senate seats, to the reliably blue DC and Puerto Rico then it's all over for the GOP. At that point, if you're in a Red state you might as well secede because the Republicans will never win again on anything resembling Trump's platform. The GOP will move left and the Democrats will move even further left. There will never be anything like a right-wing President or majority in either house.

It does kind of worry me, to be honest, that I'm so anti-Labour/the Democrats that in a First Past The Post electoral system I basically have to vote Conservative/Republican. Of course, that means that if those parties tack left there's nowhere for me to go, so I can't do anything to stop it. In the UK there's sort of a bodge to stop that - UKIP/the Brexit Party and the Reform Party all run to the right of the Conservatives, not so much to win but to drag the Conservatives back to the right to avoid being outflanked. Maybe something similar should be set up in the US.

Farage was canny enough to essentially pull the plugs on the Brexit Party when it looked like they might actually cost the Conservatives an election that mattered by forcing candidates to stand down. I'd recommend something like that to any US Populist third party. I found out pretty recently that the US actually had a populist party called the People's Party. I suppose you could say the Tea Party was something like it except it was never actually a party.
 
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