Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

Styxhexenhammer666 is a maniac totally infested with Trump manic mania from Mars. He goes to the decadent and depraved Kentucky derby to tout his tooter for Trump.
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bugbear said:
Seriously? Do people genuinely like him just because he "triggers the libs"? They are aware that the rest of the world thinks he is a clown, and that America is his circus? My goddamn, backwater, backwards, pseudo-dictatorship of a country thinks the US is a joke, can't imagine what the rest of the world thinks.
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Not to add that it you say this to most Trump supporters that the world thinks he's a fucking ass, they'll pull and over exaggerate any statistic to try and prove to you how untrue that is.
 
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There really has not been anything close to the cult of personality that Trump has. People waving his flags, having their own rallies and parades for him, swearing undying loyalty no matter WHAT he does or says. It's insanity.

Obama might have been second to this, but a DISTANT second. Also, for Obama it was less about the man and more about what he represented. Regardless of how you feel about him, it's a big deal that we had our first black president, and that was the big deal for him, more than the man himself. Trump, there is zero reason for him to have the kind of devotion he does, and his most ardent supporters just show what absolute mongoloids they are. I've said many times, if you wanna support Trump then fine. But don't make up this Christ-like saviour fanfiction. He's a liar, cheat, adulterer, tax and draft dodger and he ran with Jeffrey Epstein. If you support that, that's fine. But stop pretending he's a saint.
 
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JaneThough said:
There really has not been anything close to the cult of personality that Trump has. People waving his flags, having their own rallies and parades for him, swearing undying loyalty no matter WHAT he does or says. It's insanity.

Obama might have been second to this, but a DISTANT second. Also, for Obama it was less about the man and more about what he represented. Regardless of how you feel about him, it's a big deal that we had our first black president, and that was the big deal for him, more than the man himself. Trump, there is zero reason for him to have the kind of devotion he does, and his most ardent supporters just show what absolute mongoloids they are. I've said many times, if you wanna support Trump then fine. But don't make up this Christ-like saviour fanfiction. He's a liar, cheat, adulterer, tax and draft dodger and he ran with Jeffrey Epstein. If you support that, that's fine. But stop pretending he's a saint.
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There were definitely people who went overboard for Obama as a person, especially on left-leaning websites, but nothing like we see with Trump. Even in my decadent coastal enclave I never saw people turning their homes and yards into Obama shrines, or doing crazy shit with their cars like you see on r/InfowarriorRides (this happened to be the top post there when I checked just now). The MAGA people make Trump a part of their identity in a way Obama's biggest fans never did.

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bugbear said:
I don't know much about American politics, and I don't know if this was the case with other presidents, but there seems to be a cult of personality surrounding Trump. I don't remember ever seeing Americans get so obsessed with any politician before Trump. Did Obama and Clinton have such a large following? I don't remember the political divide being quite as large as it currently is either. It just feels like I am watching a country which will tear itself apart.
Also, what is the relationship between USA and the rest of the world currently? In my small friend circle, you people are seen as a laughingstock. I can't help but fear that I am watching a fall of a superpower.
I seriously don't see what the appeal of Trump is, he says a lot of dumb shit, makes a fool out of himself and his country constantly, and people somehow eat it up.
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Obama had a following which even the Onion joked about but Clinton and Bush didn’t. A lot of the die hard Obama fans became Bernie bros. It’s probably due to the rise of social media.

It does make us a laughingstock but if the US Republic falls it’ll most likely be replaced by a dictatorship a la Roman Republic. The Roman Empire developed a cult of personality around the Emperors and I suspect the Bernie Bros and Trump fanboys are a precursor of what is to come.
 
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Norman B. Normal said:
There were definitely people who went overboard for Obama as a person, especially on left-leaning websites, but nothing like we see with Trump. Even in my decadent coastal enclave I never saw people turning their homes and yards into Obama shrines, or doing crazy shit with their cars like you see on r/InfowarriorRides (this happened to be the top post there when I checked just now). The MAGA people make Trump a part of their identity in a way Obama's biggest fans never did.

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And just think, that guy probably doesn't wear a mask because he thinks it makes him look stupid
 
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JaneThough said:
"IF it happens"? Trumpers seem to be a bit less confident this time around.
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Is it really that surprising? Trump was the populist candidate back in 2016, appealing to people who then were tired of the status quo. You couple that with the treatment of Bernie Sanders in 2016 and how horrible Hillary Clinton was as a candidate and it isn't a shock that Trump won unless you're completely in that left-wing bubble. Four years later and it's obvious that the fervor is gone. Joe Biden, while not a great candidate by any real stretch, isn't nearly as divisive as Clintion was. Trump's handling of COVID has been bad and his baffling decision to not send out stimulus checks while he's trying to win the ultimate popular contest speaks for itself. I also don't believe either candidate has made a strong case for undecided voters; Trump supporters are gonna stay on the train and the rest are reluctantly voting for Joe Biden (even with the Shitty VP pick).
 
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Is it really that surprising? Trump was the populist candidate back in 2016, appealing to people who then were tired of the status quo. You couple that with the treatment of Bernie Sanders in 2016 and how horrible Hillary Clinton was as a candidate and it isn't a shock that Trump won unless you're completely in that left-wing bubble. Four years later and it's obvious that the fervor is gone. Joe Biden, while not a great candidate by any real stretch, isn't nearly as divisive as Clintion was. Trump's handling of COVID has been bad and his baffling decision to not send out stimulus checks while he's trying to win the ultimate popular contest speaks for itself. I also don't believe either candidate has made a strong case for undecided voters; Trump supporters are gonna stay on the train and the rest are reluctantly voting for Joe Biden (even with the Shitty VP pick).
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Imo it could go either way. I think Trump has a slight edge (I’d give him 55% odds) since he’s running for re-election and is defending the presidency, but with Covid and this year being such an anomaly just about anything could happen.

In 2016 I felt most possible Democratic candidates such as Biden could’ve beaten Trump, and that Hillary could’ve too if she took him more seriously. Hillary was the worst candidate to put against Trump because she was so hated by the left and right, and she was taking the Presidency for granted. She also isn’t as energetic so she’s more vulnerable to populists. Biden may not have any fans but he isn’t as disliked as Hillary by progressives with the exception of Jimmy Dore.

Regardless of if Trump wins re-election or not, Hillary deserves a lot of credit for the rise of Donald Trump. She wanted Trump to win because she thought it would make it easier for her to get the presidency, in part because of her unpopularity. It reminded me of how the Germans released Lenin back to Russia, or how the US worked with Bin Laden to fight the USSR: The enemy of your enemy isn’t necessarily your friend. Trump may have won without her gay op but it really blew up in her face. I hope she’s remembered for that.
 
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Higgins said:
Is it really that surprising? Trump was the populist candidate back in 2016, appealing to people who then were tired of the status quo. You couple that with the treatment of Bernie Sanders in 2016 and how horrible Hillary Clinton was as a candidate and it isn't a shock that Trump won unless you're completely in that left-wing bubble. Four years later and it's obvious that the fervor is gone. Joe Biden, while not a great candidate by any real stretch, isn't nearly as divisive as Clintion was. Trump's handling of COVID has been bad and his baffling decision to not send out stimulus checks while he's trying to win the ultimate popular contest speaks for itself. I also don't believe either candidate has made a strong case for undecided voters; Trump supporters are gonna stay on the train and the rest are reluctantly voting for Joe Biden (even with the Shitty VP pick).
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Also remember that Trump lost the popular vote by Millions and still won, which was a HUGE wake-up call for people in terms of voting for their representatives in primaries. The US saw record turn-out for all sorts of smaller scale and local elections and states that have been red for decades have been flipped blue. The electoral college was pretty obviously stacked in trumps favor in 2016 but it very much is not this time around. I’m still 50/50 but it’s sure as shit not going to be this “landslide” victory his cultists keep insisting it will be even if he does win, and all that’s going to do is radicalize more people. If Texas is a blue state now as people are claiming, it doesn’t bode well for Trump.
 
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Lou’s Biggest Fan said:
If Texas is a blue state now as people are claiming, it doesn’t bode well for Trump.
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I feel it'll say something with my state, Indiana. It's been really, really strong red since the late 60's, with the exception of 1964 and 2008. Trump won by double digits here, and I expect him to win Indiana again but by quite less of a margin than he did in 2016.

A lot of solid red states will go closer and closer to blue, if anything.
 
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Lou’s Biggest Fan said:
Also remember that Trump lost the popular vote by Millions and still won, which was a HUGE wake-up call for people in terms of voting for their representatives in primaries. The US saw record turn-out for all sorts of smaller scale and local elections and states that have been red for decades have been flipped blue. The electoral college was pretty obviously stacked in trumps favor in 2016 but it very much is not this time around. I’m still 50/50 but it’s sure as shit not going to be this “landslide” victory his cultists keep insisting it will be even if he does win, and all that’s going to do is radicalize more people. If Texas is a blue state now as people are claiming, it doesn’t bode well for Trump.
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If he loses Texas he’s toast. I don’t think that’ll happen and I doubt there’ll be a landslide either way. It could happen if enough people moved there from the West coast but I doubt it.

Imo he’ll get more popular votes this time, not saying he’ll win the popular vote but I expect him to get more, as the libertarian party isn’t doing as well this election. Part of what happened with 2016 is both candidates were unpopular and the libertarians managed to capitalize on the never Trump Republicans.
 
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