Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[booklover]

That doesn’t surprise me, actually. There’s a known link between premature birth and neurodivergence (autism, ADHD etc) although it’s only been recognised over the last couple of decades. It wouldn’t surprise me if this woman was autistic and gifted (aka twice exceptional - this has a different meaning on the Farms, I know).

She was not autistic, I can guarantee that.

 

[Welpthereitis]

I was browsing netflix today and this new film immediately made me think of Luna.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theweek.in/wire-updates/entertainment/2020/10/18/ent10-rooting-for-roona-filmmakers.amp.html

 

[GenociderSyo]

I was browsing netflix today and this new film immediately made me think of Luna.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theweek.in/wire-updates/entertainment/2020/10/18/ent10-rooting-for-roona-filmmakers.amp.html

Did not know they actually made a documentary about Roona beyond the small one I'd seen. Difference is thats just a child who came from a family unable to understand/afford treatment. The child before she died did live a quality of life beyond a potato once the fluid was drained and she had a shunt.

 

[MysticMisty]

When I lived in my old town, I knew a woman who was the head of the local Mensa chapter who I thought at the time was a polio survivor, due to her age and the fact that she wore leg braces. I found out later that she was born very prematurely (and raised by adoptive parents) and actually had cerebral palsy and a seizure disorder, and on top of it had a law degree with a master's in city planning. She said that her doctors couldn't figure out how she could function.

CP is a crapshoot because some forms don't cause retardation, but most do to various extents. And there's no way to know if the damage is there until long after the baby is born. Most families aren't nearly as lucky as this woman is.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

Noted photographer Heji Shin did a series of photos of babies crowning during birth. She blew them up into huge photographs for an exhibit. She wanted to capture the brutality and truth of birth, how it really looks. In order to get women to agree to her capturing the crowning she agreed to also do the standard “pretty birth diaper commercial” photos for them.

Women, for the most part reacted very negatively to the crowning photos that captured the unvarnished reality of birth, it was men who were impressed by them. Men liked the photos. They appreciated the painful, bloody, difficult, gory side of birth being shown - many said they felt they could relate to these photos as they captured the painful and brutal reality of what it takes to create something or someone new. They could respect this version of birth because it’s the truth.

The soft focus diaper commercial stuff rings hollow because it is false and inaccurate.

I don't understand why some women want a beautiful, soft focus, hair & make-up done representation of birth. It's not a pretty or peaceful process. It isn't easy, why make it look easy? I'm not say have a huge black and white photo for your child crowning out of your vagina over your fireplace, but the gross, bloody, painful side is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed by. I haven't had children myself, but I applaud any woman who has, no matter how it was done.

Slightly off-topic, but seeing a woman give birth in a real way (not the soft focus diaper commercial way) is the best birth control for a young girl, I think. When I was 14, my mom made me watch my aunt have my cousin. If the epidural didn't convince me to take sex and protection seriously (I hate needles), then watching the crowning sure did. Not to mention realizing you poop in front of everyone most of the time. As an adult, I'm like "Eh, you poop having a baby, so what?" but 14 year old Blonde was mortified.

 

[booklover]

TLC, in their pre-Honey Boo Boo days, used to have a series called "The Operation", IIRC in the mid 1990s. One of the surgeries they featured was a cesarean section. THAT was definitely something every 12-year-old needed to watch. The part that freaked ME out the most, because I didn't know they did this, was

Spoiler

After they remove the baby and placenta, they pull the uterus, which is now about the size of a cantaloupe, out ("exteriorize it") and wipe it clean and make sure no placental lobes or blood clots remain, and then sew it up

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Neither my sister nor I ever had children of our own, but our mother, upon hearing that lots of women ask their mothers to be there at the birth, told us, "If you ever have one, DON'T EVEN ASK. I did that 3 times and I know what that looks like." My brother did have 2 kids, and she came by later to help with them.

 

[Freya]

welp the papist handmaiden was confirmed.

get ready for more 13 year old rape victims birthing tard babies than you'll know what to do with

 

[latter day taint]

TLC, in their pre-Honey Boo Boo days, used to have a series called "The Operation", IIRC in the mid 1990s. One of the surgeries they featured was a cesarean section. THAT was definitely something every 12-year-old needed to watch. The part that freaked ME out the most, because I didn't know they did this, was

Spoiler

After they remove the baby and placenta, they pull the uterus, which is now about the size of a cantaloupe, out ("exteriorize it") and wipe it clean and make sure no placental lobes or blood clots remain, and then sew it up

.

Neither my sister nor I ever had children of our own, but our mother, upon hearing that lots of women ask their mothers to be there at the birth, told us, "If you ever have one, DON'T EVEN ASK. I did that 3 times and I know what that looks like." My brother did have 2 kids, and she came by later to help with them.

We watched that in 10th grade biology.

They also used to have a show called A Birth Story? Something like that. It showed the reality of labor and delivery

 

[ZapThePickle]

welp the papist handmaiden was confirmed.

get ready for more 13 year old rape victims birthing tard babies than you'll know what to do with

Oh in the next few years tard babies will become abundant....not sure if thats a good or bad thing


I guess good for us, bad for the parents/government they burden....


Maybe the strain on the government gibs will become too much and they will go on to offee free abortions and birth control for everyone!

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

TLC, in their pre-Honey Boo Boo days, used to have a series called "The Operation", IIRC in the mid 1990s. One of the surgeries they featured was a cesarean section. THAT was definitely something every 12-year-old needed to watch. The part that freaked ME out the most, because I didn't know they did this, was

Spoiler

After they remove the baby and placenta, they pull the uterus, which is now about the size of a cantaloupe, out ("exteriorize it") and wipe it clean and make sure no placental lobes or blood clots remain, and then sew it up

.

Neither my sister nor I ever had children of our own, but our mother, upon hearing that lots of women ask their mothers to be there at the birth, told us, "If you ever have one, DON'T EVEN ASK. I did that 3 times and I know what that looks like." My brother did have 2 kids, and she came by later to help with them.

I remember that episode specifically because I was about the same age and never considered the layers of fat between the skin and the muscles and organs, and it grossed me out. TLC should have stayed that kind of channel.

edit: typo

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I don't understand why some women want a beautiful, soft focus, hair & make-up done representation of birth. It's not a pretty or peaceful process. It isn't easy, why make it look easy? I'm not say have a huge black and white photo for your child crowning out of your vagina over your fireplace, but the gross, bloody, painful side is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed by. I haven't had children myself, but I applaud any woman who has, no matter how it was done.

Slightly off-topic, but seeing a woman give birth in a real way (not the soft focus diaper commercial way) is the best birth control for a young girl, I think. When I was 14, my mom made me watch my aunt have my cousin. If the epidural didn't convince me to take sex and protection seriously (I hate needles), then watching the crowning sure did. Not to mention realizing you poop in front of everyone most of the time. As an adult, I'm like "Eh, you poop having a baby, so what?" but 14 year old Blonde was mortified.

Making adolescents babysit infants is the best birth control. Birth is one day, few hours...but caring for an infant is 24/7/365.

Most women I know who spent ages of 10-16 earning their money as babysitters for kids under 3 years, either paid or having to care for younger siblings, waited till close to 30 or over to have kids.

However, caring for children after potty training doesn’t have the same effect and can have the opposite effect. Tweens and teens can have fun being the boss of a semi-independent child.

I’m sure watching birth in all its painful, bloody reality could ward off some teenagers but I think babysitting for infants all day or evenings is a more effective deterrent. The terrifying reality that if it’s your baby you can’t just hand a wailing infant back to its parents and go home to a good nights rest. I think several weeks of six to eight hours of babysitting a non-potty trained infant several days a week is better than a bloody birth video.

My aunt got all her teenage daughters gigs over summer vacations being a “night nanny” two nights a week for some neighborhood mothers with new infants. According to all of them this completely cured any romantic notions about having babies or being in any hurry to do so.

Oh in the next few years tard babies will become abundant....not sure if thats a good or bad thing


I guess good for us, bad for the parents/government they burden....


Maybe the strain on the government gibs will become too much and they will go on to offee free abortions and birth control for everyone!

Apparently the handmaiden has her very own tard baby. Her last biological child has DS. They indicated they did not know he had DS until he was born, which I don’t really believe. Forgoing some early prenatal diagnostic testing among strict Catholics isn’t that unusual, but just normal checks to ensure the overall health and growth of the baby would have most likely revealed his issues well before birth. She has so carefully avoided any on the record statements on abortion I think she would claim they weren’t aware of his condition just to publicly avoid the entire topic.

She might have wanted to grandstand like Sarah Palin did about her DS son and be a pro-life heroine, but she knew the fleeting fundie praise would sink any chances for further judicial appointments. It’s fine for a red state politician but terrible for any serious judicial hopeful. The best way to shut the subject down entirely is to just say you weren’t aware of his condition until he was born. Subject closed.

However, after the DS kid she shut down the womb factory and imported two kids from Haiti instead. She obviously didn’t want to roll the dice and risk being blessed with another DS baby.

Spoiler

While she likes to pose with photos of her large brood she’s like the old English upper-crust mothers who produced lots of children but left the raising and rearing of them to the paid help. Any lawyer that ends up on the federal bench (and eventually Supreme Court) has to spend the majority of their time working, networking, politicking and ass kissing. Being pregnant would have been the most time she ever spent in regular proximity to each of her children.

Given what she preaches l’d love to hear how she rationalizes putting her legal career above the sacred duty of being a full time mother to half a dozen kids, one with special needs and two that were orphans in a new country. I’m sure the words “agonized” and “prayed” are used a lot. If god wanted Amy to stay home and change diapers he wouldn’t have created so many poor immigrant women that are so darn good at changing diapers and burping babies!

 

[Android raptor]

Don't most fundies that have a lot of kids end up not being the ones that actually take care of them? I know the Duggars just force their older daughters to do it, and I've heard kids having to parent their younger siblings like that is extremely common in the Quiverfull set.

Barrett clearly has the privilege to just hire people, but I wonder how less privileged fundies with a shitton of kids including tards do it? Are the older girls forced to care for disabled kids in addition to regular ones?

I wonder if Kayli's mom ropes her older kids into helping care for her. Might explain why they always look so miserable in pics.

 

[PeckingOrder]

Don't most fundies that have a lot of kids end up not being the ones that actually take care of them? I know the Duggars just force their older daughters to do it, and I've heard kids having to parent their younger siblings like that is extremely common in the Quiverfull set.

I’m certain that’s how it is in Christian fundie families, as in my experience that is absolutely the case with Ultra-Orthodox Jewish families. You’ll see girls as young as nine herding their gaggle of younger siblings while the mother is off handling the youngest child in their pram (sometimes the youngest two in a double pram if they’re both under 2), often while already being pregnant with the next child in line. It’s always the eldest daughters that help though; older sons are generally exempt from helping with their younger siblings, especially if they’ve had their Bar Mitzvah. Girls who had their Bat Mitzvahs aren’t so lucky and will likely take care of their increasing number of younger siblings until they get married off to have their own kids.

Come to think of it, I don’t know much about the Ultra-Orthodox attitude towards disabled children. I do know most rabbis will absolutely recommend abortion if the life of the mother is at stake, or when the fetus is incompatible with life, but once the poor sod is already born...? They don’t talk about it much. Unlike Christian fundies they don’t like parading horribly disfigured children.

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

Don't most fundies that have a lot of kids end up not being the ones that actually take care of them? I know the Duggars just force their older daughters to do it, and I've heard kids having to parent their younger siblings like that is extremely common in the Quiverfull set.

Barrett clearly has the privilege to just hire people, but I wonder how less privileged fundies with a shitton of kids including tards do it? Are the older girls forced to care for disabled kids in addition to regular ones?

I wonder if Kayli's mom ropes her older kids into helping care for her. Might explain why they always look so miserable in pics.

Yes.
My family is fundie.
I've only come across fundies with DS and one with something else that was kinda what Luna has.
One fundie family I used to know had a ds kid and went on to have a second ds kid...all the while bragging about mom being pregnant at the same time as her eldest daughter.
The mother got pregnant a final time (she was at least 43) and then they completely vanished...no baby announcement or anything, any shared pics are obviously posed to distract from the newest blessing.
So I'm taking it something significant went wrong with that pregnancy.

Anyone that has 5 plus kids and says the eldest kids don't pick up the parenting slack in some way is fucking lying and even more so when disabled kids are in the family.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Making adolescents babysit infants is the best birth control. Birth is one day, few hours...but caring for an infant is 24/7/365.

Most women I know who spent ages of 10-16 earning their money as babysitters for kids under 3 years, either paid or having to care for younger siblings, waited till close to 30 or over to have kids.

However, caring for children after potty training doesn’t have the same effect and can have the opposite effect. Tweens and teens can have fun being the boss of a semi-independent child.

I’m sure watching birth in all its painful, bloody reality could ward off some teenagers but I think babysitting for infants all day or evenings is a more effective deterrent. The terrifying reality that if it’s your baby you can’t just hand a wailing infant back to its parents and go home to a good nights rest. I think several weeks of six to eight hours of babysitting a non-potty trained infant several days a week is better than a bloody birth video.

My aunt got all her teenage daughters gigs over summer vacations being a “night nanny” two nights a week for some neighborhood mothers with new infants. According to all of them this completely cured any romantic notions about having babies or being in any hurry to do so.


Apparently the handmaiden has her very own tard baby. Her last biological child has DS. They indicated they did not know he had DS until he was born, which I don’t really believe. Forgoing some early prenatal diagnostic testing among strict Catholics isn’t that unusual, but just normal checks to ensure the overall health and growth of the baby would have most likely revealed his issues well before birth. She has so carefully avoided any on the record statements on abortion I think she would claim they weren’t aware of his condition just to publicly avoid the entire topic.

She might have wanted to grandstand like Sarah Palin did about her DS son and be a pro-life heroine, but she knew the fleeting fundie praise would sink any chances for further judicial appointments. It’s fine for a red state politician but terrible for any serious judicial hopeful. The best way to shut the subject down entirely is to just say you weren’t aware of his condition until he was born. Subject closed.

However, after the DS kid she shut down the womb factory and imported two kids from Haiti instead. She obviously didn’t want to roll the dice and risk being blessed with another DS baby.

Spoiler

While she likes to pose with photos of her large brood she’s like the old English upper-crust mothers who produced lots of children but left the raising and rearing of them to the paid help. Any lawyer that ends up on the federal bench (and eventually Supreme Court) has to spend the majority of their time working, networking, politicking and ass kissing. Being pregnant would have been the most time she ever spent in regular proximity to each of her children.

Given what she preaches l’d love to hear how she rationalizes putting her legal career above the sacred duty of being a full time mother to half a dozen kids, one with special needs and two that were orphans in a new country. I’m sure the words “agonized” and “prayed” are used a lot. If god wanted Amy to stay home and change diapers he wouldn’t have created so many poor immigrant women that are so darn good at changing diapers and burping babies!

For those unfamiliar with Catholic sexual ethics, sterilization and birth control are not allowed. The only manner of controlling fertility is ‘natural family planning’, which means not having sex while the woman is ovulating, but it’s difficult to do this consistently, so most NFP using women will get pregnant multiple times.

 

[ZapThePickle]

For those unfamiliar with Catholic sexual ethics, sterilization and birth control are not allowed. The only manner of controlling fertility is ‘natural family planning’, which means not having sex while the woman is ovulating, but it’s difficult to do this consistently, so most NFP using women will get pregnant multiple times.

"Every baby is a blessing from God" and then I look at Luna and some of the other mung beans here and wonder what goddamn God thought THAT was a fuckin blessing.


I know a lot of women are freaking out that shes going to ban birth control and they are setting up appointments to get long term IUDs. This whole holy roller is going to make it a lot more interesting

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

"Every baby is a blessing from God" and then I look at Luna and some of the other mung beans here and wonder what goddamn God thought THAT was a fuckin blessing.


I know a lot of women are freaking out that shes going to ban birth control and they are setting up appointments to get long term IUDs. This whole holy roller is going to make it a lot more interesting

People really think the Supreme Court is going to outlaw birth control? No they’re not.
I can see religious groups getting even more freedom to deny employees contraception in insurance, but my feeling is if you don’t agree with the Catholic Church on contraception don’t work for them.

 

[AnOminous]

People really think the Supreme Court is going to outlaw birth control? No they’re not.

The Supreme Court can't even do that. All it can do is not overturn laws states or Congress (or D.C. or any of those other oddballs) pass on the subject when a case is brought to it. So it could overturn Roe v. Wade (although I would argue it already was long ago), but it couldn't outlaw abortion. That takes your local buddies in your state's legislature.

 

[Miss Misery]

Making adolescents babysit infants is the best birth control. Birth is one day, few hours...but caring for an infant is 24/7/365.

Most women I know who spent ages of 10-16 earning their money as babysitters for kids under 3 years, either paid or having to care for younger siblings, waited till close to 30 or over to have kids.

However, caring for children after potty training doesn’t have the same effect and can have the opposite effect. Tweens and teens can have fun being the boss of a semi-independent child.

I’m sure watching birth in all its painful, bloody reality could ward off some teenagers but I think babysitting for infants all day or evenings is a more effective deterrent. The terrifying reality that if it’s your baby you can’t just hand a wailing infant back to its parents and go home to a good nights rest. I think several weeks of six to eight hours of babysitting a non-potty trained infant several days a week is better than a bloody birth video.

I got both of these at once: babysitting 9 month old twins plus 3 year old sibling when I was 15, and then a year later the sibling pulled their birth video out of the cabinet and demanded to watch it.

So I'm taking care of three kids under 4 while simultaneously being horrified by the miracle of life on a giant TV.

I do not have kids.

 

[Sparkling Cow]

Luna's hands looks swollen