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https://twitter.com/thejeffreymarsh/status/1321175950483169284 (https://archive.vn/JPLNR)
 
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LetterlandMafia said:
I have to ask as this isn’t the first time I’ve seen such a thing: who takes a picture like this and goes ‘this is ideal for publicising my new book!’. Also published by Bristol University press because fuck that wannabe London shithole:

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He looks like an overgrown baby with that expression. The fat isn't doing him any favors either.
 
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Shaka Brah said:
If shows mirrored demographics, most of them would have no "POC" and no gays.
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Whites are only 73% of the US population, so no, not at all, unless they're set many decades ago. White population peaked at about 90% in the 1950s.

I don't really watch American TV, but I noticed there weren't anywhere near enough Spanish speakers in shows set in California. LA County is almost half.
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
Whites are only 73% of the US population, so no, not at all, unless they're set many decades ago. White population peaked at about 90% in the 1950s.

I don't really watch American TV, but I noticed there weren't anywhere near enough Spanish speakers in shows set in California. LA County is almost half.
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Latinos aren't in vogue as being as oppressed as black people and troons. Hell, some of them can pass for white, and some more of them are even conservative.

For all the reports about lack of diversity and so on in media, there's no effort to make it match actual demographics, because actual demographics are bigoted. No, it has to match whatever is being complained about. And right now that's blacks and troons.

(I'm pretty certain a study came out showing troons were actually over-represented in media currently, as well.)
 
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Next Task said:
Latinos aren't in vogue as being as oppressed as black people and troons. Hell, some of them can pass for white, and some more of them are even conservative.

For all the reports about lack of diversity and so on in media, there's no effort to make it match actual demographics, because actual demographics are bigoted. No, it has to match whatever is being complained about. And right now that's blacks and troons.

(I'm pretty certain a study came out showing troons were actually over-represented in media currently, as well.)
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Troons I'd understand since they're 1% of the population at most so you'd basically never see them with fair representation, but the guy I was responding to was claiming that anyone who wasn't white was some tiny minority, which isn't remotely true. There is some targeting at Spanish language audiences in media with the TV networks they have.

Anecdotally, in my life I've never actually met or spoken to a troon, but dozens of people who aren't white, and my country is over 80% white.
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
Troons I'd understand since they're 1% of the population at most so you'd basically never see them with fair representation, but the guy I was responding to was claiming that anyone who wasn't white was some tiny minority, which isn't remotely true. There is some targeting at Spanish language audiences in media with the TV networks they have.
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Oh of course (though troons aren't 1%, not even close). Though realistically people are still fairly tribal, so attempting to make every show or movie have diversity as a feature doesn't make sense. Imagine the outcry if any show with a black cast was expected to put in a white person for diversity. Or every show on Telemundo had a mandatory English speaker. Some settings and situations have no need for white people, or straight people, or men, to be present, and that makes sense. But try suggesting the reverse, and see the storm of shit that will come down.

I agree that it's not preferable to have entirely straight white casts in everything at all times. The objection comes when the diversity is forced, when it doesn't make any sense, when it's regarded as an inherent good rather than having a purpose, and when it also hamstrings the creators from having the diverse characters have flaws or problems because that's considered bigoted. I believe it's official BBC policy to enforce colourblind (read: enforced diverse) casting, leading to an Indian David Copperfield, racially diverse royal European courts dating back to Tudor times, and the abomination that is what they've done to Terry Pratchett's work with The Watch. The first doesn't have to be terrible, but is certainly ahistorical and against the design of the character. The second is, again, ahistorical and only makes sense through modern identity politics, and the third is just horrific wokeness destroying all that was great about the original.

But the other problem with it is that it's saying that race has no bearing on a person. Which is theoretically great, and a fine way to be - except they also want to tell us that race is the most important thing about a person, that you can't expect to understand what people of other races have gone through, that 'not seeing race' is just the same as being racist, and that its impact is so unquantifiable but all-encompassing that everything must be examined through the lens of race. And they do the same with gender, sexuality, disabilities and so on.

You can't have it both ways, but they're trying to. Which just makes it more aggravating. That doesn't really have anything to deal with the point you were making, @Pointless Pedant, but it just annoys the crap out of me.
 
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Next Task said:
Oh of course (though troons aren't 1%, not even close). Though realistically people are still fairly tribal, so attempting to make every show or movie have diversity as a feature doesn't make sense. Imagine the outcry if any show with a black cast was expected to put in a white person for diversity. Or every show on Telemundo had a mandatory English speaker. Some settings and situations have no need for white people, or straight people, or men, to be present, and that makes sense. But try suggesting the reverse, and see the storm of shit that will come down.

I agree that it's not preferable to have entirely straight white casts in everything at all times. The objection comes when the diversity is forced, when it doesn't make any sense, when it's regarded as an inherent good rather than having a purpose, and when it also hamstrings the creators from having the diverse characters have flaws or problems because that's considered bigoted. I believe it's official BBC policy to enforce colourblind (read: enforced diverse) casting, leading to an Indian David Copperfield, racially diverse royal European courts dating back to Tudor times, and the abomination that is what they've done to Terry Pratchett's work with The Watch. The first doesn't have to be terrible, but is certainly ahistorical and against the design of the character. The second is, again, ahistorical and only makes sense through modern identity politics, and the third is just horrific wokeness destroying all that was great about the original.

But the other problem with it is that it's saying that race has no bearing on a person. Which is theoretically great, and a fine way to be - except they also want to tell us that race is the most important thing about a person, that you can't expect to understand what people of other races have gone through, that 'not seeing race' is just the same as being racist, and that its impact is so unquantifiable but all-encompassing that everything must be examined through the lens of race. And they do the same with gender, sexuality, disabilities and so on.

You can't have it both ways, but they're trying to. Which just makes it more aggravating. That doesn't really have anything to deal with the point you were making, @Pointless Pedant, but it just annoys the crap out of me.
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I should have specified this obviously doesn't apply to centuries old period pieces. Tudor courts were all white except for a handful of servants from Africa. There were actually troons in the middle ages, though. They were just as rare as they are today (I said 1% at most, probably far less than that).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John/Eleanor_Rykener

It's not a universal practice in historical fiction. 1917 had realistically white British officers (there are a few colonial troops but they don't hold any command positions), and Dunkirk only showed French colonial troops briefly and most of the army was white.
 
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LetterlandMafia said:
I have to ask as this isn’t the first time I’ve seen such a thing: who takes a picture like this and goes ‘this is ideal for publicising my new book!’. Also published by Bristol University press because fuck that wannabe London shithole:

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That face is so bad is genuinely looks like a parody of soyboys, but I'm not that fucking lucky.
 
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LetterlandMafia said:
I have to ask as this isn’t the first time I’ve seen such a thing: who takes a picture like this and goes ‘this is ideal for publicising my new book!’. Also published by Bristol University press because fuck that wannabe London shithole:

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That's some great Homer Simpson cosplay. Unfortunately for Mr. "The Beer Is To White", even Mr. Simpson ain't that stupid.
 
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https://tw.tinf.io/cartoonnetwork/status/1321142247128289286 (https://archive.vn/feF03)

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My negro fatigue is growing more and more every day.

edit: no surprise that NBO has an ActBlue donation link:
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/freeblackmamas (https://archive.vn/AaQ6m)
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Holy shit, they've mainstreamed the "X says Trans Rights" meme, haven't they?
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Clara Schumann was a great composer and performer. The same cannot be said about Alma Schindler Mahler (you want full name right?), a lying, filthy town bicycle who voluntarily gave up composing as part of the bargain in landing a husband who was somebody in the Jewish intelligentsia. To put the great in the same rank as the rank will not do women composers any favor. She was also an anti-Semite, if that matters.

People love to speculate about the composition talent of Alma Schindler -- What if hubby Gustav let her write music? -- but I'm sure her mind was not there at all; her mind was all about fucking smart and famous men.


What's the point doing this exercise at all, unless there is any stylistic kinship between Brahms and Dédé? You can't (or at least you shouldn't) base your concert program on the premise that "a white famous composer must be counterbalanced by a BIPOC, preferably female composer." The audience will get no musical insight, and, not seeing the connection between works, they will not be inspired to delve deeper into the music. What they will "learn" instead is the old liberal canard: diversity is the be-all end-all that justifies literally everything. I suppose this is exactly what the author wants, but from the perspective of an art administrator, this is potentially disastrous. Why pay for a classical-music concert when you can get an euphoric dose of diversity just about everywhere?


I don't think Leonora / Fidelio is "vulgar". And I suspect that, ever since he went deaf and had to give up concertizing, he cared much about the tastes of other people, masses or elites.


Yes, and in addition it is an aristocratic designation. Beethoven was a more complex person than the popular myth that he was a revolutionary who "stood with the people".
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It's not about having a good performance, but denying the racists any refuge. If Classical concerts were to remain as they were, they'd serve as a rallying point and morale booster for the reactionary-minded, and the Left can't abide that, especially if it involves those with wealth and influence rather than random skinheads.

Shaka Brah said:
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In sexuality they mirror Tumblr demographics, and in race they mirror global demographics.

Perhaps more accurately they mirror the demographics of Los Angeles and San Francisco, and "diversity" is being used as a cover for the same old "write what you know" laziness.
 
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Jarolleon said:
In sexuality they mirror Tumblr demographics, and in race they mirror global demographics.

Perhaps more accurately they mirror the demographics of Los Angeles and San Francisco, and "diversity" is being used as a cover for the same old "write what you know" laziness.
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They always say that the demographics should look like America today without being specific about it.
 
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