Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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I agree with that as well, that Pence is insurance from anyone messing with Trump. But the idea that Pence is Trump's tard wrangler is just a funny image in my head.
Honestly, that's on Fox News. Anything sensitive like those documents, and that's the kind of thing you personally fly someone out with a briefcase that never leaves their possession.
I would say that the ol' handcuffed briefcase thing, but that's way more suspicious and this isn't a spy movie.
I'm sure they were only copies and not originals, but still.
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Um that's just stupid. I don't know which is the greater risk here, the contents being lost or the contents ending up in the wrong hands. But seeing as they're planning to release the content anyhow, I presume the biggest risk would be them getting lost. In which case, if you have important documents like that, there would be copies.
If he's literally saying they sent the originals by FedEx, they got lost and there are no copies, then that is just dumb beyond belief.
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"I didn't think the swamp would be that deep or that vicious!"
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The DNC's bases are covered whether Biden wins or loses. If he loses, they can point to it as proof that "stale pale males" belong to the past, and the DNC must become a wokeocracy. This was likely the plan the whole time before the lockdown-induced economy crash undermined Trump's achievements on the economy, giving the DNC an actual campaign strategy slightly more sophisticated than "orange man bad" (even if that is still ultimately what it reduces down to). If Biden wins, they can gin up a health crisis (or maybe they'll get one naturally) to allow him to resign with something resembling dignity. They won't 25th Amendment him, it's too embarrassing.
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yeah if that's supposed to be the only copy then either they didn't have shit or they're the biggest fucking dummies on the goddamn planet for not making backups of their own
I want to see the security cam footage at Fox New York where some asshole is shown sending it or none of this ever happened and they never had shit.
I want to see the security cam footage at Fox New York where some asshole is shown sending it or none of this ever happened and they never had shit.
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This is one thing that really got me about their impeachment attempts. They don't seem to realize that Trump really hasn't done that much to affront them, unless you actually count attempting to stop caravans of illegal immigrants from border hopping or banning travel from countries that sponsor terrorism as being an affront to your freedoms somehow. For all his bluster and shitposting, Trump hasn't really made any big steps against the left that haven't been reactionary to them attacking or undermining him.
Had they succeeded in impeaching him though they would have had to deal with Mike "shock the gay away" Pence and unlike Trump he is politically intelligent enough to get that sort of agenda pushed through. Trump isn't that far right on the scale and is concerned with his image. Pence is a true believer and is definitely further right on the spectrum than Trump. So what did they think they would actually accomplish, as a positive for them, by ousting Trump and ushering in Pence?
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Their Plan:
Step 1 : Impeach Trump
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Democrats hold power forever.
They're so determined to save the swamp, they can't plan beyond getting rid of He Who They Hold Responsible for wrecking the 1,000 year rule of progressives before it even started.
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Feynman had the same thing pulled on him during the Challenger investigation. Was a bunch of stuff sent, IIRC to a newspaper.
With copying stuff being so easy now, I'd think they wouldn't want to work with the originals unless they had to. Hopefully he's bluffing and will "find" either the package contents or a copy somebody forgot to tell him about after somebody's pulled out a whole lot of rope to tie their own noose with. But if someone was in a hurry, Maybe they did send the originals. If the missing stuff doesn't turn up before election day I'd bet they really lost it.
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It's an affront to their ability to import their future voters and labor scabs wholesale.
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Looks like, unsurprisingly, it wasn't the only copy.
No idea how to archive but archive.org says it's been archived twice, I think I'm safe
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More specifically, Tucker apparently mentioned that he gave new copies to the shipping company so they'd know what to look for. So this won't stop anything. If nothing else, this was either someone being desperate or someone trying to send Tucker a message.
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(Insert facepalm.jpg here) I don't know how I missed that. Had to have copies to do that. A message, Or a short delay for something that needs a dead-tree-slices version? This close to the election buying even a day could be significant.
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I thought about that a lot during the impeachment hearings, and the only explanation I can come up with that makes sense to me is that key Dems knew, from the very beginning, that it was doomed to fail. Even if they got an impeachment vote in the Democrat-dominated House, the Republican-dominated Senate could still vote to acquit.
They proceeded anyway, to humiliate Trump, create doubt and distrust for him among his base, and to stoke such intense anti-Trump sentiment among the left, they could guarantee themselves a win in 2020. When the Senate vote failed, they could just say, "Well, look at him! He's so slimy, and has obviously escaped justice before! And those Republicans, putting partisan politics above justice, letting him get away with it!" They figured they could get double-duty out of it, discrediting Senate Republicans (and possibly seeing some voted out of office as a result), as well as Trump.
So I think the impeachment went as planned--or at least as expected. The first mutterings of "Vote Blue, No Matter Who" kicked off during the impeachment hearings, and has been growing since. The media did their part in stoking anti-Trump sentiment. And that's how the 2020 election year kicked off.
Had the impeachment succeeded, we only would have had a year of Mike Pence as president--with Nancy Pelosi as his VP, and a Democrat as Speaker of the House. He would have been ruthlessly obstructed and made out to be an even bigger threat to democracy than Trump--look at the insane, rabid shit said about how doomed we all are with ACB on the Supreme Court because she's a religious conservative, and you get the idea.
Pence is very smart and disciplined, but he would have got nothing done, been condemned for his handling of the Covid-19 crisis and the BLM/Antifa riots no matter what he did, and would have been voted out in November and gone in January. He wouldn't have been able to campaign effectively while dealing with endless obstructivist bullshit, and frankly, he's not as charismatic as he needs to be if he's to be a viable presidential contender. He'd also spent most of the previous three years largely invisible, which wouldn't have helped.
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One minor point: that's not how the order of succession works. You don't just have everyone in line move up a slot. If Trump were impeached and Pence took over, he'd nominate a new VP that would then need to be approved through a majority vote of both Congressional chambers, like Nixon did with Ford, or subsequently like Ford did with Rockefeller. Pence could nominate Nancy if he really felt like suiciding via shotgun blast to the back of the head, but somehow he doesn't strike me as that kind of guy.
The only way Nancy would become acting president would be if both Trump and Pence were taken out of commission at the same time. If she was unable to as well, it would pass to Chuck Grassley as president pro tem of the Senate. This continues through all Cabinet secretaries in the order their departments were created.
Otherwise, generally agreed. Pence is a good VP, but being thrust into the presidency on the cusp of a bunch of crises would make him look ineffectual, likely resulting in a Democrat win. But yeah, the Dems knew it was going to fail from the start, it was nothing but political theater. Schiff might have been the only true believer because the googly-eyed motherfucker has absolutely nothing going on between the ears. Everyone else was just hoping to tarnish Trump and the GOP in general, but I really don't think it worked for the general public. Between impeachment and the circus that was the Kavanaugh confirmation, the Dems have made it perfectly clear what they intend to do should they continue to hold power, or worse, gain more of it.
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Uh...hello, based department? I'd like to report something.
"They hated him for he spoke the truth."
Unironically, why is Biden in Texas? I'm surprised he wasn't shot for threatening oil and guns. Here, he gets off easy for being heckled.
"They hated him for he spoke the truth."
Unironically, why is Biden in Texas? I'm surprised he wasn't shot for threatening oil and guns. Here, he gets off easy for being heckled.
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If Giuliani, Bannon, Tucker, Pobosiec, and Alex Jones have copies of this stuff, something really interesting is going on. The right isn't just launching an October surprise. It's setting up an alternative investigative and authoritative system, with partisan redundancies.
It used to be you just turned stuff over to the highest set of law enforcement possible and trust things got done. Once paperwork enters a bureaucracy, it gets itemized, tracked, duplicated, and saved forever as it moves along the process. If the government was corrupt, you went to the press who could hold them accountable.
But now you can't trust the Soros-funded prosecutors or even the FBI. You can't trust the media to cover your story with journalistic shields, and you can't trust tech solutions for disseminating information outside of the media.
So the right has formed its own mini-network, each with a small audience, who can disseminate and store information in case one of them gets shut down. It's a distributed node network, each with its own investigative purview. The links are casually ideological. And the power for enforcement looks like it might come straight from Congress, guys like Ted Cruz and McConnell using that information directly, because they're the least likely to be threatened or compromised.
Maybe I'm reading too much into Giuliani/Bannon being paranoid in this one case. But this looks like the beginnings of an alternative, distributed institution on the right.
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Blue Texas meme. He's probably preaching in the bluest county in that state.
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