Disaster Three dead in knife attack in Nice, France - The religion of peace strikes again

Tasty Tatty · Oct 29, 2020

Clockwork_PurBle said:
I have read before that the "elite" radical Islamists actively seek out frustrated, sexually or otherwise, young male Muslims (think the Muslim equivalent of an incel, though not sure how they exist because of forced marriage but I'm sure it's possible) because they are easier to manipulate into going on suicide missions. They are motivated by the 72 virgins in the afterlife more so than they are Allah and spreading Islam, though Allah is still a factor. It it easier for these guys to be convinced than it is to convince the married father, married grandfather, etc. This would account for why most of them are young unmarried men.

You're correct.

That's something many people don't like to talk about, neither side. Islam's problem isn't Islam itself as it's how their leaders and scholars have weaponized their own people using Islam as a tool. Because, sure, there are violent passages in the Quran, but you can always say "see, this was the past, Allah would be better served through peace" and other things many reformists are trying to change about the violent aspects of their religions. But while political players are in charge of Islam, it's never going to change. This also makes many Muslims victims of their own society and many people from either side wouldn't like to acknowledge that. You could, in a way, compare them with child soldiers. It's basically the same level of indoctrination and manipulation.

nya001 · Oct 29, 2020

Tasty Tatty said:
You're correct.

That's something many people don't like to talk about, neither side. Islam's problem isn't Islam itself as it's how their leaders and scholars have weaponized their own people using Islam as a tool. Because, sure, there are violent passages in the Quran, but you can always say "see, this was the past, Allah would be better served through peace" and other things many reformists are trying to change about the violent aspects of their religions. But while political players are in charge of Islam, it's never going to change. This also makes many Muslims victims of their own society and many people from either side wouldn't like to acknowledge that. You could, in a way, compare them with child soldiers. It's basically the same level of indoctrination and manipulation.

Sure, but in practice, even if you compare them to manipulated child soldiers, even if you say it's not Islam's fault etc., in 2020 it's Muslims beheading people in the past couple of weeks and Muslims doing all kinds of things in non-Muslim countries and not the other way round.

Imho maybe it's time to sort of mildly repress Muslims so they no longer have the chance of doing these things, like idk putting any that have weird ideas about cartoons on a plane and sending them back to whatever Stan they came from so they can live away from the dog-infidels in their goat paradise.

Crazedking · Oct 29, 2020

The muslim cries as he rapes your daughters and behead your sons.

TheNotoriousN.I.G. · Oct 29, 2020

Tasty Tatty said:
You're correct.

That's something many people don't like to talk about, neither side. Islam's problem isn't Islam itself as it's how their leaders and scholars have weaponized their own people using Islam as a tool. Because, sure, there are violent passages in the Quran, but you can always say "see, this was the past, Allah would be better served through peace" and other things many reformists are trying to change about the violent aspects of their religions. But while political players are in charge of Islam, it's never going to change. This also makes many Muslims victims of their own society and many people from either side wouldn't like to acknowledge that. You could, in a way, compare them with child soldiers. It's basically the same level of indoctrination and manipulation.

Almost as if low IQ and Islam is a volatile combination...

Munchingonfish · Oct 29, 2020

Part and parcel of living in any country that decided to sell out its citizens to globohomo, which is most of the western ones.

TerribleIdeas™ · Oct 29, 2020

Clockwork_PurBle said:
I have read before that the "elite" radical Islamists actively seek out frustrated, sexually or otherwise, young male Muslims (think the Muslim equivalent of an incel, though not sure how they exist because of forced marriage but I'm sure it's possible) because they are easier to manipulate into going on suicide missions. They are motivated by the 72 virgins in the afterlife more so than they are Allah and spreading Islam, though Allah is still a factor. It it easier for these guys to be convinced than it is to convince the married father, married grandfather, etc. This would account for why most of them are young unmarried men.

Muslims are the original incels, because the majority of Muslim men are lucky if they get one wife, because the upper echelon males get multiple wives.

Tasty Tatty said:
You're correct.

That's something many people don't like to talk about, neither side. Islam's problem isn't Islam itself as it's how their leaders and scholars have weaponized their own people using Islam as a tool. Because, sure, there are violent passages in the Quran, but you can always say "see, this was the past, Allah would be better served through peace" and other things many reformists are trying to change about the violent aspects of their religions. But while political players are in charge of Islam, it's never going to change. This also makes many Muslims victims of their own society and many people from either side wouldn't like to acknowledge that. You could, in a way, compare them with child soldiers. It's basically the same level of indoctrination and manipulation.

There's rules in Islam which prevent modernization and reformation; the Qu'ran is considered the "perfect word of Allah, as delivered to his most beloved Prophet Muhammed (PBUH),," and is unalterable.

Shiversblood · Oct 29, 2020

I think it is no longer unrealistic to say that Islam might be made illegal during our life time. Maybe in France first, or maybe in the USA first. Or at least one western country might declare Islam a terrorist organization. And anyone who is a Muslim will be made a outlaw or fugitive.

BubbleButt · Oct 29, 2020

Maybe they should have stabbed those chinks that are systematically genociding Uyghur Muslims in China?

Oh, wait, no, that's not safe, so they'll boil a few frogs instead.

TheNotoriousN.I.G. · Oct 29, 2020

Shiversblood said:
I think it is no longer unrealistic to say that Islam might be made illegal during our life time. Maybe in France first, or maybe in the USA first. Or at least one western country might declare Islam a terrorist organization. And anyone who is a Muslim will be made a outlaw or fugitive.

This won't happen

BubbleButt said:
Maybe they should have stabbed those chinks that are systematically genociding Uyghur Muslims in China?

Oh, wait, no, that's not safe, so they'll boil a few frogs instead.

There is no Uyghur genocide.

Queen Elizabeth II · Oct 29, 2020

Shiversblood said:
I think it is no longer unrealistic to say that Islam might be made illegal during our life time. Maybe in France first, or maybe in the USA first. Or at least one western country might declare Islam a terrorist organization. And anyone who is a Muslim will be made a outlaw or fugitive.

This might not actually be unthinkable, as hard as it might be to imagine through all the webcomics.

Americans seem to think that the EU is woke and ultra liberal. The British certainly are, but the EU block itself if you look at what it has been up to is decidedly not. Americans talk about Globalhomo a lot, but where the US decided gay marriage was a right; the EU ruled long ago gay marriage was unconstitutional and will never be federally recognized as it is "against the spirit of unity".

Scandanavia has been discussing banning circumcision recently for instance, very likely to pass, moreso as a move against Jews than Muslims and it's quite likely this will be further adopted across the EU. Francophone Twitter, much like the English version is very woke, but in the past few days even my most left wing freinds back in the motherland are openly shrieking about how much they hate the sandniggers and want them to all fuck off back to Algeria (Yes I know Algerians arent really sandniggers, but the phrasing that is being thrown around doesn't translate well to English; "Butt Munchers" might be closer, a reference to the group prayer position).

Neither Germany or France historically are nations known for their racial tolerance. The past hundred years are something of an aberration in that regard.

TheNotoriousN.I.G. · Oct 29, 2020

Fagatron said:
This might not actually be unthinkable, as hard as it might be to imagine through all the webcomics.

Americans seem to think that the EU is woke and ultra liberal. The British certainly are, but the EU block itself if you look at what it has been up to is decidedly not. Americans talk about Globalhomo a lot, but where the US decided gay marriage was a right; the EU ruled long ago gay marriage was unconstitutional and will never be federally recognized as it is "against the spirit of unity".

Scandanavia has been discussing banning circumcision recently for instance, very likely to pass, moreso as a move against Jews than Muslims and it's quite likely this will be further adopted across the EU. Francophone Twitter, much like the English version is very woke, but in the past few days even my most left wing freinds back in the motherland are openly shrieking about how much they hate the sandniggers and want them to all fuck off back to Algeria (Yes I know Algerians arent really sandniggers, but the phrasing that is being thrown around doesn't translate well to English; "Butt Munchers" might be closer, a reference to the group prayer position).

Neither Germany or France historically are nations known for their racial tolerance. The past hundred years are something of an aberration in that regard.

The UK (aka Gross Cuckstain) is by far the worst out of the European countries.

Ledian · Oct 29, 2020

If this stuff is kept up, not only will we need a France Happening thread but it will eventually end up waking up the might of the frogs once again. People forget that France used to be a mighty nation and they still are. It doesn't help that the French are uniquely nationalist as I've found. The ones I know are fiercely proud of their homeland and while they've waved off attack after attack, it's been wavering over the years. Fatigue is setting in and there's only so many more times saying it's not the fault of Muslims that they're committing heinous acts will work as I see it. The French have openly given a whole group a pass so many times and instead of using those passes to do something, it gets worse and worse because those on top and below within the Muslim community likely think France is weak and ripe for the taking.

Europe isn't weak per se, just asleep. Waking up the monsters of the last 2 centuries will be one of the world's greatest mistakes. Sooner or later, it will come down to one high profile incident to light the new powder keg that Europe is slowly becoming. People are growing more and more right wing throughout European countries, it's not without reason and it won't stop growing because current events, that nothing is being done about, keep pushing people that way.

TheNotoriousN.I.G. · Oct 29, 2020

Ledian said:
If this stuff is kept up, not only will we need a France Happening thread but it will eventually end up waking up the might of the frogs once again. People forget that France used to be a mighty nation and they still are. It doesn't help that the French are uniquely nationalist as I've found. The ones I know are fiercely proud of their homeland and while they've waved off attack after attack, it's been wavering over the years. Fatigue is setting in and there's only so many more times saying it's not the fault of Muslims that they're committing heinous acts will work as I see it. The French have openly given a whole group a pass so many times and instead of using those passes to do something, it gets worse and worse because those on top and below within the Muslim community likely think France is weak and ripe for the taking.

Europe isn't weak per se, just asleep. Waking up the monsters of the last 2 centuries will be one of the world's greatest mistakes. Sooner or later, it will come down to one high profile incident to light the new powder keg that Europe is slowly becoming. People are growing more and more right wing throughout European countries, it's not without reason and it won't stop growing because current events, that nothing is being done about, keep pushing people that way.

Globalists are getting worried. In Germany they had to shut down a special forces unit because so many of them were redpilled. I can't imagine the men in the armed forces are very pleased with what's happening to their nations, almost all of them must be nationalists to one degree or another and they still haven't managed to cuck the armed forces in terms of personnel like they have with the police.

KingCoelacanth · Oct 29, 2020

TheNotoriousN.I.G. said:
Globalists are getting worried. In Germany they had to shut down a special forces unit because so many of them were redpilled. I can't imagine the men in the armed forces are very pleased with what's happening to their nations, almost all of them must be nationalists to one degree or another and they still haven't managed to cuck the armed forces in terms of personnel like they have with the police.

Its not hard to filter out people you don't want while encouraging people you do for armed organizations

TheNotoriousN.I.G. · Oct 29, 2020

KingCoelacanth said:
Its not hard to filter out people you don't want while encouraging people you do for armed organizations

The British Army tried to increase its ethnic diversity but because of the nature of the army as well as the atmosphere in it, they totally failed at this, so I guess the next best option is just to run the armed forces into the ground by slashing their budget. Check out this advert for the British Army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4OoPNY_YM

HeyYou · Oct 29, 2020

Fagatron said:
This might not actually be unthinkable, as hard as it might be to imagine through all the webcomics.

Americans seem to think that the EU is woke and ultra liberal. The British certainly are, but the EU block itself if you look at what it has been up to is decidedly not. Americans talk about Globalhomo a lot, but where the US decided gay marriage was a right; the EU ruled long ago gay marriage was unconstitutional and will never be federally recognized as it is "against the spirit of unity".

Scandanavia has been discussing banning circumcision recently for instance, very likely to pass, moreso as a move against Jews than Muslims and it's quite likely this will be further adopted across the EU. Francophone Twitter, much like the English version is very woke, but in the past few days even my most left wing freinds back in the motherland are openly shrieking about how much they hate the sandniggers and want them to all fuck off back to Algeria (Yes I know Algerians arent really sandniggers, but the phrasing that is being thrown around doesn't translate well to English; "Butt Munchers" might be closer, a reference to the group prayer position).

Neither Germany or France historically are nations known for their racial tolerance. The past hundred years are something of an aberration in that regard.

To be fair it's not like America was known for racial tolerance until 60 years ago either. I agree with your general point, though, because France is not "woke" on freedom of religion like Americans are used to. If one country decided to absolutely hammer down on Islam in Europe it would be France.

Governor Jeb Bush · Oct 29, 2020

Honestly if this keeps happening in France i can see someone starting a little "resistance" movement... the frenchies are a very odd bunch and won't think anything of starting civil war/revolution...

last time for them was 1968 :story:

Pixy · Oct 29, 2020

Somchai said:
A friend told me he's been apprehensive to learn more about Hitler and the lead-up to the second world war, because he's concerned about what he may learn. I can empathize with that feeling. What if you come around to sympathize with a view of the world and of history that is completely incompatible with your society, something that can make you lose your job, your home, your family and your friends? Something you need to keep quiet about forever, which would be of no benefit to you if you ever tried to talk about it. It would be like being the only heretic in a deeply religious society. Something you always have to keep secret.

He would be disappointed to discover antisemitism was sorta mainstream at the time, perhaps? There were Jewish comedians who acted out jewish stereotypes as part of their act in the early 20th Century, a couple of them got rather popular doing it. It's not like 'the jews did it' was a spontaneous thing that Hitler came up with.

With regards to Mein Kampf, given its nature as an autobiography, it's best to keep a somewhat skeptical view of what's presented in there and check it out with other historians' work on his early life. Rarely will you find anyone who writes an entirely truthful account of their own lives without skewing it in their favour. Especially if it's an autobiography that's meant to be read by an entire nation.

The details about the leadup to the second world war aren't as intensely covered in education as they could have been. Everyone knows Hitler invaded Poland, less well-known is that a false-flag attack was partly used as the justification. Likewise with Molotov-Ribbentrop; people know it happened and that it makes for a great 'both sidesism argument', but they don't consider the pre-existing conditions that lead to the Nazis cozying up to the Soviets, such as each other's existential fear of the other, both nations' status' as pariah states or even the earlier training agreement the Germans had with the Soviets.

That's just the European theatre. The Pacific War, it can be argued, started with Japan's invasion into Manchuria and subsequently the rest of China. The USS Panay incident, uncannily similar to the Liberty, has even been seen by historians as Japan 'testing' the US' tolerance of Japanese aggression. The fact that the US brushed it off after accepting payment for the sailors' deaths was partly what influenced the decision to strike Pearl Harbour, as it reinforced Japanese planners' impression the US was a 'weak-willed' country, especially during its isolationist phase.

OnMoTi · Oct 29, 2020

I'd just like to point out that this mudslime killed more people than the "far right" have in the US (a nation with 5x the population) for the entire year. According to this article, the "far right" is responsible for a total of 2 deaths. One was somebody in their car shooting a "peaceful protester" who pulled a gun on them (otherwise known as self defense) and one "anti-feminist" (I'll count them as "far right" for this comparison even though that's debatable,) killed a judge's son.

Fromtheblackdepths · Oct 29, 2020

Clockwork_PurBle said:
I have read before that the "elite" radical Islamists actively seek out frustrated, sexually or otherwise, young male Muslims (think the Muslim equivalent of an incel, though not sure how they exist because of forced marriage but I'm sure it's possible) because they are easier to manipulate into going on suicide missions. They are motivated by the 72 virgins in the afterlife more so than they are Allah and spreading Islam, though Allah is still a factor. It it easier for these guys to be convinced than it is to convince the married father, married grandfather, etc. This would account for why most of them are young unmarried men.

My Allah weaponized incels.

Disaster Three dead in knife attack in Nice, France - The religion of peace strikes again

"We are once again victims of Islamo-fascism", declares the mayor of Nice​

The CFCM "condemns the terrorist attack" and calls on Muslims, as a sign of mourning, to cancel the Mawlid festivities​

Christian Estrosi arrived at the scene of the attack​

Police evacuate the area​

Three dead including two women​

Emmanuel Macron will go to Nice, according to Christian Estrosi​

Demining operation in progress, "do not panic", urges local police​

The author of the facts arrested​

The national anti-terrorism prosecution seized​

The Interior Ministry has opened a crisis unit​

"Thoughts of the relatives of the victims", reacts Nicolas Cadène, general rapporteur of the Observatory of secularism​

One minute of silence and suspension of sitting in the Assembly​

Éric Ciotti: "It looks like a terrorist attack in every way"​

"Everything suggests a terrorist attack", says the mayor of Nice​

Two dead and several wounded, the perpetrator arrested​

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"We are once again victims of Islamo-fascism", declares the mayor of Nice

The CFCM "condemns the terrorist attack" and calls on Muslims, as a sign of mourning, to cancel the Mawlid festivities

Christian Estrosi arrived at the scene of the attack

Police evacuate the area

Three dead including two women

Emmanuel Macron will go to Nice, according to Christian Estrosi

Demining operation in progress, "do not panic", urges local police

The author of the facts arrested

The national anti-terrorism prosecution seized

The Interior Ministry has opened a crisis unit

"Thoughts of the relatives of the victims", reacts Nicolas Cadène, general rapporteur of the Observatory of secularism

One minute of silence and suspension of sitting in the Assembly

Éric Ciotti: "It looks like a terrorist attack in every way"

"Everything suggests a terrorist attack", says the mayor of Nice

Two dead and several wounded, the perpetrator arrested