US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
WTF?

If they don't want her getting ambushed, stick her in the same basement that Joe hid in when he called a lid for several days straight prior to the debate.

This is just forcing the poor abused girl out into the open to wear a smile so they can say 'look, she's fine, everyone's happy, nothing inappropriate happened'.

This is just cold and sinister.

This is why I laugh at Joe when he can't remember who his wife is or what town he's in. I love watching him grimace and pout when he can't remember the latest zinger line he heard from a consultant.
 
In the 11th hour, he's gone from Trump supporters fucking with him at campaign rallies to God Himself fucking with him at campaign rallies.

If God is getting in on the act now...

You know, I try not to say it, because every time you joke about 2020 can't get weirder it does. But on the election thread we were talking a bit about "what outcome provides the maximum amount of salt?" It just occurred to me that Joe Biden stroking out in rage on the weekend before Election Day, right after being chased around Texas by a Trump-themed hearse, would probably be the most chaotic outcome we could get.

There's nothing glowing about that idea, and I don't really want it to happen (fuck off feds). I'd rather have a clean Trump win. But if you're listing out scenarios that maximize both disruptive chaos and maximize the probability it happens naturally, that would be it. It's the WhatIf risk everyone forgot about for months because of all the other craziness, but it never went away.
 

Opinion: Questions Joe Biden should answer about Hunter's emails​


DAVID HARSANYI | THE DETROIT NEWS | 10:47 pm EDT October 28, 2020
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First, Joe Biden's Praetorian Guard in the media argued that the New York Post's Hunter Biden scoop was "Russian disinformation." The DOJ, FBI and DNI each publicly disagreed. No one in the Biden camp has denied the veracity of a single email thus far. Yet, as of this writing, the Post's Twitter account is still frozen, and most major news outlets won't report the story.

The next deflection was to play on your emotions: "How dare you mock a father struggling with the addiction of his son?!" This isn't about Hunter's addictions, predilections or life choices, but about his favor-trading, and whether a presidential candidate benefited from them during his tenure as vice president of the United States. We shouldn't mock those with addiction, but a person isn't inoculated from scrutiny merely because he's an addict, either.
Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden speaks at a drive-in campaign stop at Bucks County Community College in Bristol, Pa., Saturday, Oct. 24, 2020.


Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden speaks at a drive-in campaign stop at Bucks County Community College in Bristol, Pa., Saturday, Oct. 24, 2020.
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Recently, a Wisconsin reporter finally asked Biden what he thought about Sen. Ron Johnson accusing his family of profiting from Hunter's shady arrangements.
It should be said that reporters have adopted a pusillanimous positioning in which they refuse to ask Biden straightforward questions, but rather frame their queries as accusations from "the right." In this case, Biden teed off on Johnson, who he claimed "should be ashamed of himself" for suggesting that the Bidens "profited off" the family name — an indisputable fact, and one that Hunter himself has admitted. Biden went to claim that the "vast majority of the intelligence people have come out and said there's no basis at all" — a complete fabrication. What he didn't do was answer any specific questions.

If all of this is really so wild and crazy conspiracy theory — "spaghetti being thrown at the wall," as one CNN host claimed — then Biden would be champing at the bit to dispel it. In fact, he very well might have some good answers to the questions that journalists ought to be asking him.

For instance:
►In 2018, you bragged that as vice president you had threatened Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko with the withdrawal of United States aid if he didn't fire state prosecutor, Victor Shokin. You called Poroshenko on Feb. 11, 12, 18 and 19 and demanded he fire the prosecutor — only days after the prosecutor had seized Burisma owner's property. Did you know at the time that Shokin was investigating Burisma, the oil company that was paying your son Hunter more than $50,000 a month? Did you ever talk to your son about Shokin?
►Last year, in an interview with Axios, you claimed that you had no idea what Hunter was doing at Burisma. Yet, in 2015, two Obama administration officials had raised concerns to the White House about Hunter's relationship with the oil company, worried that the relationship undermined the administration's anti-corruption message. Did you hear about these complaints at the time? Were you troubled that Hunter's leveraging of the Biden name might look like influence-peddling? Why did you think he was making so much money?
►Similarly, though you have claimed that you had no idea what Hunter was doing at Burisma, an email found on Hunter's laptop — now verified as authentic by Fox News — shows an executive from the oil company thanking your son for facilitating a meeting between you and he while you were still vice president. Did you take that meeting? If so, did you talk about Hunter's work? If not, what did you talk about with the executive?
►Have you ever financially benefitted from Hunter's relationship with Bursima or any Ukrainian company — or has he held money for you in trust from any such a deal?
►Again, you claimed in the past to have no idea about Hunter's business, yet he accompanied you on Air Force Two flight to China in 2013. Two years earlier, you reportedly met with Chinese Communist Party members and favored billionaires in Beijing as vice president, in a meeting facilitated by Hunter's associates. What did you discuss at this meeting?
►Hunter's emails also claim that you would be getting a 10% share in a deal he struck with a Chinese energy firm — that he secured trading in on the Biden name. Did you ever benefit financially from this deal, or any other deals made by Hunter in China, or has he held money for you in trust from any such a deal?

There may well be excellent answers to all these questions. Journalists, of course, won't even investigate these incidents now, much less put the presidential candidate on the spot.

David Harsanyi is a senior writer at National Review and the author of the book "First Freedom: A Ride Through America's Enduring History With the Gun."



Sorry if I’m late in this article but I think it raises some fair points and honestly it’s frustrating that journalists won’t even entertain the idea. I didn’t expect them to but the silence is damning.
 
I think he'll be viewed similarly to Nixon. TDS will last a long time but the deranged edge will eventually wear off until he just becomes a stock historical reference of Orange President during the 2010s-2020s Bad. Leftists will eventually be able to make quasi-humorous mockery and satire of him again since they'll be less and less bound to the idea that anything less than a Two Minutes' Hate is humanizing the Orange Hitler and they'll have had other Republicans that are even worse Hitlers by then.

Nah, I think Trump will be remembered like Reagan where the Republicans idolize him, leftists demonize him and most normies view him as a stock president archetype. Reagan heralded the rise of the Religious Right and the Neoconservatives as the dominant cliques in the GOP and Trump would herald the rise of a new party realignment in the GOP if he gets a second term.

Worst case scenario, he'll be like Bush where he's hated until the next GOP president comes along and even then, he's more likely to be compared to Bush Sr. as opposed to Dubya in that scenario.

As autistic as this probably sounds, I think Gamergate will be the Millennial equivalent of Nixon.

It was a dumb internet slapfight that was meaningless by itself but it was very loud and a sizeable portion of the Woke Left still hasn't fully let it go.

This map has not budged at all since the last debate. Only thing that changes is North Carolina.

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I put my money down on AZ, NM, NC, CO, NH, MN, WI, MI and PA for Trump thanks to people bidding high for Biden.

It seems like people are inflating Biden so that they can make good profits when Trump rises is my guess,

At this point, Nate Boron and the other Dem pollsters are coping hard.

I still think Biden has a shot, but it's gonna be a close one no matter who wins.

North Carolina, Florida, and Ohio are pretty much a lock for Trump and Arizona might as well be, but there is a small chance Biden could flip it. Arizona is for the Democrats what Virginia is for the Republicans in that there is a chance to win it, but it's extremely unlikely.

Wisconsin could go either way very easily, but I'm thinking Trump has a slight edge over Biden thanks to how badly BLM fucked up multiple cities in that state.

Pennsylvania's gonna be the big one to watch and while I think Trump has the edge thanks to the fracking comments and potential surprise turnout from the normally apolitical Amish and Mennonite communities, it's fairly obvious the Dems are going to do everything they can to get Pennsylvania and maybe Florida as well, although Florida's probably got enough voter turnout for Trump that it will overcome the margins of fraud.

Michigan is another nail-biter that could go either way and I honestly don't know what to think.

Minnesota's a potential flip but the gap isn't quite as narrow as we think if early votes are to go by. If Trump can get one last rally in Minnesota and Wisconsin over Halloween weekend, it could improve his odds in both states, especially for in-person votes.

The only "best-case" scenario that's even close to realistic is Trump wins all the states he won in 2016 plus Minnesota and the popular vote and maybe a few extra House seats.

But an electoral vote win combined with a popular vote win is enough to give Trump a mandate in and of itself, even if it's a very close win.
 
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Nah, I think Trump will be remembered like Reagan where the Republicans idolize him, leftists demonize him and most normies view him as a stock president archetype. Reagan heralded the rise of the Religious Right and the Neoconservatives as the dominant cliques in the GOP and Trump would herald the rise of a new party realignment in the GOP if he gets a second term.

Worst case scenario, he'll be like Bush where he's hated until the next GOP president comes along and even then, he's more likely to be compared to Bush Sr. as opposed to Dubya in that scenario.

As autistic as this probably sounds, I think Gamergate will be the Millennial equivalent of Nixon.

It was a dumb internet slapfight that was meaningless by itself but it was very loud and a sizeable portion of the Woke Left still hasn't fully let it go.



At this point, Nate Boron and the other Dem pollsters are coping hard.

I still think Biden has a shot, but it's gonna be a close one no matter who wins.

North Carolina, Florida, and Ohio are pretty much a lock for Trump and Arizona might as well be, but there is a small chance Biden could flip it. Arizona is for the Democrats what Virginia is for the Republicans in that there is a chance to win it, but it's extremely unlikely.

Wisconsin could go either way very easily, but I'm thinking Trump has a slight edge over Biden thanks to how badly BLM fucked up multiple cities in that state.

Pennsylvania's gonna be the big one to watch and while I think Trump has the edge thanks to the fracking comments and potential surprise turnout from the normally apolitical Amish and Mennonite communities, it's fairly obvious the Dems are going to do everything they can to get Pennsylvania and maybe Florida as well, although Florida's probably got enough voter turnout for Trump that it will overcome the margins of fraud.

Michigan is another nail-biter that could go either way and I honestly don't know what to think.

Minnesota's a potential flip but the gap isn't quite as narrow as we think if early votes are to go by. If Trump can get one last rally in Minnesota and Wisconsin over Halloween weekend, it could improve his odds in both states, especially for in-person votes.

The only "best-case" scenario that's even close to realistic is Trump wins all the states he won in 2016 plus Minnesota and the popular vote and maybe a few extra House seats.

But an electoral vote win combined with a popular vote win is enough to give Trump a mandate in and of itself, even if it's a very close win.
Hell if Trump gets a mandate he might really up his approval among gays.

You're a wonderful audience.
 
Hell if Trump gets a mandate he might really up his approval among gays.

You're a wonderful audience.

The harder feminism goes, the more that the gays will like trump. Fags are already being ostracized in their circles if they're too masculine or straight acting. Anything other than faggy obsequience can lead to hate from feminists or the fairies.
 
Copying my post from the 2020 election thread:

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You retarded conspiracy theorists, he didn't eulogize former KKK "grand wizard" Robert Byrd. Let's see how the AP fact checks this horrible accusation:
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He eulogized former KKK "exalted cyclops" Robert Byrd. I bet you feel stupid now, you probably believe in that stupid Q conspiracy that we tell you not to believe.
 
The harder feminism goes, the more that the gays will like trump. Fags are already being ostracized in their circles if they're too masculine or straight acting. Anything other than faggy obsequience can lead to hate from feminists or the fairies.
I strenuously object to you using my terrible joke as a jump off to make a legitimate point.
 
Morgue called, they want their corpse back.
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The thought of Biden running through red lights and plowing through pedestrians because he believes death itself is right behind him is hilarious.

It always cracks me up how vulnerable the DNC is to this sort of heckling and trolling. They're so high on their farts they never think things through on possible trolling avenues.
 
Nah, I think Trump will be remembered like Reagan where the Republicans idolize him, leftists demonize him and most normies view him as a stock president archetype. Reagan heralded the rise of the Religious Right and the Neoconservatives as the dominant cliques in the GOP and Trump would herald the rise of a new party realignment in the GOP if he gets a second term.

Worst case scenario, he'll be like Bush where he's hated until the next GOP president comes along and even then, he's more likely to be compared to Bush Sr. as opposed to Dubya in that scenario.

As autistic as this probably sounds, I think Gamergate will be the Millennial equivalent of Nixon.

It was a dumb internet slapfight that was meaningless by itself but it was very loud and a sizeable portion of the Woke Left still hasn't fully let it go.



At this point, Nate Boron and the other Dem pollsters are coping hard.

I still think Biden has a shot, but it's gonna be a close one no matter who wins.

North Carolina, Florida, and Ohio are pretty much a lock for Trump and Arizona might as well be, but there is a small chance Biden could flip it. Arizona is for the Democrats what Virginia is for the Republicans in that there is a chance to win it, but it's extremely unlikely.

Wisconsin could go either way very easily, but I'm thinking Trump has a slight edge over Biden thanks to how badly BLM fucked up multiple cities in that state.

Pennsylvania's gonna be the big one to watch and while I think Trump has the edge thanks to the fracking comments and potential surprise turnout from the normally apolitical Amish and Mennonite communities, it's fairly obvious the Dems are going to do everything they can to get Pennsylvania and maybe Florida as well, although Florida's probably got enough voter turnout for Trump that it will overcome the margins of fraud.

Michigan is another nail-biter that could go either way and I honestly don't know what to think.

Minnesota's a potential flip but the gap isn't quite as narrow as we think if early votes are to go by. If Trump can get one last rally in Minnesota and Wisconsin over Halloween weekend, it could improve his odds in both states, especially for in-person votes.

The only "best-case" scenario that's even close to realistic is Trump wins all the states he won in 2016 plus Minnesota and the popular vote and maybe a few extra House seats.

But an electoral vote win combined with a popular vote win is enough to give Trump a mandate in and of itself, even if it's a very close win.
I agree with most of this, but you can't compare goobergrape to Nixon. Nixon was a hugely influential historical figure who founded the EPA, launched the war on drugs, made a historic rapprochement with communist China to turn them against the USSR, and various other massively important acts. Goobergrape was...a dumb internet slapfight.

Every good history of the 20th century would cover Nixon, every good history of the 21st would cover Trump, the average reader has no idea goobergrape even happened.
 
I agree with most of this, but you can't compare goobergrape to Nixon. Nixon was a hugely influential historical figure who founded the EPA, launched the war on drugs, made a historic rapprochement with communist China to turn them against the USSR, and various other massively important acts. Goobergrape was...a dumb internet slapfight.

Every good history of the 20th century would cover Nixon, every good history of the 21st would cover Trump, the average reader has no idea goobergrape even happened.

Agreed completely, but we're not talking about Nixon as he's depicted in the actual history books where it's mostly his actual achievements with the only real shade thrown at him being because of Watergate and the War on Drugs

I'm talking about Nixon as he's depicted by bitter Boomer leftists where he's remembered more like a cartoonish villain and a straw crypto-fascist. The rise of Nixon and his successes prior to Watergate really crippled the New Left of the 1960's and early 1970's and a lot of the Boomer leftists and progressives who didn't go neoliberal or clique up with the neocons/fundies see Nixon as the point where everything went wrong.

The actual history books won't even consider including Gamergate, but there will be gray-haired Millennial SJW burnouts who'll bitch about that dumb internet baby tantrum decades later like so many Boomer burnouts did with Nixon and still do in some cases.

With American culture, there's the "Historical Nixon" of real life and the "Boomer Nixon" as he's viewed as in the pop culture retrospectives. Anyone who actually knows history will have an opinion on Nixon but it will be a lot more nuanced compared to someone who only knows Nixon through TV jokes written by bitter Hollywood Boomers
 
Agreed completely, but we're not talking about Nixon as he's depicted in the actual history books where it's mostly his actual achievements with the only real shade thrown at him being because of Watergate and the War on Drugs

I'm talking about Nixon as he's depicted by bitter Boomer leftists where he's remembered more like a cartoonish villain and a straw crypto-fascist. The rise of Nixon and his successes prior to Watergate really crippled the New Left of the 1960's and early 1970's and a lot of the Boomer leftists and progressives who didn't go neoliberal or clique up with the neocons/fundies see Nixon as the point where everything went wrong.

The actual history books won't even consider including Gamergate, but there will be gray-haired Millennial SJW burnouts who'll bitch about that dumb internet baby tantrum decades later like so many Boomer burnouts did with Nixon and still do in some cases.

With American culture, there's the "Historical Nixon" of real life and the "Boomer Nixon" as he's viewed as in the pop culture retrospectives. Anyone who actually knows history will have an opinion on Nixon but it will be a lot more nuanced compared to someone who only knows Nixon through TV jokes written by bitter Hollywood Boomers
True, but I don't see Gamergate appearing in bitter old millennial comedy either. Tired orange man bad jokes, absolutely, maybe even mocking other right wing politicians of the time like Farage and McConnell, but the audience wouldn't get a goobergrape joke.

In Britain there is going to be a massive "lost cause of Corbyn" cultural faction for decades, though, and people like Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings will linger as hated figures among the left for a while in the same way Thatcher did even after her death.
 
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