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Will there be a separate thread for the election itself?
2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.
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I am generally loath to go around throwing out allegations of -ism/-ist all day like the left does... but it's the fact that he's Jewish.
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I'm honestly conflicted about a party "giving up" on a state. For instance, all those unopposed Dems running. Why not have an R run? It makes me annoyed, as it makes the conservatives there feel abandoned. I know they are expensive, but it still irks me. It's similar to the GOP not having a primary in every state. I'll admit that's a bit personal to me, since I wanted to see Trump break some more records.
I know it's a bit hypocritical, since I laugh at the Dems trying to turn Texas blue, but it's still important to me tbh.
The GOP "gave up" in VA, and look at it now.
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I still can't get over the Lil' Wayne endorsement. I mean it makes sense, it's totally within his character, but it's also hilarious
it's cuz he's a liberal and has a history of support for a lot of stuff that the base opposes. Gotta give him credit for what he has apparently accomplished in the middle east though. Didn't see that coming at all
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People say that Kushner has been one of the main reasons Trump didn't get his immigration policies implemented as fast or as far as he wanted
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What specific policy or policies have been implemented that he was responsible for that the base opposes?
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There are actually some community colleges that offer 4 year programs, but they're very rare.
I had classes with some people who were on their 3rd or 4th year because they could only take so many classes at a time due to working. Part of the appeal of cc is flexibility.
But I would be surprised if she fits into either category.
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The question was not whether people say he was one of the main reasons Trump didn't get his immigration policies, but why do they say he was one of the main reasons Trump didn't get his immigration policies.
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One predictive measures of victory has been which candidate is the most enthusiastic. A common counter to the enthusiasm argument is that the negative enthusiasm a large portion of Biden supporters have against Trump is enough to counter the enthusiasm Trump supporters have for their president. The vast majority of Trump supporters are voting for their presidents. A much larger portion of Biden supporters are voting against the president.
The thing about negative enthusiasm (the TDS) a lot of Trump supporters seem to be worried about is that this is not a separate thing from enthusiasm in general that gives Biden an extra boost. Rather, the negative enthusiasm is baked into the enthusiasm that he already has. The Don Lemon, Nate Silver, and Lincoln Project of the world when polled and asked the question of how enthusiastic they are, they are going to say "Extremely Enthusiastic", they'll just say they're voting against Trump.
All of the TDS the Democrats can muster cannot close the enthusiasm gap between him and Trump. That is even worse than what Clinton had. While it is true that she was more hated, she also had more enthusiasm on the basis of hyping up shattering the glass door of the first woman president, however insincere that might be. Biden might have a larger potential voting block, but the trade off is that there are more potential voters who may feel like staying at home because why bother putting forth the effort to go to a polling booth if he is as interesting as watching paint dry? Extremely enthusiastic supporters will go out and vote, and Trump leads by a wide margin. Biden might do better among "very enthusiastic" and "moderately" enthusiastic voters (which really should be grouped as one), but they are more likely to sit at home and eat Doritos chips. If the election was decided upon who was more enthusiastic, Trump would win hands down.
Biden's victory is dependent on whenever or not he can get the unlikely voters (the ones who have a 30-50% chance of showing up) to show up while Trump needs to get out the likely voters for him. The Democrats' workaround to all of this is the biggest mail in ballot voting in history. While it does give them an early voting advantage, Republicans have turned out far more than expected in swing states like Florida where Democrats' advantage is even smaller than in 2016.
When even the Democrats' built in advantage was diluted by early in-person voting, it says a lot. If you want to know why Biden is having to campaign in the Rust Belt - especially Pennsylvania -, bring Obama out, and plot the biggest voting fraud scheme in history, there is your answer. Not saying this guarantees Trump's re-election, but the pro-Trump meme about this being an actual race is going to come true.
The thing about negative enthusiasm (the TDS) a lot of Trump supporters seem to be worried about is that this is not a separate thing from enthusiasm in general that gives Biden an extra boost. Rather, the negative enthusiasm is baked into the enthusiasm that he already has. The Don Lemon, Nate Silver, and Lincoln Project of the world when polled and asked the question of how enthusiastic they are, they are going to say "Extremely Enthusiastic", they'll just say they're voting against Trump.
All of the TDS the Democrats can muster cannot close the enthusiasm gap between him and Trump. That is even worse than what Clinton had. While it is true that she was more hated, she also had more enthusiasm on the basis of hyping up shattering the glass door of the first woman president, however insincere that might be. Biden might have a larger potential voting block, but the trade off is that there are more potential voters who may feel like staying at home because why bother putting forth the effort to go to a polling booth if he is as interesting as watching paint dry? Extremely enthusiastic supporters will go out and vote, and Trump leads by a wide margin. Biden might do better among "very enthusiastic" and "moderately" enthusiastic voters (which really should be grouped as one), but they are more likely to sit at home and eat Doritos chips. If the election was decided upon who was more enthusiastic, Trump would win hands down.
Biden's victory is dependent on whenever or not he can get the unlikely voters (the ones who have a 30-50% chance of showing up) to show up while Trump needs to get out the likely voters for him. The Democrats' workaround to all of this is the biggest mail in ballot voting in history. While it does give them an early voting advantage, Republicans have turned out far more than expected in swing states like Florida where Democrats' advantage is even smaller than in 2016.
When even the Democrats' built in advantage was diluted by early in-person voting, it says a lot. If you want to know why Biden is having to campaign in the Rust Belt - especially Pennsylvania -, bring Obama out, and plot the biggest voting fraud scheme in history, there is your answer. Not saying this guarantees Trump's re-election, but the pro-Trump meme about this being an actual race is going to come true.
I would be more worried if Trump was not doing as good, if not better in rural regions and even urban areas like Philadelphia. The key to Trump's success is his working class message; if you work hard in America, you can have a job. That is a message that cuts across all ethnicity and race, which is why Hispanic and black support have been growing among the working class. If Hispanic and black working class are coming out for Trump, so will the whites in as big, if not bigger numbers than last time. The problem that Trump faces are the suburban voters that he has been bleeding. In states like Pennsylvania, it will come down to whenever or not Trump can maximize working class turn out against the suburban voters he lost.
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Massachusetts is a pretty dubiously run state, but most of the Democrat base here still thinks of it as the olden day JFK types and are hard-pressed to shake that sort of tribalism off. I'm sure there's a fair number of constituents who saw the past years' worth of BLM/ANTIFA insanity and COVID authoritarianism and are finally coming to their senses that the party has gone full renegade against American values, but it's not yet enough to tip the scales here. Hell, I blame Charlie Baker for giving Massachusetts a skewed view of a "good" Republican when in reality he's just another RINO strangling our economy by stifling the COVID reopening efforts alongside the rest of his Democrat underlings like Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito and A.G. Maura Healey. Our unemployment rate is still higher than average compared to red states as a result.
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Because you have to find an actual person who wants to run. You can want someone to run all you want, but if no one wants to run, you're shit outta luck.
I see people all the time say that it would help the GOP to get more black Republicans, especially young ones, to run for office to help counter the racism allegations the Dems and the media throw at it and help the party's image.
And I agree. But I don't wanna fucking run for office. Hell no. So when it comes to stuff like this, I don't really have room to criticize because I myself have no interest in running for office. How can I demand someone do something I'm unwilling to do myself? I mean I could, but I won't.
You fault the party for abandoning those conservatives, but none of those conservatives are personally willing to do it either. If those abandoned conservatives feel that strongly about it, they can run for office themselves.
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RCP now saying that Arizona is tied.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-scheme-to-register-dead-people-as-democrats/
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Sure. Here are a few examples, but I'm sure I could find many others:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jared-kushner-first-step-act-criminal-justice-reform-1467867
https://www.axios.com/trump-kushner-second-thoughts-408d5a33-725d-442a-88e4-d6ab6742c139.html
Now do I necessarily believe this story? Not really, but it shows that he either played a big role in justice reform or Trump wants it to appear that he played a pivotal role in the First Step Act.
https://www.salon.com/2020/06/22/jo...e-most-powerful-person-in-trumps-white-house/
Another questionable source I know, but I mean these things do add up.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/who-is-jared-kushner
https://www.businessinsider.com/iva...ner-are-finally-registered-republicans-2020-3
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/442599-kushner-plan-keeps-legal-immigration-levels-neutral
Basically, people are right not to trust him on face value, and his presence as an unelected family member power player should naturally raise suspicions
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I recall this phenomenon of the polls becoming more even just before the election happened in 2016 too. I wonder if people actually changed their minds of if pollsters are scrambling to deliver more accurate results.RCP now saying that Arizona is tied.
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Another thing that has changed in those 4 years besides enthusiasm is that Trump made them knock off 2 grades in their egos, 2016 election was a dumpster fire of the DNC being ultra smug about the election, polls? Hillary was winning them, votes? hillary was promised all the youth, POC, LGBT+ votes and that was enough to give her the promised crown so what happened?
The people that dont like getting dicked in the butt and work did not like being told that they dont have any rights because they were white and *gasp* normies , they went and vote and are going to do it again just to spite them and because Trump at least made his presidency the funniest that has ever happened since Brazil was eliminated in the last world cup
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It's interesting to see how much of a joke the youth vote is, coming from my family where all the kids have a 100% voting rate in national elections. I completely missed city elections a year ago (totally forgot what day it was), and got so much crap from my younger sisters that thats not happening again. I guess it's just a matter of emphasis, as my parents were very clear that the vote is our great treasure as citizens and also our important responsibility. Not voting would be a breach of civic duty.
I also voted early (in person), and they're making fun of me for it. Sue me for not wanting to stand in line if I don't have to.
I also voted early (in person), and they're making fun of me for it. Sue me for not wanting to stand in line if I don't have to.
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Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, Billy Bob Blow, ALL THE BLOWS, get to go out and BLOW UP THE SYSTEM
And it will feel good.
And it will feel good.
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Chad unmasked Republican versus jibbering, nervous thicc eyebag virgin cuckmask wearing Democrat.
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Weird that the Repub was more well-spoken.
Wouldn't the stereotype be the reverse?
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