Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

Damn I tried to go back/search but can't find it but another kiwi recently pointed out that narcissism better explains his behavior than autism does, which I thought made the most sense to me because so much of Lucas' behavior is so conflicting, beyond his dips hit brand of hypocrisy

Now I only just discovered Lucas this year, aside from a few years ago hearing about that one weird creep who was banned from Starbucks for hitting on a high school Starbucks barista, and I'm not anywhere versed in the mental health field so I may be speaking out of turn or from ignorance and if I'm spreading misinfo or making ass assumptions, please correct me but it's really hard for me to believe that he has this system in place with a payee, seeing a psych doctor, and court appearances related to his mental health and he's allowed to roam around like this. Even just from phone calls and his most recent transgression.. screaming in the park (he says about BLM but we know it was about semen and zoomer bae fecund).. shouldn't it have screamed that he's a danger to himself and mostly others to a psych doctor? He said recently something about when he went last time (pretty recent) the doctor couldn't decide if he's manic, or depressed, and it stood out to me because WHAT THE FUCK?! How could anyone talk to him for a length of time, let alone a trained professional, and be ambivalent about his abnormal behavior??!

But as it's been pointed out recently in these threads, he apparently has enough wherewithal to look around as he screams into his phone about age phobia. He went from 10000 to 0 in a millisecond flat in that first USB interview, when he was confronted for screaming profanities around children for about an hour. But he was able to convince this guy that he's a perfectly normal 'doing a comedy bit' and was able to carry on to a congenial conclusion to the confrontation. I think his ability to go from 10000 to 0 in no time shown in the USB finally amazed even to Wernologists watching him for a while. Would someone having schizophrenic psychotic breaks or going through a manic phase in bipolar depression be able to exhibit this level of control?

After I saw posts pointing out how in his videos he seems to be talking to someone off screen, or it appeared that he was making a really big show of being on his phone, I noticed this especially in that video in the one Mexican restaurant (that he said he won't reveal the name of). He talks about how he goes to Motel 6 to get a really good shower, another usual Lucas brand of peacocking to the Zoomer baes he's really got his shit together, some more rambling... and right then the server comes to check on him and afterwards he says "Yeah so I'm just hopping around town, having to do my research" and goes on as if implying that all that talk before, about how he showers and can go to restaurants isn't a homeless man's ramblings but a distinguished professor who is traveling for work, which I felt was for the benefit of possibly listening servers or it snapped him out his ramblings and realized how it could come off and had to adjust. This surprised me, maybe because my expectations for Lucas are so low but because how much of a graceful save it was.

How could he have this kind of social understanding that talking about his ability to take showers and buy food has undesirable implications and cover it up so plausibly? Because I thought a big part of his personality is the hobo part where to him, eating a bag of candy off the ground is flexing instead of standard hobo behavior. When he happens to be in a hotel, he makes it to a point to repeat how he showers everyday and always brushes his teeth... he'll probably do laundry later. He says it all flippantly like it's such routine behavior for him but to everyone else, it's a painfully transparent attempt to hide his homelessness, which he doesn't realize because he's been living in the streets so long he's out of touch with normal human behavior, and doesn't realize most normal people don't repeatedly mention very basic hygiene habits. But that example in the Mexican restaurant seems to show he does

How come he understands that women don't want to be used for sex, but doesn't understand that it's much worse to try to use them for just their reproductive parts? Or how especially unappealing it is to females 18-24, which most people understand that if a girl got pregnant at that age, it was probably an accident and unwanted. And that it's a terrifying thing to be screaming at them. Like to me, that was one of the core personality idiosyncrasy that that defines Lucas, his complete and utter misunderstanding of females and relationships. But based on stuff about Suzanne or shared messages from girls he tries to control and threaten, it seems like he does understand SOME things, even more advanced elements of applying emotional abuse or manipulation

I think in the final USB episode, Lucas blurts out "You know I hate all of you" which I interpreted as implying that he had been pretending that he didn't know Goldaor was playing him so he could play him for food and his gf, and that he knows that all those boys he hangs out with aren't really his friends.. but immediately went "well not ALL of you.." because he didn't mean to let on that he's more aware than he is

Sorry for that rambling novel but all this to say, realizing that Lucas wasn't as dopey and inept as I thought had been troubling me.. for 2 reasons. 1. What a shock to my system that there was actually an iota of human intelligence and capability where here I was so certain that at most there was zero, and more likely that he's an active wild tard. And 2. That his escalation from just jerking off to random jailbait girls to messaging them to calling them.. to skulking around casinos, outside bars he's banned from, and college campuses is fucked up and a real threat. Shoutout to @klickitat for tagging the college in the recent YouTube videos. Hopefully he becomes made known to campus officials and is permanently banned
Interesting post, but I think you misinterpreted a couple of things. First of all, the cop that confronted him was ABSOLUTELY NOT fooled By Lucas's attempt to playoff his shouting as a comedy bit. Significantly, the cop was aware of Lucas, he knew Lucas had been forbidden from being in the park. Second of all, he cited Lucas a ticket for breaking that ban. Had he been convinced by what you saw as Lucas's smooth save, it's unlikely that he would have cited him this ticket.

Also: when Lucas is in a hotel room, and he mentions showering or doing laundry, I don't think he's doing that to try to hide the fact that he's homeless. I think Lucas mentions these things, because his concept of maturity is so stunted by his social isolation, that he genuinely thinks that showering and doing laundry makes him a mature man.

He's always commenting on his own maturity in a positive way, saying he's real husband material while other people are merely playing.

Or trying to patronize girls, calling them sweetheart and kitten, to try to set up the dynamic that he's the older more mature one.

It's sort of understandable when you think that his age, viewed through the schizo lens of his idea that everything older is positive, is one of the few benefits he has.

He's older, he's decided that that's good, so he's going to play up every positive trait associated with being old: having gray hair, maturity, Etc.

That one area where I DO agree with you is the interactions that he has with servers when he's in a restaurant.

I too noticed that Lucas had a tendency to try to normalize the insane crap he was saying when a server came around to fill up his water or his chips.

Lucas is very aware of trying to impress other people.

He desperately wants to be taken seriously, he desperately wants to be seen as a viable competitive male, as @wenttobermuda said.

And he's also hyper aware of women's attitude towards him, though he generally misinterprets politeness or any sort of notice as interest.

So if the server was a woman it's almost a guarantee that Lucas started modifying his conversation to try to present his normal General insane ramblings with the guise of "Lucas the genetics Professor" that we all find so f****** hilarious.
 
I never really thought about how Lucas would be addicted to his mania. That is a very astute observation. This is what keeps him going and not realizing he is just a shitty ragman who lives in a homeless shelter.

Someone earlier a while ago mentioned that Lucas did not want to take his medicine because they did not make him feel good. But it was brought up that mental health medicines aren't necessarily supposed to make you feel good, rather, they are to help you feel normal. And that is not always a good feeling. For someone like Lucas, it certainly is not.

When Lucas feels normal he realizes he is a fat, crazy, hobo. And he doesn't want to feel like that. When he is off his meds he is a college student, soon to be professor of telomeres. A master board game designer. And of course, a mature man who all the Gen Z Kweens should want. Let's not forget, he is a descendant of King Roy, who lived on a farm with 50 heads of cattle. And it will all be Lucas's soon. He is plenty good!

I wonder if he went to the hospital willingly or was dropped off by the police or medics?
 
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I never really thought about how Lucas would be addicted to his mania. That is a very astute observation. This is what keeps him going and not realizing his just a shitty ragman who lives in a homeless shelter.

Someone earlier a while ago mentioned that Lucas did not want to take his medicine because they did not make him feel good. But it was brought up that mental health medicines aren't necessarily supposed to make you feel good, rather, they are to help you feel normal. And that is not always a good feeling. For someone like Lucas, it certainly is not.

When Lucas feels normal he realizes he is a fat, crazy, hobo. And he doesn't want to feel like that. When he is off his meds he is a college student, soon to be professor of telomeres. A master board game designer. And of course, a mature man who all the Gen Z Kweens should want. Let's not forget, he is a descendant of King Roy, who lived on a farm with 50 heads of cattle. And it will all be Lucas's soon. He is plenty good!

I wonder if he went to the hospital willingly or was dropped off by the police or medics?

I heard part of the scoop on the grapevine. He first was told to leave after calling the nurse a slut, etc. and then all the staff "Trumpanzees" and "Classists", etc. Instead of leaving, he went and snuck into the line and tried to go upstairs to sleep. Well of course they caught him and another series of outbursts starting that Catholic Charities security showed up and manhandled him out. He is on a 30 day sanction.

So it was cold outside, so Lucas does what other hobos do in Spokane when they don't have a space, they run to the hospital and threaten suicide. This allows them to get into the New Frontier Evaluation and Treatment Center where they watch TV, stuff their face from a menu, sleep, and take meds all day. Since he has not reported on social media since last night, this is more than likely where he is, unless he volunteered to a stay at Eastern.
 
I never really thought about how Lucas would be addicted to his mania. That is a very astute observation. This is what keeps him going and not realizing he is just a shitty ragman who lives in a homeless shelter.

Someone earlier a while ago mentioned that Lucas did not want to take his medicine because they did not make him feel good. But it was brought up that mental health medicines aren't necessarily supposed to make you feel good, rather, they are to help you feel normal. And that is not always a good feeling. For someone like Lucas, it certainly is not.

When Lucas feels normal he realizes he is a fat, crazy, hobo. And he doesn't want to feel like that. When he is off his meds he is a college student, soon to be professor of telomeres. A master board game designer. And of course, a mature man who all the Gen Z Kweens should want. Let's not forget, he is a descendant of King Roy, who lived on a farm with 50 heads of cattle. And it will all be Lucas's soon. He is plenty good!

I wonder if he went to the hospital willingly or was dropped off by the police or medics?

It had to have been him being taken to the hospital by police. No way in hell he would willingly go for a psych evaluation on his own, let alone one that will inevitably require a 72 hour commitment which is normal for such situations. He lost his shit at a nurse and the shelter called the cops this time (probably because he scared her and because of what happened the last time that got him the boot so recently)
 
Poor Lucas. You just know he's going absolutely bonkers thinking about all the "christian sluts on slime" slutting it up at the bars tonight, one of their most crowded nights of the year no less. It's almost a pity he's cooped up. We'd surely be getting some quality chimp out content right now.
Lucas seems to be forgetting that 'good Christian girls' are taught to wait until marriage. And would most likely like to marry a 'good Christian boy'. Once again, it's not in the cards, Lucas.
 
Interesting post, but I think you misinterpreted a couple of things. First of all, the cop that confronted him was ABSOLUTELY NOT fooled By Lucas's attempt to playoff his shouting as a comedy bit. Significantly, the cop was aware of Lucas, he knew Lucas had been forbidden from being in the park. Second of all, he cited Lucas a ticket for breaking that ban. Had he been convinced by what you saw as Lucas's smooth save, it's unlikely that he would have cited him this ticket.

Also: when Lucas is in a hotel room, and he mentions showering or doing laundry, I don't think he's doing that to try to hide the fact that he's homeless. I think Lucas mentions these things, because his concept of maturity is so stunted by his social isolation, that he genuinely thinks that showering and doing laundry makes him a mature man.

He's always commenting on his own maturity in a positive way, saying he's real husband material while other people are merely playing.

Or trying to patronize girls, calling them sweetheart and kitten, to try to set up the dynamic that he's the older more mature one.

It's sort of understandable when you think that his age, viewed through the schizo lens of his idea that everything older is positive, is one of the few benefits he has.

He's older, he's decided that that's good, so he's going to play up every positive trait associated with being old: having gray hair, maturity, Etc.

That one area where I DO agree with you is the interactions that he has with servers when he's in a restaurant.

I too noticed that Lucas had a tendency to try to normalize the insane crap he was saying when a server came around to fill up his water or his chips.

Lucas is very aware of trying to impress other people.

He desperately wants to be taken seriously, he desperately wants to be seen as a viable competitive male, as @wenttobermuda said.

And he's also hyper aware of women's attitude towards him, though he generally misinterprets politeness or any sort of notice as interest.

So if the server was a woman it's almost a guarantee that Lucas started modifying his conversation to try to present his normal General insane ramblings with the guise of "Lucas the genetics Professor" that we all find so f****** hilarious.
Oops, I know my post was hard to follow - to clarify the confrontation I'm talking about is the guy in the very first episode .. some guy who was in the same area and he said that everyone, including children, could hear him screaming from all the way across the pond. I guess to me it stood out as a 'smooth' save because its the first time I've heard him interact with a person in public and I was astounded at how normal he sounded
 
I think the presence of schizophrenia unlikely and if I recall past events correctly, Lucas and his mother both confirmed that he was initially diagnosed or thought to be schizophrenic but that was later changed to bi-polar. That is a fairly common state of affairs, since the diagnostic criteria for both overlap and it takes time to differentiate and sort types of behavior. For example, the character of auditory and visual hallucinations that stem from mental health are really narrow and a really easy place to catch people malingering, none of it consistent with his behavior. If Lucas was schizoaffective (schizophrenia combined with a mood disorder like depression or bi-polar) I think we'd be listening to him talk about how classist flatbills cockblock him by forcing thoughts into his mind that make him act like a submissive ape whenever women were around or how his body and its behavior being under the control of someone else. If he was an honest paranoiac he'd probably already be dead or in some kind of long term custody, weed and a pathological paranoia is a pretty deadly combination.

I'm of the mind that Lucas just either exaggerates or completely fabricates stories to support whatever narrative has his obsession and then quickly internalizes his fiction as reality despite any obvious evidence to the contrary (i.e. the "bruise" from an assailant's bat being an obvious abrasion right on his fucking knee that literally every human being gets). That is kind of delusional thinking that you'd see from someone with unmedicated bi-polar and probably contributes to the "hands off" vibe I get from his treatment there on the West Coast. I'll explain what I mean by that.

Another facet of this kind of diagnostic analysis that isn't widely discussed is how the delusional thinking is presented. Honest to God schizophrenics are a hundred times more likeable to mental health teams because their delusions tend to be terrifying (and thus their behavior is understandable) and never really self-serving at the core. When the disease really starts to bloom and take over a person's world, there is almost always just a regular likeable person at the center of it trying to navigate a nightmare of compulsive pattern seeking.

Lucas' delusions are entirely constructed to benefit him in obvious ways and they lack real grandiosity of scope (like the entire observable world is actually an elaborate television show) in exchange for petty stories of persecution. People are unloving assholes who just don't like him because he is over 40 and poor, not because they are paid agents doing their job at the behest of someone else more powerful who's real motives are unclear but sinister. Because Lucas is just plain fucking stupid, he doesn't understand that his delusions come across to everybody as immediately self-serving who spends any time listening to him. Anyone who gets a clear picture of Lucas and his situation knows exactly why Lucas is invisible to women and they also understand that when he does catch their attention he creeps the fuck out of them.

The above (among other factors) makes Lucas an unattractive client an/or patient. Nobody really wants him in their program and nobody really wants to hear WTF he has to say in a therapeutic context. It is going to be wall-to-wall bullshit all orchestrated by him to support his idea that everything that ever happened to him was bad and intentionally done so to hurt him. I really confident that some kind of personality disorder code is on his file that isn't immediately obvious, but anyone familiar with the relative system would be able to see. He is probably deemed untreatable and is kept at arms length institutionally, so any treatment given to him will be minimal and/or mandatory by law. So if he isn't going to be housed in jail, prison, or other type of civil commitment, he'll be on the streets and the only ones helping him are going to be religious organizations who feel called to help society's unwanted by providing them with shelter, food, and hygiene. Or a fucking sperg with an internet show. Both.

This is why Lucas always comes back to social media, why he always finds a medium for him to express his thoughts, and why he keeps making his phone number public. He doesn't have friends, all he has is acquaintances who strictly limit the amount of time they will be in his presence, usually out of pity or a desire to score some weed or food. Lucas doesn't really "hang out" with people, I imagine for Lucas if someone briefly acknowledges his presence and then he stays within a certain proximity for a period of time, they "hung out". Hanging out with Lucas would more or less be exactly like what you heard on the Golden USB show, listening to Lucas either talking about his obsessions or steering the conversation back to his obsessions in the most clunky way.

Lucas for the most part is alone and will continue to be alone until he mercifully dies at some point in the future.
 
I heard part of the scoop on the grapevine. He first was told to leave after calling the nurse a slut, etc. and then all the staff "Trumpanzees" and "Classists", etc. Instead of leaving, he went and snuck into the line and tried to go upstairs to sleep. Well of course they caught him and another series of outbursts starting that Catholic Charities security showed up and manhandled him out. He is on a 30 day sanction.

So it was cold outside, so Lucas does what other hobos do in Spokane when they don't have a space, they run to the hospital and threaten suicide. This allows them to get into the New Frontier Evaluation and Treatment Center where they watch TV, stuff their face from a menu, sleep, and take meds all day. Since he has not reported on social media since last night, this is more than likely where he is, unless he volunteered to a stay at Eastern.
That sounds like a good time for Lucas. Minus the meds. Can the residents refuse the meds and get all the food and perks without the crazy meds?
 
He was acting like a dog that just does things randomly in a weird way when given a command it doesn't understand because it thinks thats what you want it to do. Lucas doesn't just dismiss and despise criticism of himself, he fundamentally doesn't understand it most of the time.
Honest to God schizophrenics are a hundred times more likeable to mental health teams because their delusions tend to be terrifying (and thus their behavior is understandable) and never really self-serving at the core. When the disease really starts to bloom and take over a person's world, there is almost always just a regular likeable person at the center of it trying to navigate a nightmare of compulsive pattern seeking.

Lucas' delusions are entirely constructed to benefit him in obvious ways and they lack real grandiosity of scope (like the entire observable world is actually an elaborate television show) in exchange for petty stories of persecution.
This was really interesting insight and made much more sense of his personality to me
 
I think the presence of schizophrenia unlikely and if I recall past events correctly, Lucas and his mother both confirmed that he was initially diagnosed or thought to be schizophrenic but that was later changed to bi-polar. That is a fairly common state of affairs, since the diagnostic criteria for both overlap and it takes time to differentiate and sort types of behavior. For example, the character of auditory and visual hallucinations that stem from mental health are really narrow and a really easy place to catch people malingering, none of it consistent with his behavior. If Lucas was schizoaffective (schizophrenia combined with a mood disorder like depression or bi-polar) I think we'd be listening to him talk about how classist flatbills cockblock him by forcing thoughts into his mind that make him act like a submissive ape whenever women were around or how his body and its behavior being under the control of someone else. If he was an honest paranoiac he'd probably already be dead or in some kind of long term custody, weed and a pathological paranoia is a pretty deadly combination.

I'm of the mind that Lucas just either exaggerates or completely fabricates stories to support whatever narrative has his obsession and then quickly internalizes his fiction as reality despite any obvious evidence to the contrary (i.e. the "bruise" from an assailant's bat being an obvious abrasion right on his fucking knee that literally every human being gets). That is kind of delusional thinking that you'd see from someone with unmedicated bi-polar and probably contributes to the "hands off" vibe I get from his treatment there on the West Coast. I'll explain what I mean by that.

Another facet of this kind of diagnostic analysis that isn't widely discussed is how the delusional thinking is presented. Honest to God schizophrenics are a hundred times more likeable to mental health teams because their delusions tend to be terrifying (and thus their behavior is understandable) and never really self-serving at the core. When the disease really starts to bloom and take over a person's world, there is almost always just a regular likeable person at the center of it trying to navigate a nightmare of compulsive pattern seeking.

Lucas' delusions are entirely constructed to benefit him in obvious ways and they lack real grandiosity of scope (like the entire observable world is actually an elaborate television show) in exchange for petty stories of persecution. People are unloving assholes who just don't like him because he is over 40 and poor, not because they are paid agents doing their job at the behest of someone else more powerful who's real motives are unclear but sinister. Because Lucas is just plain fucking stupid, he doesn't understand that his delusions come across to everybody as immediately self-serving who spends any time listening to him. Anyone who gets a clear picture of Lucas and his situation knows exactly why Lucas is invisible to women and they also understand that when he does catch their attention he creeps the fuck out of them.

The above (among other factors) makes Lucas an unattractive client an/or patient. Nobody really wants him in their program and nobody really wants to hear WTF he has to say in a therapeutic context. It is going to be wall-to-wall bullshit all orchestrated by him to support his idea that everything that ever happened to him was bad and intentionally done so to hurt him. I really confident that some kind of personality disorder code is on his file that isn't immediately obvious, but anyone familiar with the relative system would be able to see. He is probably deemed untreatable and is kept at arms length institutionally, so any treatment given to him will be minimal and/or mandatory by law. So if he isn't going to be housed in jail, prison, or other type of civil commitment, he'll be on the streets and the only ones helping him are going to be religious organizations who feel called to help society's unwanted by providing them with shelter, food, and hygiene. Or a fucking sperg with an internet show. Both.

This is why Lucas always comes back to social media, why he always finds a medium for him to express his thoughts, and why he keeps making his phone number public. He doesn't have friends, all he has is acquaintances who strictly limit the amount of time they will be in his presence, usually out of pity or a desire to score some weed or food. Lucas doesn't really "hang out" with people, I imagine for Lucas if someone briefly acknowledges his presence and then he stays within a certain proximity for a period of time, they "hung out". Hanging out with Lucas would more or less be exactly like what you heard on the Golden USB show, listening to Lucas either talking about his obsessions or steering the conversation back to his obsessions in the most clunky way.

Lucas for the most part is alone and will continue to be alone until he mercifully dies at some point in the future.

He admits to the bipolar now. When confronted with his and his mothers admission of schizophrenia he counters it with claiming he is schizoaffective, as if that is supposed to be a significant difference
 
He admits to the bipolar now. When confronted with his and his mothers admission of schizophrenia he counters it with claiming he is schizoaffective, as if that is supposed to be a significant difference
Schizophrenia is characterized by delusions, hallucinations, disorganized speech patterns and behavior, sometimes psychosis. There’s a couple other diagnostic criteria but it mostly involves lack of self care. Basically living in an entirely different world than we are.
Schizoaffective gives you all that fun stuff with the added bonus of mood cycling. There’s depressive type (cycling to depression and back, no mania) and bipolar type (mania is present).
 
I never really thought about how Lucas would be addicted to his mania. That is a very astute observation. This is what keeps him going and not realizing he is just a shitty ragman who lives in a homeless shelter.

Someone earlier a while ago mentioned that Lucas did not want to take his medicine because they did not make him feel good. But it was brought up that mental health medicines aren't necessarily supposed to make you feel good, rather, they are to help you feel normal. And that is not always a good feeling. For someone like Lucas, it certainly is not.

When Lucas feels normal he realizes he is a fat, crazy, hobo. And he doesn't want to feel like that. When he is off his meds he is a college student, soon to be professor of telomeres. A master board game designer. And of course, a mature man who all the Gen Z Kweens should want. Let's not forget, he is a descendant of King Roy, who lived on a farm with 50 heads of cattle. And it will all be Lucas's soon. He is plenty good!

I wonder if he went to the hospital willingly or was dropped off by the police or medics?
You are absolutely correct. I’m new to the wern world and I did observe that in some of his post institutional videos he’s just.....normal. A little slow and very boring, but normal. When he’s not manic he starts seeing himself as he is.
 
You are absolutely correct. I’m new to the wern world and I did observe that in some of his post institutional videos he’s just.....normal. A little slow and very boring, but normal. When he’s not manic he starts seeing himself as he is.

Normal until you realize that, even heavily medicated, he's still talking about wanting to fuck teenagers.

Here, have the same version of The Wern we saw these last few weeks with him talking about getting a doctorate (though he doesn't say in what), talking about how he only wants to go to college to meet women and probably won't have to pay back his loans, admitting he has bipolar, that he's diabetic, that he needs glasses (hmmmm short telomeres anyone?), how he'd be a good father because he's "nice to kids", and going through the same laundry list of idiocy he's been going through lately, only he's doped up to the gills on psych meds.

He's not "normal" on psych meds, he has the exact same thought processes, ideas, and desires when he's on meds, he's just not screaming about them, he's laying around like he's only half awake and mumbling about them instead.


That video was posted Feb 12, 2018, shortly after he got out of his last extended stay in the nuthouse. He even says in that one he's considered "gravely disabled".

The apartment he's in is the world's saddest looking studio that was a 6 month transitional house for people either just getting out of the psych ward or jail, then they were meant to learn How to Adult again before moving on to Big Boy Housing. Lucas never even made it that far, he just got moved into a worse version of what this apartment was (at least this one had its own bathroom) and was still in a place where he wasn't even allowed to have overnight guests.
 
From what I remember of the videos, he was far from normal. He was still just as much a creep/pedophile, he was just too bloated, sluggish, and slow witted to be able to act on anything beyond his sad little steampunk attempt. The only difference is he's more likely to listen to other people, and that's purely because be lacks the same energy to scream over them talking

But as said before, this would destroy his identity, and eventually he stops taking it and goes back to screaming incel when the reality of being Lucas Werner sinks in
You are absolutely correct. I’m new to the wern world and I did observe that in some of his post institutional videos he’s just.....normal. A little slow and very boring, but normal. When he’s not manic he starts seeing himself as he is.
Normal until you realize that, even heavily medicated, he's still talking about wanting to fuck teenagers.

Here, have the same version of The Wern we saw these last few weeks with him talking about getting a doctorate (though he doesn't say in what), talking about how he only wants to go to college to meet women and probably won't have to pay back his loans, admitting he has bipolar, that he's diabetic, that he needs glasses (hmmmm short telomeres anyone?), how he'd be a good father because he's "nice to kids", and going through the same laundry list of idiocy he's been going through lately, only he's doped up to the gills on psych meds.

He's not "normal" on psych meds, he has the exact same thought processes, ideas, and desires when he's on meds, he's just not screaming about them, he's laying around like he's only half awake and mumbling about them instead.


That video was posted Feb 12, 2018, shortly after he got out of his last extended stay in the nuthouse. He even says in that one he's considered "gravely disabled".

The apartment he's in is the world's saddest looking studio that was a 6 month transitional house for people either just getting out of the psych ward or jail, then they were meant to learn How to Adult again before moving on to Big Boy Housing. Lucas never even made it that far, he just got moved into a worse version of what this apartment was (at least this one had its own bathroom) and was still in a place where he wasn't even allowed to have overnight guests.
 
I've had people pull that shit on me before and, at this point, whenever some jackass tries it again my answer is, "Go ahead, then. It's not my problem."

Spoiler: They never do.

He must still be in the ER and not past intake if he's still got his phone.
Normal until you realize that, even heavily medicated, he's still talking about wanting to fuck teenagers.

Here, have the same version of The Wern we saw these last few weeks with him talking about getting a doctorate (though he doesn't say in what), talking about how he only wants to go to college to meet women and probably won't have to pay back his loans, admitting he has bipolar, that he's diabetic, that he needs glasses (hmmmm short telomeres anyone?), how he'd be a good father because he's "nice to kids", and going through the same laundry list of idiocy he's been going through lately, only he's doped up to the gills on psych meds.

He's not "normal" on psych meds, he has the exact same thought processes, ideas, and desires when he's on meds, he's just not screaming about them, he's laying around like he's only half awake and mumbling about them instead.


That video was posted Feb 12, 2018, shortly after he got out of his last extended stay in the nuthouse. He even says in that one he's considered "gravely disabled".

The apartment he's in is the world's saddest looking studio that was a 6 month transitional house for people either just getting out of the psych ward or jail, then they were meant to learn How to Adult again before moving on to Big Boy Housing. Lucas never even made it that far, he just got moved into a worse version of what this apartment was (at least this one had its own bathroom) and was still in a place where he wasn't even allowed to have overnight guests.
This vintage Wern is interesting for a lot of reasons, but I’d like to point out that one of the reasons he gives for why he’d be a good dad is that when a little girl comes up to him he says “Hi, sweetheart!” Recall his recent autistic screeds about how a man should always call a potential mate ‘honey, baby, or sweetheart.’
 
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