US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
This tweet couldn't be any more disingenuous if his staffers tried. Well connected...? You sure you wanna be saying those words right now, Big Guy?

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Biden or his staffers are really trying hard to pretend that Biden never was a Delaware senator before or that he only ever visits Pennsylvania for presidential elections. Let me ask this again as I did before with how theoretical voters must feel, but if Biden loves Pennsylvania so much and is proud to be from there then why did he not try to run for senator in that state instead of the cushy job he got in Delaware.
 
Biden or his staffers are really trying hard to pretend that Biden never was a Delaware senator before or that he only ever visits Pennsylvania for presidential elections. Let me ask this again as I did before with how theoretical voters must feel, but if Biden loves Pennsylvania so much and is proud to be from there then why did he not try to run for senator in that state instead of the cushy job he got in Delaware.
I wish Delaware would flip just to spite Biden for never coming there to campaign. I know it won't happen though.
 
Here’s a map I made of a possible Biden win:
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I’m still unsure about Pennsylvania going to Biden, but I can realistically see him taking Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and Iowa. That said, this situation would only happen assuming enough Democrats go out and vote on Election Day in addition to the early voting. Still though, I doubt Biden can achieve a landslide. As far as I’m aware, most of the states that went to Trump in 2016 look likely in going towards him in 2020.

Possible but unlikely, Trump's ahead in Michigan and Wisconsin in early mail/person voting, AZ is tied on what seems to be 98% mail voting, neither of that is good for Biden when the in-person vote is largely red.

As for PA? who the fuck knows, only numbers atm are mail-only, favoring dems, not mail+person like other states, with only 1/3 of the 2016 total PA turnout represented, and its 66D 23R.

Trick with PA now though is Reps won it with ~30k votes in 2016, but now there's a new 200k advantage in Republican registrations in PA since 2016, hypothetically if all the 2016 people turned up, republicans would have 230-240k more votes.

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Question is how many of those people will actually turn up on either side this time?

Edit: I completely thought I was in the election thread just now (it's all starting to blur) sooo yea how about that Sleepy Joe
 
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It's because while Biden has the obvious advantage in mail-ins and early voting, it is not meeting the typical expectations for Democrats getting out there votes. Add in the fact that Dems have depressed turnouts on ED already, plus the decline minority and youth votes because COVID fucked everything up (no college or church busing to voting stations), as well as it just being Biden, who does little to inspire but instead fearmongers. Trump and Republicans are catching up in the early votes and the tidal wave is still coming 11/3. There are not that many suburbs for dumb "decency-loving" Karens to run and vote for Joe. Hell, their husbands might be shy Trumps.

Anyways...

Show that evidence from the Election thread. I'd simply @ you, but your name is funky with the system.

This is basically correct. Biden is leading in early voting, but the problem is that he needs to lead by a lot, not a little, because Republicans by and large turn out on Election Day.

For example, here is Florida:


If you change it to VBM + IPEV on the bottom, you see that the gap in returned votes is 105k in favor of Democrats vs Republicans.

This is after an increase of 10k today, but this ignores two things: today was the final day for the Democrats' GOTV effort called Souls to the Polls, and red counties are closed to IPEV (in-person early voting) today and tomorrow. Dems usually get multiple times this amount they gained today. This is why they are extremely nervous.

Some Democrats are saying that this totally means Joe is leading by 500k plus votes, but this assumes that 100% of Dems are voting Biden, only a fraction of Republicans are voting Trump, and most Independents by a huge amount are voting Biden. This is because Biden would need something like a 500k advantage before Election Day to have be comfortable in a Florida win.

He does not have it. It's pure fantasy.

With the notable exception of Pennsylvania, Rs have been outperforming VBM + IPEV expectations, which likely spells doom for Democrats come Election Day, which is usually when Republicans actually turn out. Democrats, by and large, usually suffer from abysmal Election Day turnout.

This is why, based on historical outlook, Joe Biden is likely finished in Florida.
 
Tell that to suburban white woman.
They might like him now, but if Biden loses--I am not confident enough to say when--expect to hear the left adopt many of the right's talking points about him as they try to explain the loss. I saw the same thing happen among my lefty friends after Hillary lost. They decided ackshually she was the worst candidate possible, a soulless warmonger, base and power-hungry, willing to get in bed with any corporation that funneled enough money to her. Literally anyone would have been a better candidate, they said, but the Clinton machine rigged the primaries so she would be nominated. When these people turn on Joe and Kamala, they will be vicious. They will be even crueler than we are.
 
They might like him now, but if Biden loses--I am not confident enough to say when--expect to hear the left adopt many of the right's talking points about him as they try to explain the loss. I saw the same thing happen among my lefty friends after Hillary lost. They decided ackshually she was the worst candidate possible, a soulless warmonger, base and power-hungry, willing to get in bed with any corporation that funneled enough money to her. Literally anyone would have been a better candidate, they said, but the Clinton machine rigged the primaries so she would be nominated. When these people turn on Joe and Kamala, they will be vicious. They will be even crueler than we are.
And it's a very easy out for them, since from a progressive standpoint Biden/Harris pretty much is the absolute worst candidate they could've run. It'd be like the GOP running Cheney and Nikki Haley while they weakly try to repeat Trumpian talking points and Cheney tries to memoryhole the entire Iraq business while claiming he's totally America First.
 
It'd be like the GOP running Cheney and Nikki Haley while they weakly try to repeat Trumpian talking points and Cheney tries to memoryhole the entire Iraq business while claiming he's totally America First.

Been thinking for a while on what good example there'd be of a GOP version of Biden/Harris, I think you nailed it. It's a baffling thing for them to do and I don't think all the speculation in the world could come up with a definitive answer for the choice to run Biden unless there's DNC leaks. I can think of a few reasons not to run Tulsi (or nearly anyone else for that matter) but really they pretty much all fall short of the ROI for running Biden/Harris, the most unlikable candidates possible.
 
Possible but unlikely, Trump's ahead in Michigan and Wisconsin in early mail/person voting, AZ is tied on what seems to be 98% mail voting, neither of that is good for Biden when the in-person vote is largely red.

As for PA? who the fuck knows, only numbers atm are mail-only, favoring dems, not mail+person like other states, with only 1/3 of the 2016 total PA turnout represented, and its 66D 23R.

Trick with PA now though is Reps won it with ~30k votes in 2016, but now there's a new 200k advantage in Republican registrations in PA since 2016, hypothetically if all the 2016 people turned up, republicans would have 230-240k more votes.

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Question is how many of those people will actually turn up on either side this time?

Edit: I completely thought I was in the election thread just now (it's all starting to blur) sooo yea how about that Sleepy Joe
Just throwing this out there, theres a very good chance that the 200k+ republican voter registration gains were prom people who had already voted Trump in the past and now have changed their party registration. It's highly unlikely 200k brand new people who have never voted registered to vote. I still think Trump wins Penn just because I'm sure a portion of that 200k new registered republicans represent more people than just people who had voted before for Trump but werent registered as republicans. Also, that's just 200k people who took the time to realign themselves. If 200k people in Penn will do that, there are more people who will vote for Trump that won't register as republican but will vote for him anyway, dems and independents.
 
I'm just amazed at how much Joe Biden actually manages to shoot himself in the foot, and then shoot himself in the other one. But this is like launching a tactical nuke on yourself.

Seriously, the DNC couldn't throw up a better frontman!? Unless the whole plan was to fold on this hand and hedge their bets on a farther left stable that might come around in a few years.
If I were to guess they probably couldn’t. We’re hiting the point where the candidates under their control coming in have had nothing but their propaganda exposed to them due to the left’s monolithic control of media and academia; and it appears to have done nasty things to the current crop. The new candidates can’t keep control of an argument and cannot do long term strategy. The new base is outwardly psychotic and childlike. Sure both are easy to control, but it’s better if you don’t need to do it constantly. They put forward the old, demented, corrupt little shit because they need to figure out how to moderate or quiet the people they bred to act like this before it can’t be walked back.
 
Bernie's rallies had more turnout than this. This looks like some old guy running in a small town. But he's running for PRESIDENT.

Let me clarify: when Bernie was running for President.

Hell: let me show a better example:

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Hillary had a much bigger turnout.
I feel the biggest downfall for the Dem's was not only the piss poor candidate, but the fear mongering of the virus. Any supporters have to be fearful of an invisible enemy 24/7, and mail in voting involves getting a stamp in 2020, or dropping it off in person... Which puts the would-be Biden supporter at risk of catching asian aids. They'd be alot happier on the Trump train. It's always a party at the rallies, and im excited to bs in line tomorrow with people not stuck at home on twitter waiting for the RWDS to come get them.
 
Holding both houses of congress can essentially invalidate most of what a president can do, as we saw with Obama, so even if Trump wins if the Republicans lose the senate then they can kiss any hope of avoiding instant impeachment with charges goodbye,

They may be able to impeach Trump in the House, but a conviction in the Senate requires 67 votes. There is absolutely no way that the Republicans are going to lose 20 Senate seats. I think it's going to be a long time before either party ever has that sort of majority in the Senate. The Democrats had that in 2008 and 2009, IIRC, but the face of American politics has changed enormously since then, hasn't it?
 
Here’s a map I made of a possible Biden win:
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I’m still unsure about Pennsylvania going to Biden, but I can realistically see him taking Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and Iowa. That said, this situation would only happen assuming enough Democrats go out and vote on Election Day in addition to the early voting. Still though, I doubt Biden can achieve a landslide. As far as I’m aware, most of the states that went to Trump in 2016 look likely in going towards him in 2020.
The actual commie msm polls put Trump at +9 in Iowa as of yesterday. Heaven only knows what the real polling looks like if they are admiting that.
 
If I were to guess they probably couldn’t. We’re hiting the point where the candidates under their control coming in have had nothing but their propaganda exposed to them due to the left’s monolithic control of media and academia; and it appears to have done nasty things to the current crop. The new candidates can’t keep control of an argument and cannot do long term strategy. The new base is outwardly psychotic and childlike. Sure both are easy to control, but it’s better if you don’t need to do it constantly. They put forward the old, demented, corrupt little shit because they need to figure out how to moderate or quiet the people they bred to act like this before it can’t be walked back.

Interesting take, my theory is that they're putting up Joe because they're at a crossroads where they want to purge all the old establishment types and replace them with far left quasi-communist/Trotskyist types. Honestly they're saying Pennsylvania and Arizona, of ALL places, is going 52 for Joe or whatever. Yeah, right, while there are good arguments against Donald Trump I honestly don't believe he's pissed people off enough to make them want a senile segregationist gaffe machine with the IQ of a potato in his place.

And one more thing...if somehow Joe Biden wins, it'll prove that the DNC doesn't even have to put anyone decent in the hot seat anymore. They could nominate a bag of dog chow for president and people would mindlessly pull the lever for the bag, all while rubber stamping anything and everything the Far Left could possibly want...but at what cost?
 
I want an unexpected Hillary victory.

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She deserves it.
That would make this the strangest timeline.
Been thinking for a while on what good example there'd be of a GOP version of Biden/Harris, I think you nailed it. It's a baffling thing for them to do and I don't think all the speculation in the world could come up with a definitive answer for the choice to run Biden unless there's DNC leaks. I can think of a few reasons not to run Tulsi (or nearly anyone else for that matter) but really they pretty much all fall short of the ROI for running Biden/Harris, the most unlikable candidates possible.
Imo it boils down to they’d rather lose with the right candidates than win with the wrong ones.
 
Middle class suburban white women are probably the only people that I see genuinely liking Biden. They like that he sounds live every stereotype a politician can tick.

Sounds like he's got the NPC vote on lockdown, but few care of the opinions of Karens and soccer moms. I don't know a single person who actually likes Biden outside of maybe my parents, but they would probably vote for a loaded dumpster if it had a donkey sticker on it.
 
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