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I thought donal would listen to him. Ethan did message him and tried to get him to pay me, but donal didn't even listen to EVS when he said to pay me something reasonable. Instead donal stole the money.
Dude, if you are serious about your writing, do three things right now:
1) Seek a day job and work for a living.
2) Self edit and publish your novels (or give them away for free in exchange for mail list signups and/or generating a following on wattpad or something) and work on your writing skills.
3) Ignore the whole Comicsgate crowd, work on your novels/comics and use your platform to engage readers that may want to pay for your books.

@Fathead screwed both of you up and should better pay your share down the line, but bitching about spilled milk gets you nothing but embarassment. So man up and work on the projects that may pay you something.
 
Dude, if you are serious about your writing, do three things right now:
1) Seek a day job and work for a living.
2) Self edit and publish your novels (or give them away for free in exchange for mail list signups and/or generating a following on wattpad or something) and work on your writing skills.
3) Ignore the whole Comicsgate crowd, work on your novels/comics and use your platform to engage readers that may want to pay for your books.

@Fathead screwed both of you up and should better pay your share down the line, but bitching about spilled milk gets you nothing but embarassment. So man up and work on the projects that may pay you something.
1. I've had a job since September.
2. I have 1,020ish subs on my newsletter.
3. Good point.
 
I believe you. I believe Donal owes you some money. I just think kiwi farms is a bad place to arbitrate a business deal.

It really is difficult to understand. It's a fucking comic book. Put it on your resume as running a successful 40k dollar crowdfund campaign. File a suit in small claims against Donal personally since he's too dumb to create an LLC. None of this needed to be public. You come across as a massive sperg and no one is going to want to do business with you because God forbid something doesn't go according to plan and you chimp out.

What the hell is Ethan Van Sciver supposed to do? Its not his campaign. It's your problem not his. You're asking a guy who makes millions and has his own customer service nightmares to deal with to get involved in something that is extremely small time and autistic. Do you want him to cut off Donal from appearing on his show because he didn't pay you? I'm having a hard time figuring out how EVS is supposed to solve this.
What are you talking about? this is entertaining as hell.

I hope Hut never changes!....

Well, Hut's gotta be Hut. If he changed it wouldn't be the same. Far be it from me to keep a young calf from becoming a prized cow!

That's CG in a nutshell.

I always cheer when one of these moocows lovely, well adjusted humans makes the commitment to turn themselves around. But hope, well. That's another beast....
 
ClownfishTV and various Youtubers vlogged about DC comics who keep digging their own grave. Wanting to be the new Scholastic is a very very bad idea.


Raging Golden Eagle

Western comics are getting more and more "childish", at the same time as kids are switching to manga specifically because it doesn't treat them like children!
 
ClownfishTV and various Youtubers vlogged about DC comics who keep digging their own grave. Wanting to be the new Scholastic is a very very bad idea.
What the fuck is that image of superman? The average manga artstyle might be dime a dozen, overly simplistic garbage but it doesn't look like ass (ymmv). Why would anyone who has reached reading age would want to read and look at that instead of picking up some generic shonen?
 
What the fuck is that image of superman? The average manga artstyle might be dime a dozen, overly simplistic garbage but it doesn't look like ass (ymmv). Why would anyone who has reached reading age would want to read and look at that instead of picking up some generic shonen?

Unfortunately, there's one exception to the rules, it's the SJWs who want to read a generic Superman shonen.
 
What the fuck is that image of superman?
To be fair that is Bizarro as you can see by the backwards "S". Though it's certainly a long way down from just 10 years ago.
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Friendly reminder today (november 2nd) would have been Steve Ditko's 93rd birthday. If you haven't read his essays on the industry and fandom, go do so! It will give you a new perspective on comics.
 
11/02/2020 - NASSER RABADI - DRAMA & COMICS LIVE CHAT!



This stream starts innocently enough. A solitary Nasser, having some free time, figures he'll get his friend Skinny/Matthew Vealey's crowdfund Otis Stein #1 up from to 88 backers to the optimistic goal of 100. Otis Stein looks like a credible work, an underground horror comic that has a borderline expressionist art style. The book is funded, the art is complete, the prices are competitively low ($6 minimum) and the crowdfund abstract looks very well put together (since there's no InDemand there's no way you can order should you be interested). It should be very appealing to possible backers, but Skinny's promotional tours on Fan Advocacy Network, Tim Lim', Comic Book Hut and Lorenzo Sleezestacks' programs have left him at around 88 backers all the same. Nasser thinks something is not right about this, and since he considers Skinny a friend, is holding this impromptu stream to get his crowdfund.

At the start, the stream is almost totally vacant, recreational troll "Mecha McCheese" alone in the chat and more interested in shittalking Donal and Nick Rekeita than the book, which Nasser quickly joins in on. It might have gone like this indefinitely had Skinny himself not joined the show, to sell his comic and express his dissatisfaction with Comicsgate's failures in the past. In factt, hed be happy to get it over that 100 backer count

At around an hour and five minutes in, Nasser is ruminating over "some weirdo named Testefy" who was haranguing to go on his show to "make it less boring". Skinny, playing coy, knows a bit more about all this and starts filling Nasser in about wristband and coozie lore and it was on this very subject that two unexpected guests appear in the chat.

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The topic of unwanted guests is quickly tossed aside as Nasser rolls out the welcome mat for Jon Malin and Frog, much to Skinny's displeasure. In the interest of ending drama, Nasser would be delighted if Frog and Jon Malin joined his show. Normally Frog likes to sneak in to Nasser streams to taunt and torment him outside the watchful eyes of Comicsgate at large, not unlike many other secret proclivities Frog is accused of but he, out of what I'm guessing is friendship and generosity, has decided to include Malin in on this rich source of salt and nectar.

At around 1:21:00, Malin is the first to join, immediately changing the subject to his victory over Dan Fraga in a recent drawing contest - the judges siding with Malin 5/6 (the viewers voted Dan Fraga the winner at ~96/152), Skinny's campaign is put on the backburner as Malin celebrates by complaining about the biased judges, the dismissive fans and upstart new talent that prevent him from receiving his due. Which as the contest winner, he received anyway, but that's merely a technicality. It's when Malin discusses his commissioning of a championship belt to wear over his shoulder while livestreaming that Frog joins to lend Malin moral support. He also introduces himself to Skinny and asks the audience if they, as as group, can get Otis Stein #1 up to 100 backers?
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Now, unbeknownst to Frog or Malin, they have met Skinny in the past, here inquiring about pizza parlor shenanigans before getting thrown off for asking TUG about his wife's dickpic collection. Not to mention the golden baptismal of Comicsgate Jesus Ya Boi Zack's seminal work "Jawbreakers" that was uploaded to twitter (Vealey's art recreated here as Piss Zack by artist M. Dongs). Suffice to say, Skinny is a man who boasts ironclad "Anti-CG" credentials, though deciding to hide his power level in this sudden and unfamiliar environment in what was supposed to be a Nasser shill stream. Frog even goes so far as to back it at the original art tier.

Frog starts warming up his salesman skills as he goes through Otis Stein' product, mixed with jabs at Nasser's poverty while Nasser fumbles with screen sharing.. Skinny goes through his sales pitch, including side pieces like pins, black light posters and shot glasses, and Frog goes on that on the subject of victory and on the eve of this momentous election, he and Jon Malin want to bring everyone back in to Comicsgate.

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(Frog's answer "Total apathy")

It's at this point, at about 1:45:00 that the Etsies start to trickle in, first a few and then by the dozen. To give a Cliff's Notes on all this, Etsy Boys were some of the early funders of Otis Stein as an olive branch, a show of solidarity as well as possibly real interest in the comic. This tenuous relationship was dashed though when "Pink Rage Ape"/Wiggle Wiggle spammed a meme of Mecha McCheese appearing to fellate an endowed shirtless pot-bellied man behind a backyard fence all over Twitter, a regular occurrence with Wiggle discourse. Now, the story behind why they're fighting is long and not exactly germane to "Comicsgate" discussion, but the end result was Skinny going out to find the customers responsible and forcing them to take a refund, taking a stand that he'll refuse service to customers that behave in such a way. As a group with origins based in "customer advocacy", the idea of a creator running a refund campaign against them left the Etsy boys confused and, dare I say, more than a little intrigued...

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Discussion then drifts towards something all parties are interested in - Liam. Jon wants to know why Liam hates Nasser more than they hate Nasser. Nasser says he doesn't know, but recounts the various accusations of poaching, sabotage and gatekeeping leveled at Nasser from the Orange Koala. Malin says the idea of Nasser telling him who could go on his show is ridiculous and never happened. But that does sound like something someone under Nasser's thumb would say.

At two hours in, Frog and Malin plea with the audience to back Otis Stein #1, saying that this comic would reach five figures minimum if they were with Comicsgate and that they "call upon Anti-Comicsgate to put their money where their mouth is and fund this book". But alas, they can't or worse... they won't. The two Comicsgate Lords press the argument, describing "Anti-Comicsgate" as crabs in a bucket, but Nasser need not share their fate of mutual failure and hatred. If he would let the Good News of Comicsgate enter his heart once again, if he would declare himself Comicsgate once more, even a wretch like Nasser could be saved.





Young Rabadi says he doesn't feel that he's part of a group, either anti or CG. But Frog reassures him that Comicsgate isn't a group. It's a movement, a sentiment, a reaction, a force, and either you are swept within its currents and eddies or you are not. "By that reasoning", Nasser says, "we are all Comicsgate". Frog gleefully agrees and smucklingly invites anyone who hates him or Jon Malin to prove his statements about Anti-CG wrong by supporting Skinny and Otis Stein. Frog goes so far as to say if Nasser had not left Comicsgate, he'd be making six figures. I remember Nasser leaving under different terms, but this doesn't stop Frog as he calls on Nasser to tell these people who egg him on but keep their wallets closed, these dirtworms, to "fuck off forever", to reject the road of anti-CG penury and to cross into the light.. Who, other then him and some guys on Kiwi farms, came to Nasser's aid in his moment of need?

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Mecha McCheese, surrounded by multiple factions that mostly hate and despise him, ignores everything going on to take aim at the most worthy target - Charlie's London, arguing that any movement that has Charlie in it does not deserve to exist. Mecha is an individual who doesn't believe in group association, defining himself more anti-Charlie's London than anything approaching "CG" or "Anti-CG".

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Meanwhile Jon Malin gives an impassioned speech about his personal experiences about the poverty of the people working in independent comics and his time in Image Comics. Nobody makes enough to live making independent comics, everyone except the people at the top have to work second jobs. Don't listen to the worms and the crabs who want to keep you in the bucket - there's only way of realizing the dream, and that's through Comicsgate.


And with that we leave with the re-comicsgated Nasser.
 
To add to the excellent Dongs report above, there was another recent instance of this strange magnetic pole shift occurring in CG at the moment: I got tipped off to a very attractive, ostensibly CG project by Mike S Miller of all people. On one of his recent streams, he showed this IndieGoGo project, Thomas Morya, which Miller believes to be a Comicsgate book, possibly due to its creator giving EVS a loving peck on the ring at the bottom of the page - 'HUGE fan of Ethan Van Sciver'.' Such a disclaimer would surely function as a signal to the anti-CG demographic that this particular project is not one for them to be getting behind, the way they did for the Otis Stein comic.

Nevertheless, Miller saw fit to look past creator Stefani Rennee's worship of a frickin' sociopath, and enthusiastically promoted his Morya comic on stream as a true diamond in the CG rough, apparently overlooked by the drooling simpleton paypig cultists of EVS-CG, who shut off their brains and blindly throw their money in whichever direction the Pie Man points.

And to be sure, Mike is right that the project looks quite fabulous - significantly higher-level and better-looking than the aforementioned Otis Stein, which has now been revealed by Inspector Dongs to be a vociferously anti-CG comic by a prank-calling CAPS hater, whom Ethan and Malin foolishly threw their own promotional weight behind on Nasser's stream.

So here we are: Smiller is promoting a CG book, while Ethan Von Malin promotes an anti-CG book. Truly the lion has laid down with the lamb, the left shoe is on the right foot and vice versa, and the end of days must surely soon be upon us.
 
I remember Nasser leaving under different terms, but this doesn't stop Frog as he calls on Nasser to tell these people who egg him on but keep their wallets closed, these dirtworms, to "fuck off forever", to reject the road of anti-CG penury and to cross into the light

Wasn't Nasser kicked out of Comicsgate after TUG (falsely) accused him of making fun of TUG's wife miscarriage? Didn't Ethan turn his back on Nasser after this? I'm abit confused about who these 'dirtworms' are Ethan mentions, is he saying that Doug TenNapel convinced Nasser to leave Comicsgate?
 
Wasn't Nasser kicked out of Comicsgate after TUG (falsely) accused him of making fun of TUG's wife miscarriage? Didn't Ethan turn his back on Nasser after this? I'm abit confused about who these 'dirtworms' are Ethan mentions, is he saying that Doug TenNapel convinced Nasser to leave Comicsgate?
There were a number of things. All of what you mentioned happened but the most damaging (and factual) I'd say was the Jon Malin DM incident when Nasser got into some dumb twitter argument about page rates (I forget what specifically) that Nasser resolved by revealing Malin's Peter Gilmore's default charge rates for work, crippling his ability to negotiate pay. Jon Malin was rather vocal about that one. The last straw though was when Nasser decided to start to rock a Cherry emoji 🍒 in his twitter handle denoting his allegiance to MCTV. Sensing disloyalty, it was around that point where Frog wasn't very receptive to any defense Nasser could muster, even against TUG's usual evidence-free histrionics to make it all about himself. Or to 'correcting the record' when Nasser's edgelord jokes became repeated as facts.

To me, Nasser is a case example of a beginner who needed mentoring (both professional and life in general) in an environment where the elders weren't very interested in teaching and Nasser wasn't very interested in learning.

Edit: Some inaccuracies helpfully corrected by Nasser
 
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There were a number of things. All those things happened but the most damaging (and factual) I'd say was the Jon Malin DM incident when Nasser and Malin got into some dumb twitter argument about page rates that Nasser resolved by revealing Malin's default charge rates for work, crippling his ability to negotiate pay. Jon was rather sore about that one. The last straw though was when Nasser decided to start to rock a Cherry emoji 🍒 in his twitter handle denoting his allegiance to MCTV. It was around there. At that point Frog wasn't very receptive to any defense Nasser could muster, even against TUG's usual evidence-free histrionics to make it all about himself. Or to 'correcting the record' when Nasser's edgelord jokes became repeated as facts.

To me, Nasser is a case example of a beginner who needed mentoring (both professional and life in general) in an environment where the elders weren't very interested in teaching and Nasser wasn't very interested in learning.

So was Nasser pushed or did he walk away? Because from that stream it seems Ethan is saying Nasser walked away and it's his fault he's missing out on all that CG money. But I though Nasser was kicked out of Comicsgate because most of CG are still very hostile to him judging from Nasser's appearance on a recent Oz show
 
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11/02/2020 - NASSER RABADI - DRAMA & COMICS LIVE CHAT!



This stream starts innocently enough. A solitary Nasser, having some free time, figures he'll get his friend Skinny/Matthew Vealey's crowdfund Otis Stein #1 up from to 88 backers to the optimistic goal of 100. Otis Stein looks like a credible work, an underground horror comic that has a borderline expressionist art style. The book is funded, the art is complete, the prices are competitively low ($6 minimum) and the crowdfund abstract looks very well put together (since there's no InDemand there's no way you can order should you be interested). It should be very appealing to possible backers, but Skinny's promotional tours on Fan Advocacy Network, Tim Lim', Comic Book Hut and Lorenzo Sleezestacks' programs have left him at around 88 backers all the same. Nasser thinks something is not right about this, and since he considers Skinny a friend, is holding this impromptu stream to get his crowdfund.

At the start, the stream is almost totally vacant, recreational troll "Mecha McCheese" alone in the chat and more interested in shittalking Donal and Nick Rekeita than the book, which Nasser quickly joins in on. It might have gone like this indefinitely had Skinny himself not joined the show, to sell his comic and express his dissatisfaction with Comicsgate's failures in the past. In factt, hed be happy to get it over that 100 backer count

At around an hour and five minutes in, Nasser is ruminating over "some weirdo named Testefy" who was haranguing to go on his show to "make it less boring". Skinny, playing coy, knows a bit more about all this and starts filling Nasser in about wristband and coozie lore and it was on this very subject that two unexpected guests appear in the chat.

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The topic of unwanted guests is quickly tossed aside as Nasser rolls out the welcome mat for Jon Malin and Frog, much to Skinny's displeasure. In the interest of ending drama, Nasser would be delighted if Frog and Jon Malin joined his show. Normally Frog likes to sneak in to Nasser streams to taunt and torment him outside the watchful eyes of Comicsgate at large, not unlike many other secret proclivities Frog is accused of but he, out of what I'm guessing is friendship and generosity, has decided to include Malin in on this rich source of salt and nectar.

At around 1:21:00, Malin is the first to join, immediately changing the subject to his victory over Dan Fraga in a recent drawing contest - the judges siding with Malin 5/6 (the viewers voted Dan Fraga the winner at ~96/152), Skinny's campaign is put on the backburner as Malin celebrates by complaining about the biased judges, the dismissive fans and upstart new talent that prevent him from receiving his due. Which as the contest winner, he received anyway, but that's merely a technicality. It's when Malin discusses his commissioning of a championship belt to wear over his shoulder while livestreaming that Frog joins to lend Malin moral support. He also introduces himself to Skinny and asks the audience if they, as as group, can get Otis Stein #1 up to 100 backers?

Now, unbeknownst to Frog or Malin, they have met Skinny in the past, here inquiring about pizza parlor shenanigans before getting thrown off for asking TUG about his wife's dickpic collection. Not to mention the golden baptismal of Comicsgate Jesus Ya Boi Zack's seminal work "Jawbreakers" that was uploaded to twitter (Vealey's art recreated here as Piss Zack by artist M. Dongs). Suffice to say, Skinny is a man who boasts ironclad "Anti-CG" credentials, though deciding to hide his power level in this sudden and unfamiliar environment in what was supposed to be a Nasser shill stream. Frog even goes so far as to back it at the original art tier.

Frog starts warming up his salesman skills as he goes through Otis Stein' product, mixed with jabs at Nasser's poverty while Nasser fumbles with screen sharing.. Skinny goes through his sales pitch, including side pieces like pins, black light posters and shot glasses, and Frog goes on that on the subject of victory and on the eve of this momentous election, he and Jon Malin want to bring everyone back in to Comicsgate.

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(Frog's answer "Total apathy")

It's at this point, at about 1:45:00 that the Etsies start to trickle in, first a few and then by the dozen. To give a Cliff's Notes on all this, Etsy Boys were some of the early funders of Otis Stein as an olive branch, a show of solidarity as well as possibly real interest in the comic. This tenuous relationship was dashed though when "Pink Rage Ape"/Wiggle Wiggle spammed a meme of Mecha McCheese appearing to fellate an endowed shirtless pot-bellied man behind a backyard fence all over Twitter, a regular occurrence with Wiggle discourse. Now, the story behind why they're fighting is long and not exactly germane to "Comicsgate" discussion, but the end result was Skinny going out to find the customers responsible and forcing them to take a refund, taking a stand that he'll refuse service to customers that behave in such a way. As a group with origins based in "customer advocacy", the idea of a creator running a refund campaign against them left the Etsy boys confused and, dare I say, more than a little intrigued...

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Discussion then drifts towards something all parties are interested in - Liam. Jon wants to know why Liam hates Nasser more than they hate Nasser. Nasser says he doesn't know, but recounts the various accusations of poaching, sabotage and gatekeeping leveled at Nasser from the Orange Koala. Malin says the idea of Nasser telling him who could go on his show is ridiculous and never happened. But that does sound like something someone under Nasser's thumb would say.

At two hours in, Frog and Malin plea with the audience to back Otis Stein #1, saying that this comic would reach five figures minimum if they were with Comicsgate and that they "call upon Anti-Comicsgate to put their money where their mouth is and fund this book". But alas, they can't or worse... they won't. The two Comicsgate Lords press the argument, describing "Anti-Comicsgate" as crabs in a bucket, but Nasser need not share their fate of mutual failure and hatred. If he would let the Good News of Comicsgate enter his heart once again, if he would declare himself Comicsgate once more, even a wretch like Nasser could be saved.

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Young Rabadi says he doesn't feel that he's part of a group, either anti or CG. But Frog reassures him that Comicsgate isn't a group. It's a movement, a sentiment, a reaction, a force, and either you are swept within its currents and eddies or you are not. "By that reasoning", Nasser says, "we are all Comicsgate". Frog gleefully agrees and smucklingly invites anyone who hates him or Jon Malin to prove his statements about Anti-CG wrong by supporting Skinny and Otis Stein. Frog goes so far as to say if Nasser had not left Comicsgate, he'd be making six figures. I remember Nasser leaving under different terms, but this doesn't stop Frog as he calls on Nasser to tell these people who egg him on but keep their wallets closed, these dirtworms, to "fuck off forever", to reject the road of anti-CG penury and to cross into the light.. Who, other then him and some guys on Kiwi farms, came to Nasser's aid in his moment of need?

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Mecha McCheese, surrounded by multiple factions that mostly hate and despise him, ignores everything going on to take aim at the most worthy target - Charlie's London, arguing that any movement that has Charlie in it does not deserve to exist. Mecha is an individual who doesn't believe in group association, defining himself more anti-Charlie's London than anything approaching "CG" or "Anti-CG".

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Meanwhile Jon Malin gives an impassioned speech about his personal experiences about the poverty of the people working in independent comics and his time in Image Comics. Nobody makes enough to live making independent comics, everyone except the people at the top have to work second jobs. Don't listen to the worms and the crabs who want to keep you in the bucket - there's only way of realizing the dream, and that's through Comicsgate.


And with that we leave with the re-comicsgated Nasser.
There's actually a little aftermath to this stream: Doug TenNapel called me yesterday to inform me he blocked me on Twitter after @FROG called him a "dirtworm", and said I needed to "defend him" and that he'd "do it for me", but I've already defended Doug a couple times, and it's not my job to defend him. It's also not my job to get into senseless arguments that aren't going to change anyone's mind.

He says he saw all this from the Hut's Nasser Derangement Syndrome videos, and then he said something about the "kiss the ring" dm, which I told him was about getting help against donal. Then Doug, who has sold his tv rights for millions of dollars and has had a very, very successful career, goes on to tell the guy with nothing that "IT'S ONLY $5,000 HE OWES YOU, THAT'S NOTHING!"

It was very strange. Also, by his own logic, he should've said something about donal stealing from me, but he has never said one word about it...

Wasn't Nasser kicked out of Comicsgate after TUG (falsely) accused him of making fun of TUG's wife miscarriage? Didn't Ethan turn his back on Nasser after this? I'm abit confused about who these 'dirtworms' are Ethan mentions, is he saying that Doug TenNapel convinced Nasser to leave Comicsgate?
Yes, it was the miscarriage lie. After I made a private video about why I was leaving comics--donal stealing from me, tug and yf getting Peter Gilmore to quit our book--everybody started to run with this obviously fake lie that I easily disproved, but nobody ever apologized for it and kept spreading it.
There were a number of things. All of what you mentioned happened but the most damaging (and factual) I'd say was the Jon Malin DM incident when Nasser and Malin got into some dumb twitter argument about page rates (I forget what specifically) that Nasser resolved by revealing Malin's default charge rates for work, crippling his ability to negotiate pay. Jon was rather sore about that one. The last straw though was when Nasser decided to start to rock a Cherry emoji 🍒 in his twitter handle denoting his allegiance to MCTV. Sensing disloyalty, it was around that point where Frog wasn't very receptive to any defense Nasser could muster, even against TUG's usual evidence-free histrionics to make it all about himself. Or to 'correcting the record' when Nasser's edgelord jokes became repeated as facts.

To me, Nasser is a case example of a beginner who needed mentoring (both professional and life in general) in an environment where the elders weren't very interested in teaching and Nasser wasn't very interested in learning.
It wasn't Malin's rate, it was Peter's rate, when I said Peter was asking for $12,300 for a book he was already doing for back end. He asked this because yf and tug told him there was no money to be made working with me.

As far as the emoji, I had that cherry in there for a long time and nobody noticed--just like they don't notice there's a FROG there now and nobody has said anything.
So was Nasser pushed or did he walk away? Because from that stream it seems Ethan is saying Nasser walked away and it's his fault he's missing out on all that CG money. But I though Nasser was kicked out of Comicsgate because most of CG are still very hostile to him judging from Nasser's appearance on a recent Oz show
I wanted to just walk away because of my books getting interfered with, but after I made that video, I was kicked.
 
People would find it much easier ti forgive Nasser if he looked like this
 

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There's actually a little aftermath to this stream: Doug TenNapel called me yesterday to inform me he blocked me on Twitter after @FROG called him a "dirtworm", and said I needed to "defend him" and that he'd "do it for me", but I've already defended Doug a couple times, and it's not my job to defend him. It's also not my job to get into senseless arguments that aren't going to change anyone's mind.

He says he saw all this from the Hut's Nasser Derangement Syndrome videos, and then he said something about the "kiss the ring" dm, which I told him was about getting help against donal. Then Doug, who has sold his tv rights for millions of dollars and has had a very, very successful career, goes on to tell the guy with nothing that "IT'S ONLY $5,000 HE OWES YOU, THAT'S NOTHING!"

It was very strange. Also, by his own logic, he should've said something about donal stealing from me, but he has never said one word about it...


Yes, it was the miscarriage lie. After I made a private video about why I was leaving comics--donal stealing from me, tug and yf getting Peter Gilmore to quit our book--everybody started to run with this obviously fake lie that I easily disproved, but nobody ever apologized for it and kept spreading it.

It wasn't Malin's rate, it was Peter's rate, when I said Peter was asking for $12,300 for a book he was already doing for back end. He asked this because yf and tug told him there was no money to be made working with me.

As far as the emoji, I had that cherry in there for a long time and nobody noticed--just like they don't notice there's a FROG there now and nobody has said anything.

I wanted to just walk away because of my books getting interfered with, but after I made that video, I was kicked.
Why is Doug such a bitch? You're right that a guy who makes millions getting mad at another millionaire over a child's playground insult is retarded as fuck.
Doug asking you to get involved defending him because a guy who meets men off Craigslist behind the pizza parlour dumpster has a beef with him and puts you in the spot of trying to be the referee in an autistic slap fight.
I'm not saying just because a guy is rich as fuck that he should share his wealth. He earned it. However Doug lives in luxury while you live in poverty and instead of putting this gay crying shit to rest and ignoring Van shits himself he chimps out and blocks you on twitter over the comic hut's 15 minute tard out on youtube.
Dirtworm is as soft as play doh if he calls you on the phone to tell you you're blocked. I hope you told him to eat shit and go fuck himself.
 
So was Nasser pushed or did he walk away? Because from that stream it seems Ethan is saying Nasser walked away and it's his fault he's missing out on all that CG money. But I though Nasser was kicked out of Comicsgate because most of CG are still very hostile to him judging from Nasser's appearance on a recent Oz show

There was too much noise and fighting around Nasser. I didn't feel like sorting through it, but I kept him around, even backing down YF once. The Cherry emoji creeped me out though. I think that was the last straw.

Looking back, I probably could have done more to work through interpersonal problems with CGers who were on my stream regularly, but I didn't. I just didn't want to get involved and I didn't want to hear about it.

Bottom line, Nasser was good for my show as a character. He was anti-funny. He added a lot of bits and jokes and things people remember. I resented losing him to TenNapel's gay mob more than any other creator who left.
 
There was too much noise and fighting around Nasser. I didn't feel like sorting through it, but I kept him around, even backing down YF once. The Cherry emoji creeped me out though. I think that was the last straw.

Looking back, I probably could have done more to work through interpersonal problems with CGers who were on my stream regularly, but I didn't. I just didn't want to get involved and I didn't want to hear about it.

Bottom line, Nasser was good for my show as a character. He was anti-funny. He added a lot of bits and jokes and things people remember. I resented losing him to TenNapel's gay mob more than any other creator who left.
It's okay because I'm back now. HAIL CAESAR.
 
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