2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Oats12345 said:
I have a feeling Ohio will be going to Trump
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If he wins there and loses the EC it would be the first time in 60 years that's happened. Go further back another 60 years and it's still only happened twice.

They tried pretending Virginia was the new bellwether in 2016, maybe we'll see it happen this time.
 
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Vesuvius said:
It's finally the day. I voted earlier and went full red, the first time in my life. Couldn't even imagine it just a couple of years ago. I wanted to take stock of what's been happening around here, in a deep deep blue area.
  • Signs for Biden have increased recently. Obviously no pro-Trump stuff in the City of Roses itself, but even just a quick trip outside the boundaries and I saw, surprisingly enough, a couple of pro-police signs as well as some MAGA paraphernalia. Travel a bit further out and it's probably around a 1:1:1:1 ratio of pro-Trump, pro-Biden, anti-Trump, and pro-police. However, the Biden stuff is stock signs bought from somewhere, whereas the other three categories tended to be more creative, handmade, or just fucking huge, with the largest being MAGA signs.
  • Portland isn't a ghost town, but the number of people walking the streets even during the day have plummeted. Meanwhile the homeless problem has only exploded. Entire fucking streets are blocked off by their shitty tents, and I'm sure pictures have been posted of their parking lot tent cities. Everyone jokes about not being in the city after dark but even during the day you'll have crazies throwing shit at you, screaming at you, etc. This was happening before, of course, but not to this degree.
  • I know a handful of people who have left Portland. Around half of them literally dropped everything, threw their family, pets, laptops, and a suitcase or two of clothing into their cars and just left, coming back later for more of their stuff. None of them have moved back thus far.
  • Politics have been clamped down on. A month or so ago, it was "vote for Democrats" from various coworkers. Well someone must have complained, because the message changed to just "vote". Had me a bit of a giggle when the messaging changed.
  • Not a single person believes Biden will win. Everyone seems resignated to four more years of Trump, even the most rabid supporter. Of course, some are espousing the viewpoint that voter fraud will be the sole reason why he will win, but most seem to realize how poor Biden is as a candidate.
  • After the fires had somewhat quelled, there was a bit of an impromptu get together. Someone brought out some beer, and we all chatted for a while. The subject of the fires came up, and someone mentioned that they had caught seven arsonists responsible for a lot of the fires. One of my neighbors spoke up and said "It was more than seven. We have cops in the family. It was more than seven." He didn't seem to want to elaborate. But the words hung in the air for a while.
  • COVID lockdowns have strained everyone. Even people who have steady and safe jobs they can do virtually don't want these fucking lockdowns anymore. I know a couple of people who've had family members die in hospitals without being able to say goodbye. Because of covid.
I don't believe that Oregon will turn red, that's pretty much a pipe dream. But I'm hoping that they don't give up on my state. Despite all this happening, most are still blaming Trump, or police, or whatever for everything that's happening to the city. It's all rather heartbreaking.

I'm sure whatever the result, it'll certainly be an interesting night at least with plenty of said to harvest.
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Huh, weird, this is the first time I voted for a Dem in my life. TBF it was a local candidate.
 
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PeeveTheSheev said:
No one here hates or even dislikes Jeb, although a fair few harbour (justified) resentment to the man's family. They are, after all, the closest Republican equivalent to the Democratic Clinton dynasty.

That being said, Jeb was nonetheless considered an archtypical Republican jobber candidate who would serve as meek cannon fodder if he made it through the primaries. It still boggles the mind that they funneled money into his run knowing full well that it had only been eight years since Dubya. I would not have discounted a Obama '08-esque blowout if he had been the one to face Killary.
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Jeb is pathetic to the point of being beneath contempt. So much money was funneled into his campaign because of this. Hillary was the bipartisan establishment candidate. Both sides were going to continue to profit big from her connections. Jeb was specifically pushed as a jobber. Maybe he knew that going in and that's why he was so pathetic. Hillary was a bitter pill that a lot of invested money was requiring to pay out, she had to have an awfully opponent to ensure victory.

Then when orange little troll rolled up and ruined so many of their plans.
 
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