2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[jenstark101]

What in the hell does this have to do with nobody calling a state with more than 99% of its votes recorded and one candidate having a multi-point lead and dragging their feet for hours calling other states in the same situation?

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail. They are disproportionately used by Bible belt states. If we are going to discount votes because they can be abused easily, the votes for entire states who use paperless DREs should be thrown out because there is literally nothing stopping a central tabulator from changing millions of votes with the press of one button, but it takes much more effort to manipulate mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is sub-par, but in person voting is worse in Bible belt states as far as election integrity.

I've been following election integrity fights for 10 years, from DREs to scanmachines, to mail-ins. Republicans are opportunistically picking a very specific avenue of voting fraud at a very specific time and only when it benefits them. Republicans have never been known to spearhead election integrity laws, as every election integrity organization is fouded by a Dem, (black box voting etc) and most of the counties that hand count votes are solid blue.

The states in question are at 80-90% with 1-2% differences and most uncounted votes in large cities with Dem leaning citizens.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

To add to that - follow the election maps here ; https://www.newsmax.com/election-maps/#president

They're better set out than a lot of other places.

Any reason to assume they are right versus AP et al. suddenly rolling back 99.4% to 85%?

 

[Eris!]

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail. They are disproportionately used by Bible belt states. If we are going to discount votes because they can be abused easily, the votes for entire states who use paperless DREs should be thrown out because there is literally nothing stopping a central tabulator from changing millions of votes with the press of one button, but it takes much more effort to manipulate mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is sub-par, but in person voting is worse in Bible belt states as far as election integrity.

I've been following election integrity fights for 10 years, from DREs to scanmachines, to mail-ins. Republicans are opportunistically picking a very specific avenue of voting fraud at a very specific time and only when it benefits them. Republicans have never been known to spearhead election integrity laws, as every election integrity organization is fouded by a Dem, (black box voting etc) and most of the counties that hand count votes are solid blue.

The states in question are at 80-90% with 1-2% differences and most uncounted votes in large cities with Dem leaning citizens.

who gives a shit the good guy won

 

[X Prime]

Any reason to assume they are right versus AP et al. suddenly rolling back 99.4% to 85%?

Does that sound even remotely legitimate to you, that rollback, from people like AP?

 

[jenstark101]

For some reason Republicans have no issue with this, when they're used by over a quarter of the electorate, and more than 3/4 when you count the scanners.

Chimp Hacks Diebold GEMS tabulator

Black Box Voting produced this film in Sept. 2004, teaching Baxter the chimp to delete entries in the Diebold audit log (without even a password). Yet in 200...

www.youtube.com

But mail-in votes are more easily manipulated how?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Does that sound even remotely legitimate to you, that rollback, from people like AP?

No, no it doesn't but it's late and I'm paranoid

 

[MeltyTW]

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail. They are disproportionately used by Bible belt states. If we are going to discount votes because they can be abused easily, the votes for entire states who use paperless DREs should be thrown out because there is literally nothing stopping a central tabulator from changing millions of votes with the press of one button, but it takes much more effort to manipulate mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is sub-par, but in person voting is worse in Bible belt states as far as election integrity.

I've been following election integrity fights for 10 years, from DREs to scanmachines, to mail-ins. Republicans are opportunistically picking a very specific avenue of voting fraud at a very specific time and only when it benefits them. Republicans have never been known to spearhead election integrity laws, as every election integrity organization is fouded by a Dem, (black box voting etc) and most of the counties that hand count votes are solid blue.

The states in question are at 80-90% with 1-2% differences and most uncounted votes in large cities with Dem leaning citizens.

dre stuff sounds interesting will look into

who gives a shit the good guy won

eh nah thats the thinking that gets you the soulless biden riders , eh well democracy is kind of unviable now with subversives

But mail-in votes are more easily manipulated how?

being dumped in the trash like they literally have been

 

[FunPosting101]

Baris analysis:
WI: All blue counties except Milwalkee are in. Trump has outstanding vote elsewhere in rural WI to cushion whatever comes out of there. Its fucking over.
MI: Trump is running up the margins everywhere. Macomb hasn't even been counted yet, and thats a large red district. Biden is doing worse in Detroit than Clinton. Its essentially insurmountable with what is left on the table.
PA: Trump did the unthinkable and flipped the suburbs of Philly by INSANE margins while running up the score elsewhere. Example Erie county was R+2 in 2016 and is now R+15. Lead is insurmountable with every "legitimate" mail vote in.
NC: Its fucking over 1% lead with 99% in. Call it.
Georgia: The margins in the Atlanta area cannot surpass Trumps 100k+ lead. Also, red parts of the state are still left. Call it.

Thats over 270 folks.

They are going to try to steal this hard.

Yeah, Trump has won this thing as far as I'm concerned. I assume you're following this map here? https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/elections/live-results-2020-us-presidential-election/ The only question now is if he can beat the Dems attempt at stealing the election.

 

[jenstark101]

who gives a shit the good guy won

right, I don't think you care about accurate voting, I think you care about stopping voting so a reality TV star lolcow gets elected.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail. They are disproportionately used by Bible belt states. If we are going to discount votes because they can be abused easily, the votes for entire states who use paperless DREs should be thrown out because there is literally nothing stopping a central tabulator from changing millions of votes with the press of one button, but it takes much more effort to manipulate mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is sub-par, but in person voting is worse in Bible belt states as far as election integrity.

I've been following election integrity fights for 10 years, from DREs to scanmachines, to mail-ins. Republicans are opportunistically picking a very specific avenue of voting fraud at a very specific time and only when it benefits them. Republicans have never been known to spearhead election integrity laws, as every election integrity organization is fouded by a Dem, (black box voting etc) and most of the counties that hand count votes are solid blue.

The states in question are at 80-90% with 1-2% differences and most uncounted votes in large cities with Dem leaning citizens.

Wow, this has nothing to do with anything that I said and you're just outright wrong regarding the counted vote percentage re: GA and NC.

But, shoot, I'm probably wrong, since GA's gone from 96% counted to 85% counted on RCP and HI is at 0%.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

If the states Trump is leading in are called for him, then this election really is a parallel to the 2012 election in that scenario

>Incumbent President wins most of the states
>Incumbent grew more divisive in first term
>Challenger picks up state the incumbent won in their previous election
>Challenger is unpopular establishment drone relying on not being the other guy

 

[OttoWest]

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail. They are disproportionately used by Bible belt states. If we are going to discount votes because they can be abused easily, the votes for entire states who use paperless DREs should be thrown out because there is literally nothing stopping a central tabulator from changing millions of votes with the press of one button, but it takes much more effort to manipulate mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is sub-par, but in person voting is worse in Bible belt states as far as election integrity.

I've been following election integrity fights for 10 years, from DREs to scanmachines, to mail-ins. Republicans are opportunistically picking a very specific avenue of voting fraud at a very specific time and only when it benefits them. Republicans have never been known to spearhead election integrity laws, as every election integrity organization is fouded by a Dem, (black box voting etc) and most of the counties that hand count votes are solid blue.

The states in question are at 80-90% with 1-2% differences and most uncounted votes in large cities with Dem leaning citizens.

Which “Bible belt” states disproportionally use DREs?

 

[Eris!]

right, I don't think you care about accurate voting, I think you care about stopping voting so a reality TV star lolcow gets elected.

Yeah.

 

[Ita Mori]

right, I don't think you care about accurate voting, I think you care about stopping voting so a reality TV star lolcow gets elected.

Even if you're right about your statement (you're not), you realize that would make you an A-Log?
Not even in your own narrative do you come out good.

 

[ce gars]

right, I don't think you care about accurate voting, I think you care about stopping voting so a reality TV star lolcow gets elected.

lmao calm down

 

[Stoneheart]

I'm curious why you think mail in voting is this hotbed of fraud but DREs (paperless touchvoting) aren't??

Because the average Dem Karen can stuff Votes, but has problems with technology,

Ty did the calculation in Nick's stream

do we Trust his math or judgement after how he botched the animeguy case?

States themselves are making the decision to count the votes overtime.

Its just a fuckn JOKE, They have been counting for hours, there shouldnt be any more votes left... If they realy still count votes, the Feds should come in after this election and take everyone involved to a math reeducation camp...

DREs have been abandoned by every advanced country and yet we keep them: "I sleep"

well every advanced or not advanced country can count votes in a short amount of time...

More absentee ballot happen in an election during a pandemic forcing a count beyond election day favoring the candidate Republicans don't like: "Real shit!"

why do they have to count beyond election day? Its not much more work than counting normal votes. they also could have just gotten a couple more people to count.

There's no reason to use DREs anymore, and they are more susceptible to fraud than mail-ins because there is no possible paper trail.

Yes there is, people in some states are clearly to stupid to count little crosses on paper....
You also have a very strange idea about how voter fraud works, its not state wide, its local in certain areas.

 

[JambledUpWords]

If the states Trump is leading in are called for him, then this election really is a parallel to the 2012 election in that scenario

>Incumbent President wins most of the states
>Incumbent grew more divisive in first term
>Challenger picks up state the incumbent won in their previous election
>Challenger is unpopular establishment drone relying on not being the other guy

With someone as uninspiring as Biden, the best the DNC should have hoped for is a 2012 result.

 

[jenstark101]

Even if you're right about your statement (you're not), you realize that would make you an A-Log?
Not even in your own narrative do you come out good.

Well no one has told me how mail-ins are worse than DREs and one person agreed with my statement about Republicans' "might makes right" attitude every time they lose the popular vote. I just hear people repeating jargon thought-terminating cliches from Trump.

 

[King Ghidorah]

People's pundit still has georgia at 99

 

[Eris!]

and one person agreed with my statement about Republicans' "might makes right" attitude

It's not might makes right, it's that the good guys had might today. Inshallah.