Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Okay lookin at individual states Nevada is going blue cant find the supposed uncounted votes in NC no way they can turn Georgia blue they dont have the votes, Wisconsin looks like it turns red again with michigan turning blue due to detroit. in Pensylvania it seems Pitsburg and Harrisburg went pretty red for city democrats have 1/12 advantage in votes meaning it wont be enought and Philly alone doesnt have the numbers.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Wisconsin too

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Huh, I'd heard that Milwaukee still had room to vote but not enough for Biden to overtake, not that it was totally tapped out.

They were all absentee, from what I understand. If Biden go 100k+ and only Biden, no indies or Trump, just like that Michigan surge, that's pretty obvious fraud. Mail-ins are expected to lean Biden, but not be 100% Biden. I can only see Trump contesting Wisconsin, unless he edges out in the end and Biden is too scared to call a recount.
 
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I just went over the maps again and I unironically think 270-268 to Biden is a likely result.
 

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Bloitzhole said:
I am an outsider looking in, genuine question (that'll probably get buried in the post avalanche) to any US PoSci or law kiwis - are there any decent academic sources that have investigated voting fraud in the past statistically (occurrence, impact, projected numbers) in smaller (or bigger) US elections, either from a PoSci or Law university department/journal? Curious because I couldn't find much on google scholar.

There's a lot of academia on mail in ballots and the demographics that use it (see my previous post for a small sample), but i couldn't find anything on that front.
I assume, given the incredible high penalties/fees/jail time for even a single case, it's somewhat rare but as usual, I am open to any input that has a bit of peer-review at least.
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Finding voter fraud is like trying to teach chickens about pi. There aren't really any systems around to detect it, the system itself isn't designed to make it detectable. Fraud obviously by its nature tries to remain hidden and the people in charge of detecting it are academics who are almost universally on the side that wants to Republicans to lose so they're generally disinterested in digging. So all we really have to go on are anecdotes.

I'm really not an expert on what is or isn't going on all I can say on my end is that in my experience there is nothing much that I can see in terms of safeguards. Precovid, in my state you could register with a guy right off the street with no documentation if I remember correctly, The main safeguard was a big folder with all the registered voters listed where you'd have to show your id and they'd cross it off and this was more than what I've heard is present in other areas where you don't need any id at all. Even preCOVID also have whats known as vote harvesting where third parties go around collecting ballots from people many of whom were also registered in the same fashion. You can see where things can go shady with this.
 
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