Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

[Positron]

Only people with dignity are able to treat others with dignity.

 

[4Macie]

Only people with dignity are able to treat others with dignity.

Dignity: "a sense of pride in oneself; self-respect."

Holden is incapable of having a sense of pride in himself or have self-respect (he claims he does, but we see through his facade).

Because of this, Holden is unable to treat anyone else with dignity. This is why he's confused and thinks women like being hurt and abused because: 1) human nature, and 2) most women have too much dignity and respect for themself to like this accept this kind of thing

 

[HickoryDickory]

Attempted sarcasm? How cute!

@4Macie, I'm sure he figures everyone is a dead void just like him, which is sad. If everything he says is true about his area, then he must live in a very low rent place... But then again he says he doesn't discuss his incel with his supposed friends because they would not understand. (And rightfully so)

Just like some of the guys on SlutHate admit they would never bring up the site, redpilling or anything in regards to their 'net activities because they know what they're saying is wrong. It's all about projecting in their "safe spaces" where they cannot really be held accountable for their deplorable behavior... And you just know that in person a good deal of these guys wouldn't even be able to make eye contact with a girl or woman. Instead, they would turn their gaze away and mumble under their breath... Then only to return to the 'net and rant about how some female disrespected them by not automatically proclaiming love and offering sex.

I wonder how it feels to know that one is despised for being a weird creeper... To never know the feeling of holding someone in a genuine embrace, or running fingers through a woman's hair and catching the scent of her shampoo, or waking up in the morning and being comforted that the person you went to bed with was still there... Offering to make you breakfast.

So, I guess it is really a miserable life to mull over things one wants and cannot have... Only to later realize that they have been torturing themselves instead of taking responsibility for their own happiness. -- To realize too late that they've wasted so many years of their lives involved in nothing but hate.

 

[supdup]

Huh? I think I did demonstrate it as much as possible (like the UN chart of illegitimacy rates and America Association of Blood Banks reports for some hard data, and various info that would easily lead to this conclusion via inductive reasoning).

This is a demonstration that your inductive reasoning skills are very poor. Basically your argument here is "There is a portion of the population that has illegitimate children amongst other things, therefore stupidity, immorality, lack of desire to take care of your kids and retardation are desirable traits"

You're stupidity is that you always generalize and have to see the world in black and white. There is no gray. Just because there is a portion of the population with illegitimate children that does not mean what you want it to mean. You still have to demonstrate that illegitimate children are a majority, that illegitimate children are somehow related to stupidity, immorality, lack of desire to care for child and retardation and that the these are desirable traits with the general population.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Educate us.

Words form by being accepted and used. Just because you don't like some word due to your hatred doesn't mean it can't be formed.

Irelevant: you still count on your parents

Nope. Not only parents can arrange marriages. A good community can too.

Also, if you think wives are fucktoys it just shows how demented you are. It's the modern Western sluts that are fucktoys, and these are no marriage material at all.

OMFG you dumb dumb man. What you just linked is literally the same thing you linked before. Same authors,same article, same timeline (year and everything); just a different title with a little different attitude.

Ok, that's...

with you?)

...enough.

I tried to reason with you, it's impossible.

This is a demonstration that your inductive reasoning skills are very poor. Basically your argument here is "There is a portion of the population that has illegitimate children amongst other things, therefore stupidity, immorality, lack of desire to take care of your kids and retardation are desirable traits"

No, that's just part of my reasoning. There are more reasons I haven't mentioned right now, but mentioned them many times before, like the mating strategies or government removing the need for providers.

You have no business calling anybody stupid since you can't argue for shit. And to top it all of your fucking criticism is about me seeing things as black and white, which is just utter nonsense and completely unrelated to my views.

 

[supdup]

No, that's just part of my reasoning. There are more reasons I haven't mentioned right now, but mentioned them many times before, like the mating strategies or government removing the need for providers.

Here's your problem, you take the most minute evidence for your views and exaggerate it so it fits your view. When faced with counter evidence, you dismiss it out-of-hand (most of the time just ignoring it). It really is that simple. You're intellectually dishonest and you are a slave to your dogma.

Even here you ignored my argument so you could attack the most basic premise I made

You have no business calling anybody stupid since you can't argue for shit.

I provide valid premises for my conclusions. That's what an argument is. Just because you ignore the argument doesn't mean it stops existing.

And to top it all of your fucking criticism is about me seeing things as black and white, which is just utter nonsense and completely unrelated to my views.

It's not nonsense. It's blatantly obvious that your world is black and white. Statements like "Western women are public urinals", "western women want to be raped", "women hate integrity, honesty and morality." and "something a modern "scientist"would never ever do" are all statements that demonstrate a black and white worldview. You speak in broad brush-strokes that are indicative of a mind that can't grasp variation.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

@Holden, @DrChristianTroy asks this:

"Then why aren't you in prison?

Because this poster is a moron, which is why he's blocked. He's telling young intelligent boys dangerous lies on rape that might cost them their freedom of life.

Here's your problem, you take the most minute evidence for your views and exaggerate it so it fits your view. When faced with counter evidence, you dismiss it out-of-hand (most of the time just ignoring it). It really is that simple

So where is this counter- evidence?

And what is my dogma? When I asked before you said it's RP, which is crazy, since I disagree with many of their basic views.

As a side note, having sex with your own mother was considered a terrible crime to the Ancient Greeks (see: Oedipus Rex). So if you had tried that back then, you probably would have been executed.

Yes, but this has nothing to do with my situation. In those times you'd have to be really deviant to do so when you had prostitutes and wives freely available. I had none of that available and was taught insane lies that wives exist, instead of being instructed how to cut off a classmate's head at the age of 13. I asked my mother that as a 22 yo virgin whose 8 month relationship with his soul mate just ended, leaving him completely broken. All thanks to buying into lies you people spread.

Nobody ever told me my relationship was a lie, that I should have beaten, raped and pimped my gf, not to mention everything before, including killing a woman.

 

[Positron]

instead of being instructed how to cut off a classmate's head at the age of 13. I asked my mother that as a 22 yo virgin.

So you want your mom to teach you how to cut off a person's head like a chicken?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

So you want your mom to teach you how to cut off a person's head like a chicken?

Umm, you should have read my post better. I am no longer 13. The point is that they never taught me what works for non-seducers today.

I wouldn't have needed violence at the age of 13 if I were a seducer. If I were some scummy kid with hair gel that would work, but I wasn't. So I had to be taught what works but wasn't.

 

[supdup]

So where is this counter- evidence?

Depends on the claim. It's spread out in this thread and the previous one. Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And what is my dogma?

Your worldview is dogmatic because you view it as incontrovertibly truth. You proved this by telling me there is no new information or paradigm that would change your view. That is, by definition, a dogmatic worldview.

When I asked before you said it's RP, which is crazy, since I disagree with many of their basic views.

I did not say it's RP, see there you go putting words in people's mouths. I said it was a variation of RP. RP is anti-feminist and so is your worldview and RP is misogynist, so is your worldview. The similarities are really easy to see.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Depends on the claim. It's spread out in this thread and the previous one. Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Ok, so give me one example where counter-evidence was provided.

Your worldview is dogmatic because you view it as incontrovertibly truth. You proved this by telling me there is no new information or paradigm that would change your view. That is, by definition, a dogmatic worldview.

You idiot ! I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did.

I did not say it's RP, see there you go putting words in people's mouths. I said it was a variation of RP. RP is anti-feminist and so is your worldview and RP is misogynist, so is your worldview. The similarities are really easy to see.

Mhm. Ok, I don't feel like looking it up but frankly I don't believe you with that RP thing. In any case, it's fucking insane. Using this "logic" you can also say I'm a radical feminist, since they also believe women can't rape men.

You know what, I think I'm going to block you now. I've had it with you. Anybody who'd think you make good points I'd ignore is an irredeemable idiot anyway.

Just remember, folks, even somebody like Macie wasn't blocked.

 

[Rin]

Ok, so give me one example where counter-evidence was provided.


You idiot ! I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did.


Mhm. Ok, I don't feel like looking it up but frankly I don't believe you with that RP thing. In any case, it's fucking insane. Using this "logic" you can also say I'm a radical feminist, since they also believe women can't rape men.

You know what, I think I'm going to block you now. I've had it with you. Anybody who'd think you make good points I'd ignore is an irredeemable idiot anyway.

Just remember, folks, even somebody like Macie wasn't blocked.

How can you claim Socrates as someone you admire if you can't even handle someone criticizing your viewpoint without calling them stupid? Socrates once famously said that a wise man knows that he knows nothing, but you claim that there is no existing evidence that would change your viewpoint.

The reason you haven't blocked Macie is because you've creepily glommed on to her, just like you have flossman.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

How can you claim Socrates as someone you admire if you can't even handle someone criticizing your viewpoint without calling them stupid?

I am calling him stupid because he is stupid, not because he criticizes me. There are people here who criticized me I didn't call stupid.

Socrates once famously said that a wise man knows that he knows nothing, but you claim that there is no existing evidence that would change your viewpoint.

Did you even read what I told him?

The reason you haven't blocked Macie is because you've creepily glommed on to her, just like you have flossman.

flossman is blocked, you dumb cunt. And I'm certainly not doing anything like that to her now (hint - nor did I ever).

 

[supdup]

Ok, so give me one example where counter-evidence was provided.

This is too stupid. I'm not going to reiterate things you've chosen to ignore. It's not my job to organize your thoughts for you.

You idiot ! I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did.

I explained how dumb that is. The reason something is "new" is because you've never seen it before. There is no one you could know whether or not there is new information that would change your view, because it would be new. For you to claim that there is no new information is yet again, another example for your dogmatic worldview.

Just keep on diggin' that hole.

You know what, I think I'm going to block you now. I've had it with you. Anybody who'd think you make good points I'd ignore is an irredeemable idiot anyway.

Just remember, folks, even somebody like Macie wasn't blocked.

I won!

 

[Rin]

I am calling him stupid because he is stupid, not because he criticizes me. There are people here who criticized me I didn't call stupid.


Did you even read what I told him?

You said, "I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did." Thus, you are claiming to have knowledge of all the information in the world, an assertion impossible to prove.
Did you even read what I said.

flossman is blocked, you dumb cunt. And I'm certainly not doing anything like that to her now (hint - nor did I ever).

I was referencing your habit of writing odes begging him to rape you. You also have a strange habit of constantly referring back to Macie, are willing to interact with her off-site, ask her to divulge personal information, speculate on her private life, and tell her details about your masturbation habits.

You're sexually excited by cows, aren't you?

 

[supdup]

You said, "I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did." Thus, you are claiming to have knowledge of all the information in the world, an assertion impossible to prove.
Did you even read what I said.

He knew he was cornered and his only option was to block me. I doubt you'll get anywhere with him, but I applaud the effort.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

You said, "I said there is no info or a paradigm that will change my views because they don't exist, not cause I'd reject them if they did." Thus, you are claiming to have knowledge of all the information in the world, an assertion impossible to prove.
Did you even read what I said.

Yes, I also have no absolute knowledge that unicorns don't exist somewhere. Still doesn't mean I live my life believing they do. Especially when the side that promotes different ideas is a-ok with things like seduction or slavery.

I was referencing your habit of writing odes begging him to rape you.

But he's still blocked, unlike Macie.

You also have a strange habit of constantly referring back to Macie, are willing to interact with her off-site, ask her to divulge personal information, speculate on her private life, and tell her details about your masturbation habits.

Your claims - 1. I don't mention her to people anymore. If not, try to prove it. 2. because she expressed this desire initially. Also, she doesn't seem to mind. Nobody's forcing her to communicate with me. 3. You do the same thing with me. I am not trying to dox her nor would I dox her if even if I had all the info in the world about her 4. I did before, but no longer, except in insulting her. 5. nope, the masturbation thing was explained - i was telling her how men have to act today.

That's a tad dramatic don't you think?

Not at all. The insanity of your second sentence proves I am 100 percent correct.

 

[supdup]

You know what, I think I'm going to block you now. I've had it with you. Anybody who'd think you make good points I'd ignore is an irredeemable idiot anyway.

Just remember, folks, even somebody like Macie wasn't blocked.

@DrChristianTroy @flossman
Is there a "blocked by Fuckbot" party committee?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

I'm not making an ad hom. I've had plenty of practice telling the difference. I'm not making any argument. I'm stating a fact. You are a creep.

For you to be stating a fact that I am a "creep" you'd have to know me well and see how people irl react to me, both those I know and don't know. You can't do that. Instead you ramble about my philosophy, which has nothing to do with this claim. You are boring and stupid.

But whatabout all the good things in life like rainbows and kit kats and puppies and watching someone who just flipped you off walk into a lampost?

These things can never be everything one lives for. They can only be enjoyed when a sane, healthy man has a wife. This doesn't mean that marriage is everything, it means it is a precursor to everything.

Breathing is essential, but isn't what life is all about.

You want me to work so some ape can cut women to pieces and be a knight for it? Why would I do that.

I know you think it's good that deranged incels like Idiotchu, azazel and similar loons are paying so women can be fucked straight in the ass with no lubricant and see those guys as gods, but why would sane men do so?

Pools with friends, or playing spreads with a bookie?

Huh? Water-polo as a sport. No spreads or anything. Games. Dunno about the terminology.

Even if Unwin's book discusses how women destroyed societies (which it doesn't)

That's correct. It doesn't. And neither do I think women destroy societies. Men do. Women just act the way men tell them to. Women didn't give themselves the right to vote. Men in early stages of degeneration did.

it was published following the effects of first wave feminism by someone with an old fashioned bias. This is the formula for incredulity

Do you have any evidence for this? From what I heard he was a Freudian liberal.

Also, I guess this dismisses your precious r/K theory and its fitter, stronger offspring of life-history theory as well. After all, the r/K theory was't developed until 1967, and life-history didn't come about until r/K was discredited.

Why would it?

I mean, if anything, Unwin's findings are a great confirmation of this theory. He claims that whenever women become sluts societies collapse. This fits the idea that in collapsing societies R-types reproduce while K-types don't.

 

[Lalala]

These things can never be everything one lives for. They can only be enjoyed when a sane, healthy man has a wife. This doesn't mean that marriage is everything, it means it is a precursor to everything.

Breathing is essential, but isn't what life is all about.

You want me to work so some ape can cut women to pieces and be a knight for it? Why would I do that.

I know you think it's good that deranged incels like Idiotchu, azazel and similar loons are paying so women can be fucked straight in the ass with no lubricant and see those guys as gods, but why would sane men do so?

Welp some people like puppies and rainbows and some people like imagining people dry boning the dirt path I guess. C'est la vie.