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Bleeding Heart said:
Instead of deconstructing all the possible “third gender” concepts in different cultures, which they will not even have the patience to listen to, question why a long history would legitimise something. Especially mentioning ideas that not only wokes would agree on, but that most sane people agree on. Such as, slavery has long roots in history, but that does not make it good. Racism and sexism have existed in many different cultures throughout history, but it's still not acceptable in the modern society. As such, transracial, transabled and transgender are all equally appropriative, not to mention physically impossible and insane.


Pretty sure the photos are just the wrong way around. The nose looks fine, everything else not so much.
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There's nothing to de-construct. Almost every 'third gender' concept when you trace it's roots back is the result of cultures putting their gay people, usually men, into a separate category in order to properly regulate them. While woke culture has added modernized woke concepts to all these terms they aren't correct to the historical basis. These words and groups were historically created specifically with the intent of othering those who fit that category usually because, in historical context, reproduction and growing the tribe was incredibly important so those who did not contribute to that endeavor needed to be placed aside to not interfere with the bulk majority doing so.

There words may have been 'reclaimed' in modern day but their historical roots typically give them a negative connotation.
 
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remiem said:
There's nothing to de-construct. Almost every 'third gender' concept when you trace it's roots back is the result of cultures putting their gay people, usually men, into a separate category in order to properly regulate them. While woke culture has added modernized woke concepts to all these terms they aren't correct to the historical basis. These words and groups were historically created specifically with the intent of othering those who fit that category usually because, in historical context, reproduction and growing the tribe was incredibly important so those who did not contribute to that endeavor needed to be placed aside to not interfere with the bulk majority doing so.

There words may have been 'reclaimed' in modern day but their historical roots typically give them a negative connotation.
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That is exactly what I meant by deconstructing, what you did there. You just deconstructed the concept of third genders, as people have done multiple times in this thread. I just think that people may find it easier to disagree and claim you have misinterpreted something regarding that, than it is to compare it to other historical ideas they probably disagree with themself. Instead of lecturing them, questioning why something having historical roots gives it validity could help them rethink and come a conclusion themselves, which people always have an easier time digesting. This obviously does not apply to troons themselves, as they don't care for either of these arguments, but more meant for naive liberals who haven't dared question troon ideology. I'm just suggesting to encourage that, asking questions.

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Famous trans icon Oscar Wilde :story:

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Cerabella said:
Famous trans icon Oscar Wilde :story:

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What?? There's revisionism, then there's this bullshit. What the fuck?
You know what? I honestly don't care what these smoothbrained fetishists want to call themselves (or each other in their hugboxes, for that matter), but when they start applying their fucked up taxonomy to people who are unable to respond to it, that's too far. Doubly so, when they're seeking to normalise themselves at their victim's expense. Stack the hats up, I guess; I'm unselfconsciously MATI from this.
 
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Surfin Terf said:
I'm sure that the McElroy's suck the tranny cock, and I know that they plug the Sylvia Rivera Fund and Marsha P Johnson Foundation at the end of the pod, but the actual content doesn't really ever mention troon shit (though I do remember one painful moment of a live show where an audience member asked for advice on how to come out to his father a third time to announce that actually he isn't a gay man transwoman, but actually he's nonbinary). I haven't really listened to Adventure Zone, the fan stuff makes me think it has troon stuff, but that could just be the fanbase trooning characters.

One podcast that I'm sort of wondering about is Comedy Bang Bang though. It's just a minor thing, but for a few weeks Scott Soccermom kept on occasionally randomly referencing Harry Potter (he almost never did before this) and then saying "written by the notorious TERF JK Rowling" and I'm still genuinely unsure on whether he was making fun of TRAs for being so mad at her for expressing a pretty mild opinion or whether he was actually trying to contribute to her cancellation. He probably could have gained a big troon following if he'd kept up the bit or really leaned into it (and I like Scott Saucerman) so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt here. He sort of had a golden opportunity to denounce JK Rowling a month or so ago when Lauren Lapkus (best known for her role on Orange is the New Black) was playing a character named "Galbraith" and he didn't. I'm sure that anyone who knows the answer won't tell me, but it's something that I've sort of wondered about.
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Used to be a massive TAZ sped, and there was a canon trans character. It wasn't super woke or in your face but kind of out of place for a DND podcast
 
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Stilgar of Troon said:
What?? There's revisionism, then there's this bullshit. What the fuck?
You know what? I honestly don't care what these smoothbrained fetishists want to call themselves (or each other in their hugboxes, for that matter), but when they start applying their fucked up taxonomy to people who are unable to respond to it, that's too far. Doubly so, when they're seeking to normalise themselves at their victim's expense. Stack the hats up, I guess; I'm unselfconsciously MATI from this.
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Large said:
What's next, penis men?
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Don't be silly, they won't ever use that language for ejaculators. Only women get to be bleeders, vulva people, menstruators and owners of cervixes. Men will continue to be referred to as men. Because despite these language changes being supposedly to be inclusive of trans men, it's really trans women who are being coddled here. This tweet puts it well:
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How Do You Do Fellow Kids said:
Don't be silly, they won't ever use that language for ejaculators. Only women get to be bleeders, vulva people, menstruators and owners of cervixes. Men will continue to be referred to as men. Because despite these language changes being supposedly to be inclusive of trans men, it's really trans women who are being coddled here. This tweet puts it well:
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Why do woke women tolerate this?
 
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