2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Terrorist said:
Trump will do the same or slightly worse with blacks, the same or slightly better with Hispanics, and will win on the suburban white vote like Republicans always do. There’s no reason to believe wild fantasies about a minority swing to Trump that I can see, other than a few cherry-picked polls.

I’ve seen that take from all sorts of people lately and it reeks of cope. Conservatives don’t want to admit demographic change will doom the GOP.
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It looks like I was wrong. He did do substantially better with minorities. But, a couple things:

1. Trump still needs whites to win and shouldn’t take them for granted. The gap with minorities is now smaller but still a pretty big gap, and if he kept his same ground with white men or improved, he’d be in a much better place rn. It’d be 2012 GOP autopsy-level stupid to depend on minorities to win this.

2. It’s an unusual election year: Lockdowns, riots, and neither candidate mentioning immigration much would skew Hispanics for Trump higher than usual. Shouldn’t assume trends of gains with minorities this year (or many other trends) will continue under more normal circumstances.

3. Think about the policy implications: If they’re doing better with Hispanics, GOP might be inclined to lighten up on immigration as they wanted to do pre-Trump (as their corporate donor class wants cheap labor). Compromise on amnesty, DACA, etc. might be incoming. Is it worth it?

4. Demographic change has implications beyond red vs blue. There’s an audience for Trump-type RW populist caudillos in Latin America too, but those places are shitholes regardless. If the future of America is corrupt and incompetent Hecho-en-Mexico Trump ripoffs sandwiched between the typical 3rd world mix of bloodthirsty tinpot communists/foreign intelligence puppets, that’s cold comfort to me.

A lot of people want an easy narrative from results so far where idpol is defeated and we don’t have to think about that icky race stuff ever again. But IMO it’s not that simple.

(To be fair, I think it’s quite possible dem fraud efforts could target white male ballots specifically)
 
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Sperghetti said:
Personally, I think it might be the closeness of it. They were expecting either a decisive victory they could rub in everyone's faces, or a decisive defeat that they could rage about for four more years. As it is now, it's still not a definitive victory and even if it ends up being one, it's still too close for comfort.
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People were hyping this up. They were expecting mass riots. Decisive victories either way. Not this. Remember, the Dems see themselves as the victims of Trump's tyranny. A lot of them will be worried that Trump will win the presidency via the courts.
 
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It's a 'dog caught the car' moment where Orange Man has a credible path right out of the Oval Office but now what? They now have to face up to the fact that they voted in a dementia patient and the ambiguously brown reboot of Hillary to do it. And the left semi-doomposting about how since it wasn't a clear Bidenslide there's a lot more racists in America that need reeducation than they thought.
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Maybe related, but they're also incredulous that Cheeto Benito picked up voters from every demographic group except fuckin' white males. Sure, Dems have the nonwhite majority, but their bitching about their pet PeeOhCees getting uppity and leaving the plantation is certainly telling.

It casts some shadow of doubt on their long-term "demographics are destiny" plan.
 
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Trump also veto'd the Patriot Act's annual extension -- although as far as I understand it there was some shenanigans that will let Biden "extend" it if he gets in.

No, you didn't hear about that because holy fuck the glowys were pissed and the media didn't want to risk the lolbertarians and liberals gaining a reason to stop hating Trump.
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I literally did not hear about this until yesterday. How does something like that happen and go largely unreported everywhere?
 
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RumblyTumbly said:
I tell ya what this inspired me to do.

My manager is a Republican and worked as an election poll worker in his state (won't say where, but we live in different states). I talked to him earlier today and he said he didn't notice anything shady at his polling booth.

That said, the way things have gone today, its kind of inspired me to do my part and become an election poll worker myself for the next election. I live in a true blue state, so I doubt I'll encounter much, but one way I can help prevent shadiness is participating myself because I know I'm not going to do anything against the rules, and I am more than willing to call out when I see it.
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Dude, you live in a true blue state, you better be ready to see some shit.
 
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Another seat flipped red
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Thank God. Justin Amash is so god damn annoying. The dude cried because he accidentally missed a vote.

jenstark101 said:
nooooo a president is going to be elected who was #2 in charge when the country was relatively peaceful and stable

nooo
noooo I wuv drama we need a drama queen president noooo pls someone be a faithless elector nooo
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Please remind me when Black Lives Matter started, I forgot.
 
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jenstark101 said:
nooooo a president is going to be elected who was #2 in charge when the country was relatively peaceful and stable

nooo
noooo I wuv drama we need a drama queen president noooo pls someone be a faithless elector nooo
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The cost was in the lives of drone strike victims, your privacy and freedom. Being willing to lie and start shit and allow cities to burn down as soon as an alternate leader takes office doesn't mean that other choice is the one to blame for the instability. Correlation is not causation in this case.
 
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