Fact Check: 138,339 Biden Votes and No Trump Votes

Ivan Shatov

Ivan Shatov

Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
kiwifarms.net
Joined
Jun 13, 2019
Hey Kiwis -

The accusations of voter fraud have my autism in overdrive. Help me answer this question.

There's an allegation 138,339 votes for Biden magically appeared overnight in Michigan, without a single vote for the Republican or the Independent. Trump was ahead in MI when I went to bed, and it was startling to learn he lost the lead.

But did it really go down this way? How would we verify when the votes came in, how much they affected the vote count at that time, and whether or not they were actually all for Biden?

This is kind of important, because of the way information travels. Take this Tweet about what happened, it's one of many:

1604550245448.png



And compare it to the article like this, which has a narrative that's also making it's way into the MSM.


For those that didn't read, people showed up to the TCF Center in Detroit today to stop the vote. If you believe the Tweet, they're justified - there's a clear example of election fraud and someone needs to investigate. If you believe the article, they are victims of a social media hoax and there's nothing to see here, move along. As of this writing, there's still a crowd gathered at the TCF Center.

We're looking at 2 different realities. You would think it would be simple to look up when the votes were tallied, but I'm not coming up with a way to check hour-by-hour counts. Tried showing the Tweet to friends and family, they believe it's a photoshop job and the media would be all over it if the Dems were stuffing the ballot boxes.

How does one prove how the vote totals changed overnight? I'm not sure where to start.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
  • Dumb
  • Informative
Reactions: Catch Your Breath, Itu aru kamusu tugeza, Emperor Julian and 10 others
Maybe the Republicans threw out the extra 100,000 ballots?

I thought many Trumpers voted in person.
 
Seems like it was a ready made package to nuke Trump's lead. Trump was looking supergood and let's say Trump was destinied to lose anyways and that those votes are legitimate. Rather than seeing Biden rise gradually in count, they just throw in all these ballots. And then to make it worse. some of the battlegrounds stop counting votes.

The democrats made this election much worse for Biden than it had to be. And basically proved Trump correct that there would be fuckery and its happening.
 
  • Like
  • Dumb
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: George Geef, OblasTism, Muh Vagina and 7 others
Sounds like complete coping if you ask me. You need to accept the fact that Detroit is firmly Democratic like every major city, has a high black population, and there are also the absentee ballots, which are counted last and if the statistics are correct, mostly lean Democrat.
 
  • Like
  • Autistic
  • Dumb
Reactions: Lurkio, Getwhatyou, yasscat and 12 others
MrJokerRager said:
Seems like it was a ready made package to nuke Trump's lead. Trump was looking supergood and let's say Trump was destinied to lose anyways and that those votes are legitimate. Rather than seeing Biden rise gradually in count, they just throw in all these ballots. And then to make it worse. some of the battlegrounds stop counting votes.

The democrats made this election much worse for Biden than it had to be. And basically proved Trump correct that there would be fuckery and its happening.
Click to expand...
If the media was actually investigating claims of voter fraud, certainly. But I don't think that's what we're dealing with here.

Maybe it's worth broadening the scope and looking at how claims of voting fraud are being treated in the media.

From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Fact check: Wisconsin did not have more votes than registered voters


Fact check: Wisconsin did not 'find' 100K ballots around 4 a.m. the morning after the election, or take break from counting votes


The authors of each article could not do a better job gaslighting. They trot out various claims without dealing with the substance. In the case of Wisconsin finding ballots, they just quote the Wisconsin Elections Commission stating no one votes without a registration. They don't mention the actual number of votes or how many people registered the same day. It's the stupidest article I've ever seen.

Which brings me back to the original point - how do we know for sure that the vote for the Democrat increased at this time without increasing for the Republican? The media is never going to ask that question.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
  • Like
  • Dumb
Reactions: Wowcoolusername, Muh Vagina, Slimy Time and 4 others
Ivan Shatov said:
If the media was actually investigating claims of voter fraud, certainly. But I don't think that's what we're dealing with here.

Maybe it's worth broadening the scope and looking at how claims of voting fraud are being treated in the media.

From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Fact check: Wisconsin did not have more votes than registered voters


Fact check: Wisconsin did not 'find' 100K ballots around 4 a.m. the morning after the election, or take break from counting votes


The authors of each article could not do a better job gaslighting. They trot out various claims without dealing with the substance. In the case of Wisconsin finding ballots, they just quote the Wisconsin Elections Commission stating no one votes without a registration. They don't mention the actual number of votes or how many people registered the same day. It's the stupidest article I've ever seen.

Which brings me back to the original point - how do we know for sure that the vote for the Democrat increased at this time without increasing for the Republican? The media is never going to ask that question.
Click to expand...
Majority of the media is usually allied with the democratic party or controlled by corporations more friendly to the democratic party. And Republicans along with Independents generally speaking have little to no trust in the media compared to democrats tells you something.

The rust belt has traditionally been a deep blue stronghold since the FDR days and was blue down ballot during the Reagan era as well. Its during the Obama era where its starts trending red but it looks like there is still some party loyalty left.
 
  • Like
Reactions: George Geef and Slimy Time
Meat Pickle said:
Sounds like complete coping if you ask me. You need to accept the fact that Detroit is firmly Democratic like every major city, has a high black population, and there are also the absentee ballots, which are counted last and if the statistics are correct, mostly lean Democrat.
Click to expand...
Lean for sure, but 100% seems a little suspicious.

I ain't gonna say it's fraud, I can't know that (and honestly as a Fucking Leaf™️ it's not my place to speculate), it's just odd.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Fanatical Pragmatist
Meat Pickle said:
Sounds like complete coping if you ask me. You need to accept the fact that Detroit is firmly Democratic like every major city, has a high black population, and there are also the absentee ballots, which are counted last and if the statistics are correct, mostly lean Democrat.
Click to expand...

Even if you expect them to vote biden 99.99% of the time, the probability that 140,000 of them unanimously go to biden is 0.00008%.

That's ignoring the third parties.
 
  • Like
  • Winner
  • Agree
Reactions: George Geef, St8Bustah, round robin and 8 others
Meat Pickle said:
Sounds like complete coping if you ask me. You need to accept the fact that Detroit is firmly Democratic like every major city, has a high black population, and there are also the absentee ballots, which are counted last and if the statistics are correct, mostly lean Democrat.
Click to expand...
If its the case, then they will have no issue with recount and being transparent about the process? I know people have been okay with democrat abusing the laws for 4 years because "fuck drumph" but i legit cant stand people being okay with election rigging just because its their candidate. We literally had 4 years of muh election interference from russia investigation but Even democrats should be looking at over 100k absentee ballot with not a single one for trump as something that is mildly suspicious.

We had months of riots and protest over lack of accountability of police because people lost trust in the police institution. People should really stop being fine with the erosion of trust of every single instutitions (political, judicial, educational, etc). At the very least once the pendulum swing and it always does. Dont be surprised with the other side being okay with playing just as dirty. Eventually all pretense of keeping a moral high ground will dissapear and its gonna turn ugly.
 
  • Agree
  • Like
Reactions: Johan Schmidt, George Geef, PYSMA and 6 others
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back