2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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It still kind of disconcerting where we're seeing all this shady behavior and people are like 'lol biden won, get over it'. This is fraud on a historical scale. I don't care if Biden wins or not. What I do care about is elites hijacking a process so blatantly. Does Trump not being president matter more than our entire election system being this corrupted?

Yes.

Put very simply. Yes. The current crop of "elites" are losing their grip as often happens every 30-40 years or so. The problem is they tried to rig the system so they would be able to continue the transition of handing the global powerhouse keys to China for the once-a-century hegemonic power shift (the last happened in the 1940s from the UK-USA).

There's so many corrupt officials in many places. Most obviously in the Democrats, but also in the Republicans and many levers of government. Trump represented an annoying, disruptive force to them. He's flipped hundreds of court seats and has set up the SCOTUS for a conservative domination for the next 40-50 years. If he got 4 more years, there's absolutely no telling what sort of "damage" he'd have wrought to the carefully laid plans, doubly so with no more fear of another looming presidential election.

They also have seen what happened here in the UK where many of the elites, the media, and the majority of political parties loathed the "disruption" to the neat little map and interests Brexit was bringing and campaigned hard, with all the cacophany of cancelling Brexit, holding the balance of power and demanding second referenda to correct the mistake, but dress it up as "confirmatory".

The result was the public didn't so much as slap them around by relecting a populist Prime Minister, as beat them so bloody it will likely take another decade for them to fix the matter. Ancient "core" territory was shattered and flipped in ways that will have consequences for decades to come.

They simply couldn't, and wouldn't afford that happening in the US.
 
You know one thing that really ground my gears in election talk this year was when people saud that vioting for a third party was 'wasting the vote', akin to not voting at all. I think it's the most American thing one could possibly do to vote third party- you're saying 'I will use my rights as I see fit, and not as I am told to use them'. Really telling that discussiion of the vote was essentially "You have to vote... No, not like that!"
 
*Trump supporters start convenging on the vote centres*

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Jocelyn Benson: Wait a mintute! Wait just a second here! No, No, ah, I don't have your ballots here. They're in Dana's house and Gretchen's house.

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Trump: Hey what the hell are my ballots doing in your house Gretchen!
 
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Its part of the reason why I don't give a shit if Trump loses. He'll never bring the hammer down on Big Tech and onto the people that are doing this, so its kind of pointless. If he wins and then goes on exterminatius, I'd be hoping for him to do it. But the likelihood of him doing that is close to 0. So I don't really care how it turns out
Yep. It’s yet another instance of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The states he won but is struggling to get are the states most receptive to his 2016 promises of reindustrialization, ending the opiate crisis, tough immigration reforms, massive infrastructure spending, etc.

People who didn’t vote for decades or were Reagan Democrats gave Trump a shot. He didn’t fulfill much if any of his promises so they went back to voting for Democrats or not voting. It’s pretty simple and straightforward.

The voter fraud is simply awful but this was always going to be the plan. He should have had it monitored it through the DOJ. Better yet if he fulfilled his campaign promises, the margins would have been too high to commit voter fraud.
 
Yes.

Put very simply. Yes. The current crop of "elites" are losing their grip as often happens every 30-40 years or so. The problem is they tried to rig the system so they would be able to continue the transition of handing the global powerhouse keys to China for the once-a-century hegemonic power shift (the last happened in the 1940s from the UK-USA).

There's so many corrupt officials in many places. Most obviously in the Democrats, but also in the Republicans and many levers of government. Trump represented an annoying, disruptive force to them. He's flipped hundreds of court seats and has set up the SCOTUS for a conservative domination for the next 40-50 years. If he got 4 more years, there's absolutely no telling what sort of "damage" he'd have wrought to the carefully laid plans, doubly so with no more fear of another looming presidential election.

They also have seen what happened here in the UK where many of the elites, the media, and the majority of political parties loathed the "disruption" to the neat little map and interests Brexit was bringing and campaigned hard, with all the cacophany of cancelling Brexit, holding the balance of power and demanding second referenda to correct the mistake, but dress it up as "confirmatory".

The result was the public didn't so much as slap them around by relecting a populist Prime Minister, as beat them so bloody it will likely take another decade for them to fix the matter. Ancient "core" territory was shattered and flipped in ways that will have consequences for decades to come.

They simply couldn't, and wouldn't afford that happening in the US.
If, by some miracle, that Trump manages to win by even one; just one, point, it will be enough to throw a wrench into their expectations. Trump's best bet is the SC, and even that is becoming contested.
 
If, by some miracle, that Trump manages to win by even one; just one, point, it will be enough to throw a wrench into their expectations. Trump's best bet is the SC, and even that is becoming contested.
Maybe, but Trump had the foresight to fill 3 of the seats with conservatives so in addition to Alito and Thomas, there are 5 possible votes that will rule in his favor. I honestly think he knew that shit would hit the fan in this election and ACB was a literal godsend in that he could make the court more conservative so should shit happen, he would basically be guaranteed a victory in the courts
 
I'm really struggling for words with how obviously something is up with these counts. There is blatantly a major problem somewhere be it malice, incompetence or a combination of the two. Democracy (please don't come at me with the "aksuly Republic" comments) only works if the people believe in the process.(normal) people can accept losing if it was fair but if there is even the impression of impropriety then they won't. I have no idea how they are going to recover it at this point but it's a mess.
 
Maybe, but Trump had the foresight to fill 3 of the seats with conservatives so in addition to Alito and Thomas, there are 5 possible votes that will rule in his favor. I honestly think he knew that shit would hit the fan in this election and ACB was a literal godsend in that he could make the court more conservative so should shit happen, he would basically be guaranteed a victory in the courts
"HuRR dUrR. DrUmpF bE bIg DuM"

For fuck's sake. I don't even like the guy, but I fucking hate Biden, Harris and retarded "progressives" who've been astroturfed by corporations to be their lapdogs.
 
Apparently Arizona has been called for Biden again. Anyone else hear anything about that from a trusted source
 
I'd find it exceptionally amusing if Trump somehow managed to flip Nevada now, and all the Democrats would quite literally explode from screaming about fraud.
 
I was talking about media. It seems companies like Warner and Disney are firing in mass due to these woke types constantly having poor sales. They are losing their grasp on the industry outside of news, and who wants to bet that news will turn on them as Bernie supporters chant the CNN sucks as much as Trump supporters. The establishment hated Bernie and is only tolerating his audience for a Democrat win, if they continue, expect media to light up on many of them. They already avoided Bernie, would not allow Yang to speak, and labeled Tulsi a Russian at every opportunity.

Also, they can now talk about the riots and the crazy dems. If the progressives do stage a rebellion against the establishment, it is fair game for media to rip into them as they are no longer useful. It would make good news for their establishment Dem, former TDS demographic, as it reaffirms that Obama is the only good Dem and anyone who follows is good
I believe that Gillette lost a lot of money for their woke shit and yet didn't stop it. The fact of the matter is that academia creates all the wokies and they will not stop even if Trump is gone. Thus US is stuck with more and more young crazy wokies.

But anyway, lets agree to disagree and move on.
 
Yes that and Google are what the person who told me cited.

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It's the same fuckery as we've seen the last few days. Call Blue States immediately, Red States Never.

AZ has 12% left to count and it's all rural red areas. It's an uphill climb, but i can definitely understand why Trump's team has a good feeling about it.

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They still refuse to call Georgia, NC, and Pennsylvania for Trump. AZ has Trump gaining, and Maricopa didn't give Biden the numbers he needed (in fact, Trump GAINED in Maricopa -- which is why they pretended to be under attack by alt-right fascistonazis and stopped the count, again). Nevada is within 8k votes and still has 1/4th the state left to count.
 
It still kind of disconcerting where we're seeing all this shady behavior and people are like 'lol biden won, get over it'. This is fraud on a historical scale. I don't care if Biden wins or not. What I do care about is elites hijacking a process so blatantly. Does Trump not being president matter more than our entire election system being this corrupted? I just don't see how you can watch observers being booted out, ballots remaining unchallenged, poll workers lying to observers and then counting ballots in secret. And then these insane numbers with 80+% turnout for some states. That's fucking ridiculous. Even in countries where voting is compulsory they don't get 80+% turnout. Biden scoring more votes than Obama and Hilary? Trump winning Ohio and Florida and possibly PA (where there is obvious fuckery going on) but losing the presidency? The Republicans keeping the Senate and taking over 11 house seats from Dems but still lose the presidency? All this shit combined points to something fishy going on.

People seem to be content to not ask questions as long as their guy wins.

This.

People on this forum who find it amusing that they are openly cheating in the supposed "Best Country In the World", the world power...
The fact that you couldn't even run an election? The fact that there is so much corruption?

Don't complain when you never, ever get another choice in elections. Even if another Trump or Trump ran again, they know they can just fraud their way to a victory, if this goes through.
They'll know they can cheat. If allowed, this is the end of America as a Republic. You're done. What you saw over summer was a contained prelude. You're never getting you're freedoms back if Biden's path is cleared.

The media is 100% on their side - there goes freedom of speech and press.
The tech sector is 100% on their side - there goes freedom of tech (the censorship that will happen, will make the proposed repeal of 203 look like a fantasy situation).
There will literally be no checks and balances even remotely in place anymore, if Biden steals - not wins - but steals the election.
You, the individual, will have lost your self determination, because who the fuck is even remotely going to fight for you?

They 100% know they can trample you, they will just lie, steal, smash it up, burn it down, destroy, murder and who's going to hear your story? The packed SCOTUS? The media? Want to talk about it on the net?

Once they know they can get away with something and remove the only thing standing in their way - honesty/truth/reality - well, that's how you end up with situations like Russia, China, NK, Cuba etc.

You're censored. You're silenced. You literally don't have a say. You don't have the economy to back you up. Sorry, but in reality, this is usually when civil wars break out, but conservatives/republicans/Americans aren't going to do shit. They don't think this can happen to them. They'll just swallow it and go back to losing their freedoms with "grace". Americans think this can only happen in faraway lands.
 
This.

People on this forum who find it amusing that they are openly cheating in the supposed "Best Country In the World", the world power...
The fact that you couldn't even run an election? The fact that there is so much corruption?

Don't complain when you never, ever get another choice in elections. Even if another Trump or Trump ran again, they know they can just fraud their way to a victory, if this goes through.
They'll know they can cheat. If allowed, this is the end of America as a Republic. You're done. What you saw over summer was a contained prelude. You're never getting you're freedoms back if Biden's path is cleared.

The media is 100% on their side - there goes freedom of speech and press.
The tech sector is 100% on their side - there goes freedom of tech (the censorship that will happen, will make the proposed repeal of 203 look like a fantasy situation).
There will literally be no checks and balances even remotely in place anymore, if Biden steals - not wins - but steals the election.
You, the individual, will have lost your self determination, because who the fuck is even remotely going to fight for you?

They 100% know they can trample you, they will just lie, steal, smash it up, burn it down, destroy, murder and who's going to hear your story? The packed SCOTUS? The media? Want to talk about it on the net?

Once they know they can get away with something and remove the only thing standing in their way - honesty/truth/reality - well, that's how you end up with situations like Russia, China, NK, Cuba etc.

You're censored. You're silenced. You literally don't have a say. You don't have the economy to back you up. Sorry, but in reality, this is usually when civil wars break out, but conservatives/republicans/Americans aren't going to do shit. They don't think this can happen to them. They'll just swallow it and go back to losing their freedoms with "grace". Americans think this can only happen in faraway lands.
Yes, but racism, sexism or whatever ism is more important cause Academia and Media who are all corporate owned have told me it is. So, yes Biden.

Liberals and Leftists care about the working class about as much as the CEO capitalist does which is nothing.
 

Not exactly dead but definitely a serious error somewhere.

The proof he gives they're dead is that they were all born on 1/1/1900.

1/1/1900 is the earlest day on the database, and therefore what it defaults to if it encounters an error.

In other words, it's not that they're dead, it's that 1 of 3 things happened:

a) The database searched for that person and got a big fat error message, therefore the person doesn't exist.

b) The person was inputted manualy, and much like a little kid that just lets the fucking birday as default if it's an "adult" year, the idiot inputting the names didn't bother to give them birthdays and just let the default on thinking it'd be acceptable. Again, not real people.

c) The only one that's not actual fraud: this is just the database shitting itself. You'd be surprised how often this can happen if the programmer is a fucking hack. Of course there is the question of why the electoral program was done by a hack, but, well, reason I know it defaults to that is I've seen that shit pretty often when dealing with the SAS (that's the Andalusian Healthcare Service, not the British Spec Opcs, same letters, very different work.) both for patient files and doctor files, so, wouldn't be the first one.

Not as solid proof of fraud as the prior evidence, so I wouldn't jump the gun too much, but certainly something that needs looking into, because even if it's "c" that means your voter registration website's being held together by spit and happy thoughts, and that ain't no way to ensure a fair ellection.
 
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