2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[HumanHive]

Someone make the argument as to why this won't go to the supreme court and give Trump a recount, and the win, because I don't see how that's not the most likely outcome right now.

There's a hard time limit in Decemeber when the Electoral College gets officially divvied out. If they can stall until then, that's it.
And recounts take time and money, and can themselves be stalled.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Again...does it still actually matter? If they're not called for their bullshit and the fraud they pulled is exposed to be so damning that only an idiot or a fanatic would refuse to believe it, then what's stopping them from doing this again and again and again until Republicans wake the hell up and pass a Federal Election Law that includes Voter ID among other things? This is the precipice. They must not pass.

For the temporal matters, yes, as seen with Bush vs. Gore. Getting something passed like that at this point in time would be difficult to do. It would be better for the Supreme Court to look at all the contested states, decide which state goes to which candidate, and decide the winner. We are in an emergency right now without calling the states like this. If the Supreme Court has to ultimately call it, then so be it. If people cry about it, I expect it, but there is too much fraud and rot already to honestly pass something like that right now.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Someone make the argument as to why this won't go to the supreme court and give Trump a recount, and the win, because I don't see how that's not the most likely outcome right now.

Because SCOTUS has to actually decide to take up the case.
Not saying it won't happen, not saying it will happen. But 2020 has really taught me never to assume any outcome has near 100% odds.

 

[verissimus]

Someone make the argument as to why this won't go to the supreme court and give Trump a recount, and the win, because I don't see how that's not the most likely outcome right now.

What part of what I just said is not connecting to some of you guys here. Ok, fine. Suppose Trump gets a recount, wins the ones that count that pushes him over the edge. Great. He gets 4 more years. What happens the next election then if the Left gets away with this and try to pull the same stunt? How about the next one where the stakes will be bigger? And so on, and so forth...

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

There's a hard time limit in Decemeber when the Electoral College gets officially divvied out. If they can stall until then, that's it.
And recounts take time and money, and can themselves be stalled.

Well, even then there's the final Hail Mary: the Electoral votes themselves are cast, meaning that there is the potential that the College could flip the whole thing on its head by themselves, but that's getting into serious rainbow territory.

Would make a hell of a story, though...

 

[draggs]

Of course it wont work long term; China is obviously going to surpass the United States at this point and that will be that.

Doesn't mean I want to still be on the plane when it crashes.

I prefer my doom China-flavored for sure

Doom for China that is

 

[Harvey Danger]

During the recount, ballots would be under greater scrutiny.

Yeah. And in a big election year, they wouldn't dare try coordinated fraud. Especially not out in the open!

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

What part of what I just said is not connecting to some of you guys here. Ok, fine. Suppose Trump gets a recount, wins the ones that count that pushes him over the edge. Great. He gets 4 more years. What happens the next election then if the Left gets away with this and try to pull the same stunt? How the next one where the stakes will be bigger? And so on, and so forth...

You're also saying this like we don't actively want tighter election oversight laws in place and understand why they should be in place

 

[Gehenna]

What part of what I just said is not connecting to some of you guys here. Ok, fine. Suppose Trump gets a recount, wins the ones that count that pushes him over the edge. Great. He gets 4 more years. What happens the next election then if the Left gets away with this and try to pull the same stunt? How the next one where the stakes will be bigger? And so on, and so forth...

I don't think ANYONE disagrees that if Trumps somehow pulls it off, this needs to be addressed. In fact, I'd expect it to be a -driving- force in the 2020 elections.

 

[Puerto Pollo]

If this ends up at the Supreme Court, which I think it will, and they vote 6-3 or 5-4 in favor of Trump, I will laugh so hard. They knew filling the seat would be damning for them. If they cry about it, it’s fine because it was them that entirely put into question the legitimacy of elections in the first place. All of this fraud lands squarely on the Democrats.

To think we should all thank this person for making it possible...

 

[verissimus]

For the temporal matters, yes, as seen with Bush vs. Gore. Getting something passed like that at this point in time would be difficult to do. It would be better for the Supreme Court to look at all the contested states, decide which state goes to which candidate, and decide the winner. We are in an emergency right now without calling the states like this. If the Supreme Court has to ultimately call it, then so be it. If people cry about it, I expect it, but there is too much fraud and rot already to honestly pass something like that right now.

I was referring to the future not now. Nancy Pelosi will never vote for Voter ID last I checked.

 

[The Great Autismo]

What part of what I just said is not connecting to some of you guys here. Ok, fine. Suppose Trump gets a recount, wins the ones that count that pushes him over the edge. Great. He gets 4 more years. What happens the next election then if the Left gets away with this and try to pull the same stunt? How the next one where the stakes will be bigger? And so on, and so forth...

What if in the "Trump wins" scenario of this election, he goes so nuclear on them that we finally get politicians going to prison?

 

[Hot Dog]

I genuinely like Lindsey and Mitch. They finally woke up and started fighting during Trump's term. The Republicans are a weak team with a few powerful leaders, but they need support.

 

[Gehenna]

Yeah. And in a big election year, they wouldn't dare try coordinated fraud. Especially not out in the open!

I still hold that it wasn't meant to be in the open. But even then, the recounts are done under -heightened- scrutiny. The kind they'll find a LOT harder to get past.

 

[JambledUpWords]

What part of what I just said is not connecting to some of you guys here. Ok, fine. Suppose Trump gets a recount, wins the ones that count that pushes him over the edge. Great. He gets 4 more years. What happens the next election then if the Left gets away with this and try to pull the same stunt? How the next one where the stakes will be bigger? And so on, and so forth...

This is why I hope Trump wins. Biden/Harris would never pass mandatory voter ID nationwide because they’d lose more votes, seeing as they benefit from dead and illegal voters. If Trump gets four more years, one of his top concerns should be election reform and making the election much harder to rig. If he can accomplish that within the first two years of the presidency, the midterms will be much fairer for everyone.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I'm gonna focus on the short term "but can Mr. Trump get into office again" for now. I know the election broke a lot of things americans held about our government but the trust is unfixable. Possibly re-electing orangeman by the power of the SC is anything from a pipe dream to doable. So the short term problem I'll watch for now and brood on.

Of course we can't hide the man behind the curtain anymore. We can just see how we deal with it and how we react.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Right wing michah Xavier johnson's and christopher dorners when?

I seriously hope people are not dumb enough to start manifestoposting on here; Or start saying anything that would be legimately incriminating IRL.

 

[Coconut Gun]

I was referring to the future not now. Nancy Pelosi will never vote for Voter ID last I checked.

Executive order doesn't give a fuck what Nancy Pelosi wants.

 

[draggs]

Yeah electoral reform to clean up the processes is happening. There is going to be a lot of election legislation and litigation in the next several years no matter who wins this dustup.

 

[iRON-mAn]

There's a hard time limit in Decemeber when the Electoral College gets officially divvied out. If they can stall until then, that's it.
And recounts take time and money, and can themselves be stalled.

I don't see how that happens. They can keep finding ballots and ignoring court orders, but surely that just pushes it to the Supreme Court faster?