2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Pointless Pedant]

In retrospect what made me start to move to the right was seeing them do this with climate science. The cycle went like this

1) "All true scientists believe the planet will turn into Venus unless we implement a set of disastrous policies"
2) A scientist comes forward to quibble with parts of this
3) Scientist is declared not a true scientist because they once did some contract work for an oil company.
4) Goto 1

It's the sort of manufacturing of consent that Noam Chomsky complained about over foreign wars. Chomsky was a crypto commie sack of shit in the Cold War but he was right that the case for the forever wars post Cold War was never as strong as was claimed by the media.

One of the delightful things about having a Democrat President of course is that the forever wars will come back, and the media will patiently explain it's something that just needs to be done, as is accepting the refugees those wars produce.

I doubt Biden would want to blow his very shaky mandate on a war with Iran or Venezuela. Back when Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya happened there was fairly bipartisan support for those wars so the politicians didn't care about burning their support over them (though it hurt McCain badly in 200. Trust in the media was much higher back then too.

 

[ChikN10der]

The thing is, what you just described leaves a trail or is simply impossible.

Deleting footage? Well, "Sorry, but the footage conveniently was deleted yesterday" is going to sound -bad- in front of a judge. You cannot retroactively verify a ballot, that will be checked by the recounters and no amount of scrubbing will make those better. And the narrative to normies doesn't matter. It got fucked as soon as this took over three days to figure out.

Yes, this is why the epstein murder produced so many criminal referrals /sneed

What world do you live in?

 

[captkrisma]

Someone should bring up to these kids that Marx drank and smoked and ate shitty food all while not caring about his wife and 7 kids because he spent all his money on booze, cigars, and shitty food.

His communist manifesto is more projection than anything else. "I wish people didn't rely so much on money" because motherfucker was always broke.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I doubt Biden would want to blow his very shaky mandate on a war with Iran or Venezuela. Back when Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya happened there was fairly bipartisan support for those wars so the politicians didn't care about burning their support over them (though it hurt McCain badly in 200. Trust in the media was much higher back then too.

Biden has NO mandate. A mandate implies a clear victory for the party of the president. This is far from the truth. It was barely a win, and his party lost seats. Indicating there is very little will or tolerance towards any extreme party measures.

 

[Gehenna]

Want to know who Trump should have doing this on the law side? Former prosecutors. Treat it like a criminal case, try to reach Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Have an army of jew lawyers trolling through arguments and precedent.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Someone should bring up to these kids that Marx drank and smoked and ate shitty food all while not caring about his wife and 7 kids because he spent all his money on booze, cigars, and shitty food.

His communist manifesto is more projection than anything else. "I wish people didn't rely so much on money" because motherfucker was always broke.

Biden's not a communist though. He's an establishment neoliberal, same with Harris.

 

[jje100010001]

I doubt Biden would want to blow his very shaky mandate on a war with Iran or Venezuela. Back when Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya happened there was fairly bipartisan support for those wars so the politicians didn't care about burning their support over them (though it hurt McCain badly in 200. Trust in the media was much higher back then too.

I doubt there'll be new wars in the first few years (I could definitely see them starting to organize 'incidents' to agitate for one), but I could see them stopping the withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Afghanistan, more likely due to the resurgence of the Taliban there.

 

[Gehenna]

Yes, this is why the epstein murder produced so many criminal referrals /sneed

What world do you live in?

That's an utter non-sequitor... and a bad example. The Epstein case never got to trial, as you conveniently note. So it never went before a judge. There was nothing to try to clean either, so... again. And the narrative DIDN'T stick, everyone and their dog went "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself".

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

Fairly high. Getting Scotus to hear it should be the easy part, its convincing them of the case and the remedy which will prove difficult.

It depends on the state. I think Wisconsin is going to be a slam dunk. Apparently all absentee ballots have to be in by 9 PM of election day. That literally disqualifies all the ballots coming in 4 AM the next day as per Wisconsin's election rules.

 

[Gehenna]

It depends on the state. I think Wisconsin is going to be a slam dunk. Apparently all absentee ballots have to be in by 9 PM of election day. That literally disqualifies all the ballots coming in 4 AM the next day as per Wisconsin's election rules.

Aye, that's an easy one. Michigan also has enough blatant irregularities to at least force SOME remedy. Pennsylvania is perhaps the hardest of the rust belt states, and will require linking to the other two for a pattern of behavior.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Want to know who Trump should have doing this on the law side? Former prosecutors. Treat it like a criminal case, try to reach Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Have an army of jew lawyers trolling through arguments and precedent.

`What do you think Rudy did in NYC when he was US Attorney for the Southern District? I mean the man was a pit bull in court and coming from NYC you bet there's an army of Jewish lawyers behind him.

 

[Secret Asshole]

`What do you think Rudy did in NYC when he was US Attorney for the Southern District? I mean the man was a pit bull in court and coming from NYC you bet there's an army of Jewish lawyers behind him.

Everyone treats him as a joke, but in reality he was the one who took down the mob in NYC.

 

[General Disarray]

Been thinking on absentee ballots a bit. I think that they should be allowed for very ill, disabled, or military personnel. To facilitate these votes, they must be attested to by one of the following: the administrator(s) of the nursing home where the voter is residing, the primary physician(s) of a hospitalized/quarantined patient, or if they are disabled and are home-bound, they can have a social services worker attest. These people can also act as witnesses, or not, but must sign off on the absentee ballot confirming the medical necessity thereof. Currently in 2/3 of the states, an excuse is not required. Also, some states offer a permanent absentee ballot list: once a voter asks to be added to the list, s/he will automatically receive an absentee ballot for all future elections. This should be statewide but there should also be a requirement for proof that the health or disability of the voter is of that severity long-term.

Voter ID needs to be implemented and subsidized to made voting-only identification available for free through the state.

I don't know how the votes are delivered for counting, but we should be able to easily trace the chain of custody. No more US Mail votes at all. In the case of the military, they would proceed as per their standard procedures (which I assume to be pretty tight, seeing as how they're the military).

Just my morning thoughts.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Been thinking on absentee ballots a bit. I think that they should be allowed for very ill, disabled, or military personnel. To facilitate these votes, they must be attested to by one of the following: the administrator(s) of the nursing home where the voter is residing, the primary physician(s) of a hospitalized/quarantined patient, or if they are disabled and are home-bound, they can have a social services worker attest. These people can also act as witnesses, or not, but must sign off on the absentee ballot confirming the medical necessity thereof. Currently in 2/3 of the states, an excuse is not required. Also, some states offer a permanent absentee ballot list: once a voter asks to be added to the list, s/he will automatically receive an absentee ballot for all future elections. This should be statewide but there should also be a requirement for proof that the health or disability of the voter is of that severity long-term.

Voter ID needs to be implemented and subsidized to made voting-only identification available for free through the state.

I don't know how the votes are delivered for counting, but we should be able to easily trace the chain of custody. No more US Mail votes at all. In the case of the military, they would proceed as per their standard procedures (which I assume to be pretty tight, seeing as how they're the military).

Just my morning thoughts.

Absentee ballot and the "VOTE BY MAIL SERFS" COVID garbage are not the same.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

Aye, that's an easy one. Michigan also has enough blatant irregularities to at least force SOME remedy. Pennsylvania is perhaps the hardest of the rust belt states, and will require linking to the other two for a pattern of behavior.

Maybe, but if Trump gets Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia, then he basically wins. Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania would be nice and he may be building cases for them, but the shit going on in the former 3 states are probably going to be easier wins than the latter 3.

 

[Puff]

Why. Won't. They. Just. Say. Biden. Won.
Hell, why won't Biden just say Biden won?
Edit:

Maybe, but if Trump gets Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia, then he basically wins. Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania would be nice and he may be building cases for them, but the shit going on in the former 3 states are probably going to be easier wins than the latter 3.

Then you try all of them. You're likely to whiff on something.

 

[Tour of Italy]

“No evidence of fraud!”

1. Biden underperforming Hillary in literally every single urban center except in a handful of cities in contested states, even when other cities in those states followed the trend to Trump
2. Poll observers being denied access, counting stations being padlocked and the windows blocked out, even denying a court order for transparency in the case of PA
3. 3000+ votes in NV from registrants who had moved
4. 100k+ votes in MI arriving after the deadline, at night, and counted without bipartisan observers present.
5. Alarming percentage of random sampling showing dead voters still being registered, requesting ballots, and voting, indicating a coordinated effort spanning months.
6. Mail carrier arrested while fleeing to Canada with a trunk full of mail-in votes.
7. Video evidence of ballot harvesting including bribery and coercion of voters
8. Video evidence of mail workers colluding to misplace unfavorable ballots and generate favorable ones
9. Improbable numbers of votes being reported when dumped, statistically showing human involvement in fabricating counts.

Did I miss anything?

Frankly it’s more of a conspiracy theory to believe that the Republicans could coordinate falsifying this many stories than it is to believe that it happened. There are a lot of misunderstandings being shared like wildfire, I’ll admit, but at the end of the day, there’s more than enough here to show that this shit is dirty.

 

[TheOtherOne]

Why. Won't. They. Just. Say. Biden. Won.
Hell, why won't Biden just say Biden won?

I assume it's because if they say Biden won, and then Trump's court cases/recounting works in Trump's favor and he gets at least 270 EVs after that, then they're screwed and have to backtrack. It'll be like Fox calling Arizona way too early, but on a much, much bigger scale.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

“No evidence of fraud!”

1. Biden underperforming Hillary in literally every single urban center except in a handful of cities in contested states, even when other cities in those states followed the trend to Trump
2. Poll observers being denied access, counting stations being padlocked and the windows blocked out, even denying a court order for transparency in the case of PA
3. 3000+ votes in NV from registrants who had moved
4. 100k+ votes in MI arriving after the deadline, at night, and counted without bipartisan observers present.
5. Alarming percentage of random sampling showing dead voters still being registered, requesting ballots, and voting, indicating a coordinated effort spanning months.
6. Mail carrier arrested while fleeing to Canada with a trunk full of mail-in votes.
7. Video evidence of ballot harvesting including bribery and coercion of voters
8. Video evidence of mail workers colluding to misplace unfavorable ballots and generate favorable ones
9. Improbable numbers of votes being reported when dumped, statistically showing human involvement in fabricating counts.

Did I miss anything?

Frankly it’s more of a conspiracy theory to believe that the Republicans could coordinate falsifying this many stories than it is to believe that it happened. There are a lot of misunderstandings being shared like wildfire, I’ll admit, but at the end of the day, there’s more than enough here to show that this shit is dirty.

The question is just whether this is the only reason Biden won the key tipping point states.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Here's an interesting ruling that Steve Bannon mentioned before his stream was cut. Apparently this ruling convinced Gore to drop his case because of the implied threat that the Republican Florida legislature could simply appoint electors.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/00-949
https://archive.vn/wip/sARut

 The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College. U. S. Const., Art. II, §1. This is the source for the statement in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U. S. 1, 35 (1892), that the State legislature’s power to select the manner for appointing electors is plenary; it may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself, which indeed was the manner used by State legislatures in several States for many years after the Framing of our Constitution. Id., at 28–33. History has now favored the voter, and in each of the several States the citizens themselves vote for Presidential electors. When the state legislature vests the right to vote for President in its people, the right to vote as the legislature has prescribed is fundamental; and one source of its fundamental nature lies in the equal weight accorded to each vote and the equal dignity owed to each voter. The State, of course, after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors. See id., at 35 (“[T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated”) (quoting S. Rep. No. 395, 43d Cong., 1st Sess.).

The SCOTUS ruled that state legislatures have 'plenary' power to appoint electors. So my plan for the state legislatures of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania state legislatures say they'll nominate electors unless the elections are re-run. Get the SCOTUS to rule on that.

You know it might work from the way Youtube and Twitter will nuke you from orbit for discussing it. The Democrats' coup can only work if Republicans don't try to do this and decide to take the L.