2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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You guys think Biden will actually come out and declare victory later today, as some reports are saying, given all the stuff that's happening?
No. If he was going to declare before the media he would have by now. Only if the media calls it will he declare.

Edit: Dems in all of the states they didn't or can't massively cheat in are probably scared for their jobs right about now.
 
I wouldn't be too sure. The R side? Most definitely. I don't see the DNC having any sort of cross-aisle appeal any time soon.

The "Vote Blue No Matter What" crowd? Nah.
Yeah, the TDS crowd want Trump out and are plugging their ears and ignoring any and all evidence that there may be something wrong.

I've seen people seriously arguing that the Republicans gaining seats even as Biden wins is just "Never-Trumper conservatives voting against him but retaining their downballot choices". Yes, sure. Never-Trumpers are unseating Trump... even though he's had sky-high approval ratings among his own party. That's totally what's dumping votes in those 99% states.
 
He might yet still.
Agreed- the real fight on their end is convincing a large number of Americans that nothing went wrong.

Gut feeling is that at least a plurality of Americans right now only have the faintest notion of what's going on, or are actively twisting themselves into pretzels denying all allegations because 'their guy' won.

Regardless, I think they'll call GA today (military ballots are not a given), and then plough ahead with Biden holding a conference declaring his victory. That's when the real info blackout will begin.

I would continue compiling and archiving information (even on your computer), if possible.

Yeah, the TDS crowd want Trump out and are plugging their ears and ignoring any and all evidence that there may be something wrong.

I've seen people seriously arguing that the Republicans gaining seats even as Biden wins is just "Never-Trumper conservatives voting against him but retaining their downballot choices". Yes, sure. Never-Trumpers are unseating Trump... even though he's had sky-high approval ratings among his own party. That's totally what's dumping votes in those 99% states.
In only those contested states and nowhere else, especially.

IMO that's the stronger argument. You need to connect these ballots to the fact that they're way out of line compared to the statistical results in nearly every other state.

The notion that Trump has sky-high approval in his party is an isolated fact and irrelevant to the results of the election. You need to compare these voting anomalies to other states where none of this is happening.
 
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If they were cunning, they’d realize that losing with Biden is a better strategy than him squeaking by due to suspicious ballots. The RNC, despite all its faults, was able to take the L with Romney and regroup with midterms and 2016 election and eventually win. The longer the cheating goes on, the more people that will drop the DNC altogether, even if they get a better candidate to run than Biden next time.
The only evidence of cheating we have is you people grasping at straws.
SHOW THE FUCKING PROFF.

Not some fucking vertical video of a fat lady talking about how she totally talked with a guy who did something, the that faggot Okefe and his payed actors.
All i get is "This graph is a bit different then this one" from people who don't know shit about computers and how fucking graphs work.
 
I wouldn't be too sure. The R side? Most definitely. I don't see the DNC having any sort of cross-aisle appeal any time soon.

The "Vote Blue No Matter What" crowd? Nah.
They’ve probably already lost a considerable amount of independents and third party voters that could possibly sympathize with them. Also, the Dem party is still eating itself, and they’ll only alienate more people the longer they do it. It wasn’t a coincidence that there was crossover between Obama voters and Trump voters.
 
The only evidence of cheating we have is you people grasping at straws.
SHOW THE FUCKING PROFF.

Not some fucking vertical video of a fat lady talking about how she totally talked with a guy who did something, the that faggot Okefe and his payed actors.
All i get is "This graph is a bit different then this one" from people who don't know shit about computers and how fucking graphs work.
I take it that you haven't really been paying attention, have you?
 
There is a reason Trump sacked him years ago. He's not wrong about everything but he's not someone you want in charge of White House policy. Frankly he seems to have got crazier since then.

Yeah. I feel the same way about Dinesh D'Souza too. Though Souza has an excuse because get jailed over bullshit would turn anyone a bit ornery. Hell even Michael Flynn, who got the worst treatment, would be expected to go nuts. But he hasn't. He's stoically putting up with it. Meanwhile, Bannon fucked up Alabama, pissed off Trump enough to get canned, and is now pretending he's a revolutionary.

It looks like he's fucked though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Federal_fraud_indictment

Federal prosecutors allege that Bannon and the three other men conspired to use a non-profit group run by Bannon, and a shell company controlled by one of the other defendants, to make payments to themselves, despite promises to donors that their contributions would go to build a wall. Prosecutors also alleged that Bannon received more than $1 million in connection with the plan, some of which was paid to Kolfage in secret[244][239][240] and some of which Bannon and two other defendants allegedly used for personal expenses ranging from paying off credit cards to personal travel.[248] Prosecutors stated that they plan to seize the assets of Bannon's non-profit Citizens of the American Republic, as well as other organizations "politically aligned with [Donald] Trump".[249] Bannon was arrested by U.S. Postal Inspectors on Long Island Sound, off the coast of Connecticut,[250] on board People's Republic of China expatriate Guo Wengui's luxury yacht. Later that day, Bannon pleaded not guilty to the charges.[239][251] Bannon was released pending trial on a $5 million bond, of which Bannon is required to put up $1.7 million.[243] He was required to surrender his passport and his domestic travel was restricted.[252] Following the indictment, Donald Trump[253] and his son, Donald Trump Jr. distanced themselves from Bannon. Trump Jr. had originally been supportive of Bannon's fundraising efforts for the Trump wall.[254][255][256][245]

I guess he sees this as his final huzzah before he gets completely D'Souza'd and he's getting his crazy in first. It's worth pointing out his money-raising was probably a grift.
 
The state house has to confirm the election. if they dont they can just nominate electors...

They absolutely 100% will not just say fuckit and ignore the election. Unless they have bulletproof evidence that there was irreparable fraud that cannot be fixed, and even then, the second they do the DNC would rush to the SCOTUS. They'd HAVE to, just to prevent being lynched by their own supporters.

And besides, most of the fuckery is in blue states with blue houses, right?
 
Yeah, the TDS crowd want Trump out and are plugging their ears and ignoring any and all evidence that there may be something wrong.

I've seen people seriously arguing that the Republicans gaining seats even as Biden wins is just "Never-Trumper conservatives voting against him but retaining their downballot choices". Yes, sure. Never-Trumpers are unseating Trump... even though he's had sky-high approval ratings among his own party. That's totally what's dumping votes in those 99% states.
Don't forget all those ballots who mysteriously voted Biden and no one else. Not even straight ticket Dem.
 
Honestly, I'm still feeling 75% Biden/25% Trump. There's just too many guns lined up, too many people want ignorance and want to go back to sleep. All I'm asking for is an investigation. If you've got a problem with that, then I don't know what to say.
Some hope has come your way as of ten minutes ago. McConnell is getting on board the judicial quest. Not a full throated endorsement, but noting that taking things to the courts in a disputed election is normal, and saying the Trump line of only accepting legal votes. This is a shift, it shows Republicans are beginning to back the President.
 
Honestly, I'm still feeling 75% Biden/25% Trump. There's just too many guns lined up, too many people want ignorance and want to go back to sleep. All I'm asking for is an investigation. If you've got a problem with that, then I don't know what to say.
I put the odds at about 95/5 for Biden. The fraud investigations will get tossed out at the last minute in the courts. They’re banking on the vast majority of the country accepting the results. Too many steaks need grilled, too much media to consoom, and they just bank on apathy, which is not a bad bet. Especially if Democrats make overtures to big brained centrism who just want the can kicked down the road.
 
Some hope has come your way as of ten minutes ago. McConnell is getting on board the judicial quest. Not a full throated endorsement, but noting that taking things to the courts in a disputed election is normal, and saying the Trump line of only accepting legal votes. This is a shift, it shows Republicans are beginning to back the President.
Because GA's senate seat is going to be in danger if that happens.

The Dems are going to play for keeps in the runoff election. If they win, that gives the Democrats control of everything.
 
Some hope has come your way as of ten minutes ago. McConnell is getting on board the judicial quest. Not a full throated endorsement, but noting that taking things to the courts in a disputed election is normal, and saying the Trump line of only accepting legal votes. This is a shift, it shows Republicans are beginning to back the President.

Or, they're seeing stuff in the background and being convinced that there's fuckery afoot.
 
Some hope has come your way as of ten minutes ago. McConnell is getting on board the judicial quest. Not a full throated endorsement, but noting that taking things to the courts in a disputed election is normal, and saying the Trump line of only accepting legal votes. This is a shift, it shows Republicans are beginning to back the President.

That's Rubio's line too. He hates Trump but he presumably agrees with me that letting this stand puts his position in danger next election.
 
Some hope has come your way as of ten minutes ago. McConnell is getting on board the judicial quest. Not a full throated endorsement, but noting that taking things to the courts in a disputed election is normal, and saying the Trump line of only accepting legal votes. This is a shift, it shows Republicans are beginning to back the President.
Good. They need to go all in or die. If they lose this it won't matter anyway because we'll be fucked imo.

This isn't about Trump winning. I don't care if they throw the actual election out and set it later or whatever. If the election is fradulent, which in my opinion it looks like, it needs to be called out for it and whichever side did the fraud cannot be allowed to win.
 
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