2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[graham_cracker]

I can already feel the smug replies about: "What should we do then?" so I am going to pre-empt them:

If you have the money plan to eventually leave the country for better long term opportunities, maybe work with China or something I dunno.

If you don't have the money you are probably fucked tbh.

Anything else should have been done 30 years ago if you wanted to change anything.

I've been thinking Australia tbh, seems like it might be ok in the long-term. I have a STEM background from a very reputable technical college with what is a currently a great tech job, rich boomer parents, zero debt, no girlfriend/desire to start a family, and live in an extremely nimby/gentrified area that is far away from any major cities, so I'm in a pretty good situation as it is.

I have a feeling the future will mostly just be prolonged decay where the lucky few like myself and my family continue to do well, but the vast majority of youth--both left and right--further slide into serfdom with the delusion that there is a political solution for their problems. Its easy for me to say "just focus on yourself and you'll be fine" when I have such good fortune so fuck if I know what to do if you lack money or are stuck in some shithole city.

 

[mr.moon1488]

The Signs of rigging, according to this article, are all there.
Edit: ninja'd

Lol, I love how the article is using Africa as an example. I guess now we are dah KANGZ!

Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs - BBC News

archived 6 Nov 2020 17:33:36 UTC

archive.is

 

[HumanHive]

No, no. The opportune moment is after the lawsuits are thrown out for Trump. That's when the nation's right-wing movement will be at complete demoralization. From there, all you need is a little kick to the hornet's nest.

We NEED that glownigger rating.

You have no fucking logistical and economic support dude. In a Civil War you’ll be struggling to supply yourself with food and clothing, never mind guns and ammo. Add to that the fact the past 20 years have all been spent fighting asymmetrical warfare, and you’re fucking droned out of the gate. Stop it with this shit before we’re all laughing at what kind of porn the FBI finds on your harddrive.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

That's what happened with the Conservative party in the UK, they could only win beginning with Cameron by being in fact the Labour party, and the same thing will happen here with the Republican party. Many people have said it and it's true - if Trump does not rightfully win in the courts, this country will never again have a non-radical leftist president - ever.

They also ditched the shit out of his Cameronian attitudes and policies the second the pendulum swung to be more electorally viable.

May sold herself as the second coming of the Iron Lady but turned out to be a rust bucket, then we elected a populist liberal in the traditional sense who found himself with an entire mountain range to climb.

 

[It's HK-47]

Before anyone completely loses their asses, keep in mind that there's going to be a very intimidating-looking speed bump coming up the road in just a moment. In order for this lawsuit to begin in the courts, the plaintiff is going to need to plead a case that harm was done. You can't meaningfully instigate a case unless you can definitively prove that harm resulted from the actions of the defendant. In this case, the argument has to be that the Democrats were creating fraudulent ballots and stealing the elections in various states. In order for this claim to have any weight in the court, the state has to be stolen, first.

Trump's legal team has already filed complaints in all of the requisite states, and that's why they were very selective about the states that they challenged, because there's no point in filing a suit in a state that you've already won, anyways. In order for those cases to go up into the courts, Joe Biden needs to 'win' them, first. When or if that happens, please try to refrain from suck-starting your own shotguns and keep in mind that despite what the New York Times might say, the media does not decide the outcome of an election, and that this is not only expected, it's a necessary part of the process.


A state being called in Joe's favour isn't the definitive end of the discussion, it's just where the legal discussion begins.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I can already feel the smug replies about: "What should we do then?" so I am going to pre-empt them:

If you have the money plan to eventually leave the country for better long term opportunities, maybe work with China or something I dunno.

If you don't have the money you are probably fucked tbh. Again I dunno, maybe check if you have any foriegn friends eventually willing to throw you a lifeline or something.

Anything else should have been done 30 years ago if you wanted to change anything.

Nah, methinks all you need are a pile of mud to wallow in and a group of exceptional individuals to join your pity party. Which is why you keep trying to spike this thread with black pills.

 

[Gehenna]

Has anyone else been seeing this posted elsewhere? It will take a little time for me to research this.

Biden did WORSE THAN HILLARY in EVERY major city EXCEPT......Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Atlanta, GA, and Philadelphia, PA. Just so happens to be the 4 swing states.....amazing, huh??

All sections of New York City pan out for that claim.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Reading through this thread and I Have legit questions for all of you:
- why are you so convinced there was widespread fraud? Because trump said so? Because there just has to be bc of so many mail ins?
-you realize we are only this fucked up situation bc the republican legislatures of these key states wouldn’t allow ballots opened until Election Day? If they didn’t have those rules those states would be called already like all the others and we wouldn’t be in this mess. It’s an entirely republican created mess.
-If dems wanted to cheat why didn’t they win Ohio? Florida? The senate?

Also, be happy. republicans still have upper hand in general. With McConnell blocking every liberal bill coming from the house and blocking all of Biden’s judicial appointments for next 4 years zero will get Done. Plus get ready for decades of conservative Supreme Court decisions

See my previous post:

“No evidence of fraud!”

1. Biden underperforming Hillary in literally every single urban center except in a handful of cities in contested states, even when other cities in those states followed the trend to Trump
2. Poll observers being denied access, counting stations being padlocked and the windows blocked out, even denying a court order for transparency in the case of PA
3. 3000+ votes in NV from registrants who had moved
4. 100k+ votes in MI arriving after the deadline, at night, and counted without bipartisan observers present.
5. Alarming percentage of random sampling showing dead voters still being registered, requesting ballots, and voting, indicating a coordinated effort spanning months.
6. Mail carrier arrested while fleeing to Canada with a trunk full of mail-in votes.
7. Video evidence of ballot harvesting including bribery and coercion of voters
8. Video evidence of mail workers colluding to misplace unfavorable ballots and generate favorable ones
9. Improbable numbers of votes being reported when dumped, statistically showing human involvement in fabricating counts.

Did I miss anything?

Frankly it’s more of a conspiracy theory to believe that the Republicans could coordinate falsifying this many stories than it is to believe that it happened. There are a lot of misunderstandings being shared like wildfire, I’ll admit, but at the end of the day, there’s more than enough here to show that this shit is dirty.

 

[alreadyhome]

If you want to see a glimpse of the dismal future in this country, just take a gander at the other election thread on this site.

 

[Kane Lives]

im not convinced of "widespread fraud", but theres inconsistencies enough in key areas and the timing of it all is off
regarding the count, its gotta depend on manpower. solution = hire more people. they failed to do so, ofc
the Dems didn´t wanted to cheat, i think they believed they didn´t have to. but as election night went on and Nate Bronze went on suicide watch, someone somewhere realized that a couple hundred thousand votes could be slipped in here and there. right side of history, by any means necessary

i actually hope Trump is full of it and a sore loser. im just not convinced, thats the case.

I think most of us here will agree that it's not really widespread fraud. Just targeted fraud in the five swing states that Biden so happened to need to win. You're probably right that it was a rush decision by someone because of the way the results were shaping up that night.

Contrast 2020 Broward/Miami-Dade country counting with 2016. Very smooth this year, now that the corrupt Brenda Snipes was ousted.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I was looking for this tweet when it passed on my feed, and now I got it.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-decision-desk-announces-joe-biden-elected-46th-president-united-states/?ff_source=Twitter&ff_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&ff_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

https://archive.vn/KcIZQ

 

[alreadyhome]

They also ditched the shit out of his Cameronian attitudes and policies the second the pendulum swung to be more electorally viable.

May sold herself as the second coming of the Iron Lady but turned out to be a rust bucket, then we elected a populist liberal in the traditional sense who found himself with an entire mountain range to climb.

Al Johnson has proven to be one of the most pathetic people who's ever acquired power in the world.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Correct. The Constitution is very clear, Judges do NOT get to decide how elections are ran. By changing the law by fiat, they did so, which is a Federal Constitution violation. Worse, the Mail in Ballot law has a provision that if any part of the law is ... broken? Compromised? ... the entire law is invalidated -- that means, No Mail in Ballots, AT ALL, for the entire state.

The GOP basically wrote a poison pill into the law just in case they performed some kind of fuckery.

Only remedy I can see would be them invalidating ALL the mail in ballots, which is what they have to do according to state law. What does that do to the vote count? Did they ever keep the two tallys separate, or did they whoopsydoodle fuck that up too just to make it harder to fix afterwards?

They keep it separate. ~ 6m in person, ~3m mail in.

 

[verissimus]

Reading through this thread and I Have legit questions for all of you:
- why are you so convinced there was widespread fraud? Because trump said so? Because there just has to be bc of so many mail ins?
-you realize we are only this fucked up situation bc the republican legislatures of these key states wouldn’t allow ballots opened until Election Day? If they didn’t have those rules those states would be called already like all the others and we wouldn’t be in this mess. It’s an entirely republican created mess.
-If dems wanted to cheat why didn’t they win Ohio? Florida? The senate?

Also, be happy. republicans still have upper hand in general. With McConnell blocking every liberal bill coming from the house and blocking all of Biden’s judicial appointments for next 4 years zero will get Done. Plus get ready for decades of conservative Supreme Court decisions

I'm assuming you are asking this in earnest, so I'll try to answer you back with earnest

1) God no I don't believe there's fraud just because Trump said so. I take the word of people here more seriously than from him. As to some of those reasons why I believe there's something fishy going on? Well let's at least look at a few circumstantial evidence :

A) Biden somehow outperformed Obama and Hillary;
B) There is no justification why for example states like Florida and Texas (never mind others) which is significantly larger and more populous than say Georgia, Michigan, etc. not only could tally there votes fasters, but not show any known signs thus far of shenanigans;
C) There's no justification as to why the vote counting is intermittently stopping all the sudden;
D) It doesn't make sense, in I believe it was Wisconsin, why Biden's count spiked that high and that much to overtake Trump in the middle of the night/morning;
E) Poll watchers are clearly being pushed away from areas where discrepancies are happening...etc.

I could go on to list a lot of other circumstantial evidence that has been posted here that, but for the time being, you can look them up elsewhere.

2) Don't know enough about this situation you speak of regarding Republican legislatures, so I won't comment on it with the exception of agreeing that Republicans were certainly naive about the potential situation they would have to face; and

3) They might not have wanted to cheat in Ohio and Florida either because A) they have a Republican Governor and Legislature and/or B) they didn't have people they could count on to engage in fraud. Compare this to many of the states where there were discrepancies going on such as Wisconsin and Michigan.

 

[Slimy Time]

This. Nobody's having boat parades and 50,000 person rallies at 12 hours notice for Nikki Haley or Mitt Romney.

If Trump doesn't win with lawfare and ensure states commit to a Florida-style rigor in counting votes, then Democrats will own the country.
The GOP offered much of America nothing to get excited about. Trump was like a giant orange band-aid. With such flagrant disregard for even the appearance of impartiality in counting ballots, the GOP will never be allowed anywhere near power again, not unless they truly sell out and become ostensibly the Democrats with speed bumps.

They (barring a few exceptions) don't have the finger on the pulse of conservative voters. Never Trumpers and "principled conservatives" really believe that conservatives will want another neocon or milquetoast principled conservative after the "craziness" of Trump. No one wants another Romney or McCain or (god forbid) another Bush. Some milquetoast, inoffensive "aw shucks" politician who will charge into the middle east with reckless abandon and will fold "gracefully and with dignity" to anything the Democrats want.

You see it with some of them resigning from positions, or with the Fox news coverage. Some of them really think if they "lose gracefully" that come 2022 or 2024 people will welcome them with open arms. One of the reasons Trump generates the amount of visible support in rallies that he does and won 2016 is because he will fight. The GOP were fucked the moment Trump won the nomination because whether it is now or in 4 years time, barring a few exceptions, they don't have anyone who their base will like or generate momentum like he does.

The only members I see who have their finger on the pulse of their base atm are Cruz, Graham and maybe cocaine Mitch, and even Mitch seemed reluctant to do anything until he realised that senate control was in danger. A lot of the rest are the same sort of shit that came in 2016.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Who could have guessed? https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1324410758646681602.html

https://archive.vn/NUoHx

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Google will fix that as soon as one of their hipsters soyfags stops patrolling youtube for wrongthink.



Cool. Lets take a look.

Biden: 3,302,824 49.50%
In Person: 1,400,830
Mail: 1,901,755
Provisional: 142

Trump: 3,293,143 49.35%
In Person: 2,725,891
Mail: 566,619
Provisional: 549

Jo whoever the fuck cares: 76,447 1.15%
In Person: 53,188
Mail: 23,247
Provisional: 10

Nuke the Mail in Ballots, as required by state law:

Biden: 1,400,830 33.5%
In Person: 1,400,830
Provisional: 142

Trump: 2,726,440 65.2%
In Person: 2,725,891
Provisional: 549

Jo whoever the fuck cares: 53,198 1.27%
In Person: 53,188
Provisional: 10

This will never happen. It should. But there is no way the SCOTUS would do it. Even though it is extremely clear in the law how this should work. Only a SCOTUS that is majority Originalist would completely invalidate the Living Constitution fuckery that they performed in PA by changing the law by fiat, and there's no way.

Why wouldn't they? 3 out of the 6 conservative SCOTUS judges have a major axe to grind with the Dems and the violation is black and white. Seems like it should work.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1324759281158291456

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1324744613308059649

DOJ is looking into the Nevada out of staters voting

Utah Attorney General is taking personal leave to join the legal fight, citing that the election process is compromised.

 

[Gehenna]

I'm assuming you are asking this in earnest, so I'll try to answer you back with earnest

1) God no I don't believe there's fraud just because Trump said so. I take the word of people here more seriously than from him. As to some of those reasons why I believe there's something fishy going on? Well let's at least look at a few circumstantial evidence :

A) Biden somehow outperformed Obama and Hillary;
B) There is no justification why for example states like Florida and Texas (never mind others) which is significantly larger and more populous than say Georgia, Michigan, etc. not only could tally there votes fasters, but not show any known signs thus far of shenanigans;
C) There's no justification as to why there is vote counting is intermittently stopping all the sudden;
D) It doesn't make sense, in I believe it was Wisconsin, why Biden's count spike that high and that much to overtake Trump in the middle of the night/morning;
E) Poll watchers are clearly being pushed away from areas were discrepancies are happening...etc.

I could go to list a lot of other circumstantial evidence that has been posted here that, for the time being you can look up elsewhere.

2) Don't know enough about this situation you speak of regarding Republican legislatures, so I won't comment on it with the exception of agreeing that Republicans were certainly naive about the potential situation they would have to face; and

3) They might have wanted to cheat in Ohio and Florida either because A) they have a Republican Governor and Legislature and/or B) they didn't have people they could count on to engage in fraud. Compare this to many of the states where there are discrepancies going on such as Wisconsin and Michigan.

Let me tag on some things: For his 1: We also have a massive breach of Benford's Law. Something used to determine fraudulent elections in places like Africa or South America. That right there is not just circumstantial, its damning..

Additionally, republican legislatures in Pennsylvania did try to prevent this. And with their ruling, their supreme court handed Trump a massively strong legal case.

In terms of Ohio and Florida, the primary fraud appears to be through mail in ballots. Both those states counted and tallied their mail in ballots prior to election day, only tabulating them ON the day. Compared to the other swing states which did all of it later. As to why not the senate, the simplest reasons are either A: They needed to do this fast or B: They wanted to avoid opening additional court cases against them.

 

[JambledUpWords]

They (barring a few exceptions) don't have the finger on the pulse of conservative voters. Never Trumpers and "principled conservatives" really believe that conservatives will want another neocon or milquetoast principled conservative after the "craziness" of Trump. No one wants another Romney or McCain or (god forbid) another Bush. Some milquetoast, inoffensive "aw shucks" politician who will charge into the middle east with reckless abandon and will fold "gracefully and with dignity" to anything the Democrats want.

You see it with some of them resigning from positions, or with the Fox news coverage. Some of them really think if they "lose gracefully" that come 2022 or 2024 people will welcome them with open arms. One of the reasons Trump generates the amount of visible support in rallies that he does and won 2016 is because he will fight. The GOP were fucked the moment Trump won the nomination because whether it is now or in 4 years time, barring a few exceptions, they don't have anyone who their base will like or generate momentum like he does.

The only members I see who have their finger on the pulse of their base atm are Cruz, Graham and maybe cocaine Mitch, and even Mitch seemed reluctant to do anything until he realised that senate control was in danger. A lot of the rest are the same sort of shit that came in 2016.

I refuse to believe that Trump won Ohio, but lost places like Wisconsin and Michigan, both places that he won by a fair margin against Hillary. If you look at past election data, none of this makes sense. 200% turnout in places like Milwaukee? I want Trump to challenge as many states as possible for this, seeing as how our vote count methods need massive reform. With Trump’s popularity, Joe somehow squeaking by is insulting.