Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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BaldDwight said:
https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/0dd425c5
Maybe do your research and go to the us social security death index to see how many william bradley are out there?
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Call me tinfoiled, but I'd rather trust somebody who checked their dead family member's voting registration rather than literally any media whatsoever (Especially since there's been precedent in other elections), though thanks for the website. It does seem like it'd be useful for future usage.

Also, try not to be so condescending. It's usually bad form to antagonize someone who's mostly neutral towards you. If you want to believe that there were no shenanigans in this election, then all the more power to you. You wouldn't be the first reality denier. People who honestly believe their votes aren't tampered with to this day, despite fuckery being found out and smothered since before the 2000s, are silly.
 
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Star Stuff said:
Call me tinfoiled, but I'd rather trust somebody who checked their dead family member's voting registration rather than literally any media whatsoever (Especially since there's been precedent in other elections), though thanks for the website. It does seem like it'd be useful for future usage.

Also, try not to be so condescending. It's usually bad form to antagonize someone who's mostly neutral towards you. If you want to believe that there were no shenanigans in this election, then all the more power to you. You wouldn't be the first reality denier. People honestly believe their votes aren't tampered with to this day despite fuckery being found out and smothered since before the 2000s.
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Just 1 question: If you think Democrat's vote is tempered, why would you exclude the possibility of some votes were tempered in flavour of Trump in both 2016 and now?

Also, your antagonism is showing with calling me a reality denier. I am here to discuss with you guys about the possibility of voter fraud, and I can accept that it happens if there is damning evidence about it. Calling me a reality denier just show that you are dead sure on there is a fraud and you would not accept people telling you otherwise while providing evidence that counters what you belief.
 
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BaldDwight said:
Just 1 question: If you think Democrat's vote is tempered, why would you exclude the possibility of some votes were tempered in flavour of Trump in both 2016 and now?
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I'm not? I literally only said the votes were tampered with and I'm positive that there was Republican tampering in response like there was since, again, the pre-2000s. The whole system is a joke. My issue is with people who think cheating is completely absent.

EDIT: There's an entire thread on voting fuckery. There was fuckery in the last election. There was fuckery in the one before that. There's been an endless stream as both parties play in a tug of war for power while ignoring what the common people want. This isn't the first time it's happened. If it rains everyday and I see stormclouds coming in the next day, it's a bit blind to say there won't be another shower.

Despite my distaste for proving negatives, as they're usually impossible, it's slowly becoming more reasonable to shift the burden of proof on those who say there is no chicanery. It's gone too long and has been too consistent. It grows more blatant with every election, which is why people grow more agitated. So, as much as you have a point in that me calling you such a thing is antagonizing, you are still a reality denier all the same.
 
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The Republicans have become a party without an institutional base. The traditionally rightwing institutional sectors have evaporated. The GOP might still act like the party of the corporations and the rich but hasn’t had the support of either for years, it isn’t just Trump.

No sector supports conservatives anymore. Not the corporations, not the churches, not the military. These have all been taken over and gathered along with the traditionally leftwing institutions in the Democrat big tent and they are firmly the party of the establishment now. The Right that opposes this is a hodgepodge of loosely aligned albeit large demographic splinters that give private support as individuals, united more by opposition to policies than anything else.

The Right continues to have less of an identity than the Left. Groups that support the Left do so far more homogenously than the Right. This is a disadvantage because you have to grab more undecideds out of the gate.

The Left is far better organized and fights a far more comprehensive war where they act both at but especially outside the ballot box. You don't win just by getting elected, you win in the classroom, through a satirical tv series, by instituting mandatory workshops pushing your ideology at the workplace etc etc.

The Right globally struggles with the fact that they've allowed the game to be defined as a one way ratchet. The Left wants change the Right doesn't. Once a change has been made the Left uses its influence to make it unthinkable to go back. You either go one way or you don't . The right on the other hand struggles to have any message except not to do what the Left wants. If you want the one reason why conservatives fail just look at the name.

The Republicans are headed for some sort of reckoning. I foresee a few different possibilities.

A: They compromise themselves into a progressive-lite version of the Dems. (only 62 genders instead of 67) while the Dems move further Left. Similar to what the conservative parties in western Europe have done. This is the path they were headed on before Trump. And/or you have the dems split into a corporatist/technocrat prog vs far left and those are the two factions.

B. They somehow bridge the gap and appeal to nonwhite conservatives and/or develop a true message

C. Stormfront’s dream comes true and whites miraculously rocket back to demographic dominance and are somehow conservative again.

D. They collapse and are replaced or reorganized into essentially a new party.

If I had to choose I think A will happen in the short term and D will happen in the long term…to both parties. In the end I believe this SJW bender we’ve been on is simply unsustainable. The question is how long will it continue. Worst case scenario, we’re headed to a new Dark Age where society top to bottom is centered around and everybody is obsessed with intersectionality and transgender bathrooms instead of visiting shrines and praying the rosary.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
At the end of the day, I just want Woke to go away, it only got 1000 times worse under Trump.

Now that Trump is gone it's quite possible the left is going to calm the fuck down a bit.
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I expect the browbeating with woke to get worse. The fact people chose Trump at all and made fun of rioting soy terrorists will just embolden their madness.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
At the end of the day, I just want Woke to go away, it only got 1000 times worse under Trump.

Now that Trump is gone it's quite possible the left is going to calm the fuck down a bit.
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The left is moving towards a post-Trump America. Remember they don't just hate Trump, but also all the people who voted for him.
I'd be expecting more of a "we need to do more now that we have power to prevent another Trump"
 
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