2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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A lot of people in this thread confusing the fall of the Roman Republic with the fall of the Roman Empire, which were 500 years apart and completely different circumstances.

Not to mention that you had the 3rd Century Crisis as a dividing line between the Principate and the Orientalized/Christian Era, where the argument can be made that it was an entirely different nation there as well.
 
Dude, for real, I don't think you get it - once they cheat, you're not getting the equity of a vote back, ever again.
You are right on everything except they have been cheating all along. The problem for the Democrats is that this time it's so blatant and obvious even a deaf. dumb and blind retard can tell they cheated. They, and by they I mean both parties, have been rigging elections since the Boss Tweed era in the 19th century. They have been cheating the entire time.

Let me give you some examples: no one liked Hillary in New York. She was an obvious carpetbagger. She promised upstate NY the moon and promptly ignored them. She voted for the Iraq War. And then she was reelected to the Senate again despite virtually everyone hating the mere mention of her name; it was universal among conservatives and liberals. De Blasio? Same thing, everyone, including liberals, hate his guts yet he's serving a second term as Mayor of NYC. The same is true of Cuomo.

The reason this scum are in charge is that it's all decided in backrooms and the votes are counted before the election. NYC's corruption is so embedded I think its began when that crafty Lenape sold Stuyvesant the island of Manhattan when he was well aware it didn't belong to him. Rigged elections are the norm, not the exception. What happened here is Trump, being an outlier, has so unnerved the political machine that the people running it made fatal mistakes and now its out in the open for everyone to see.

You are right in warning that letting them get away with it now will shred any pretense of fair and free elections in the future. They will institute their authoritarian regime with the facade of "democracy". The police will arrest people for wrongthink and anyone who ever attended a Trump rally will be blacklisted from jobs and payment processors.

If Biden is installed as President anyone identifying as Republican is the enemy. This is our future. I'm changing my party registration while I'm in NYC (I'll be Democrat in name only though) because as someone said it'll be open season on anyone that isn't a member of the Party, upholds the ideals of the Party and votes for the Party.
 
A lot of people in this thread confusing the fall of the Roman Republic with the fall of the Roman Empire, which were 500 years apart and completely different circumstances.

Not to mention that you had the 3rd Century Crisis as a dividing line between the Principate and the Orientalized/Christian Era, where the argument can be made that it was an entirely different nation there as well.

"Emperor Donald Augustus Trump" Has a nice ring to it though.
 
All that America asks of the Republican state legislatures of Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania is not that they give up their lives like Nathan Hale, but that they vote to protect their grift, jobs, and immunity from prosecution. And all that will happen to them is that blue checkmarks will continue to say mean things about them. They're not going to shot by the Red Coats or turned into hamburger meat by German machine guns as they disembark at Omaha beach.

I think if they won't do that then is this even America anymore?

They worked hard for that grift. Why let another bunch of grifters steal it from them?
 
Another vidya of suspicious acts in Philly- "counting absentee ballots in the lunchroom, without a supervisor". Archive if you can.

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I can already guess, jEWESS from Lower Merion. I grew up eating roast beef, chicken fat, & onion sandwiches on rye from Hymie's in Merion so i'm expert level on our locals. I bet my aunt knows who she is. (sadly a dem pollwatcher)
Bet she's also thrilled that LM is forcing Gladwyne kids to read a book about how they SHOULD hate being white and also sign a pledge not to be racist.
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Tucker made a great point that Biden can assert his legitimate standing as potential president elect by calling for transparency.

But all I am seeing is smug ridicule, censorship, don't question the democrats and weird ass silence. Like other than Pelosi, no democrat is like protecting Biden or congratulating him. However Bernie is still cucking for Biden.

Another point is Trump basically found a way to win elections without even winning a single urban shithole. 70 million votes without New York or Los Angeles.

For comparison, Obama had around 69 million which had him winning the top 10 biggest cities in America.

Expands the GOP and manages to get a higher turnout as an incumbent as democrat numbers.

This election is super spooky shit.

Fuck Cucker Swanson. His social circle is more important to him than further outing Huntard. I would out my closest relatives and friends if they got involved in such sleazy crap and the future of America was at risk.

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Maybe she tried to give him a bit of encouragement the only way she knows how and the Viagra gave him a heart attack.
Biden doesn't like blacks or indians so no way he allowed her to give him a beejer
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Yeah, that re-count in Michigan in 2016 got shut down real fast once some sketchy stuff was starting to surface. The DNC paid Jill Stein to fuck off and stop it.

I think that the DNC's plan with this election was to use fraud to make it appear to be a close election, with Biden squeaking by. Then, the counting stopped in several states on Election Night because they did not anticipate for Trump to get the numbers that he was getting, as he outperformed BIGLY this year. Once Florida and Ohio got called for Trump, that's when things started to get screwy. I imagine the Dems panicked and were all like "Ballot printer go BRRRRR!" Hence, the outrageous numbers coming out after 4am. The numbers are outrageous, because they needed them to be outrageous to top Trump's numbers.

They are so knee-deep in shit for being so brazen with fraud that they can't let Biden concede now (as that would look really suspect). Right now, their best bet is to just let it ride out and hope that Biden wins. And it might actually work, let's be real.

The absolute silence from the DNC is deafening, though. Aside from less than a handful of people (Pelosi, Bernie, AOC, etc), the Dems have been eerily quiet.

Any registered voter in PA can request a list for all absentee voters. I imagine it's the same for other battleground states or rather any state.
There are also Databrokers who sell the info packaged together.
Additionally anyone with some cash to play with can spend 2k and change per 5 million to have them checked against National Address Change Database going back four years.
And SSDI (death records) can be checked via Ancestry.com or on a large scale via LMDF records.
Unless they scrub records or burn shitz down this info will come out.

In the 1960 election, where they cheated, got caught by the recount, inaugurated their people anyway who promptly killed the investigation their excuse was 'human frailty'. This is in an election where the recount showed vote numbers claimed in some districts were distorted by over 40%. At that level of fraud, voting becomes meaningless - the side doing the fraud can get walking corpse into office. Even if the corpse has a crackhead son who took millions from China and his opponent can fill stadiums with his supporters.



No. Each county gets its own vote printing done by their own contractor. There's no way for someone at the top to get them all watermarked without the people running the counties finding out.

Theoretically, the POTUS could send the FBI/DOJ, etc to mark ballots but the FBI and DOJ are not on his side. If he'd tried that they'd have just leaked it, the media would have said 'DRUMPFLER USING NAZI ERA TACTIC TO TRACK VOTERS' and it would have backfire one him.

People like Kathy Boockvar were in charge of the disputed elections and they'll all have made every change they could to make fraud hard or even impossible to find. They even broke the law to do it over the objections of the state legislature.

Now with a bit of luck, those state legislatures will use their plenary power to do something about this but that will be reported as 'DRUMPFLER STOOGES OVERRIDING DEMOCRACY AND STEALING VOTES FROM PROUD TRXNSWOMXYN OF COLOR. ANTFI AND BLM PLEASE RIOT' so they might well decide to take the L and give up the whole politics thing and just let the Democrats unseat them next time and hope they can stay off AOC's list if they go down without a fight.


Shapiro AG and Kathy royally fckd up by tweeting their hatred of Trump. They're SOL. The Commonwealth is so bonkers. A trannie d1ck who let many seniors expire from covid 19 under its terrible leadership and a literal Thanos socilaist who hates whitey. Well Thanos snap was undone and these farud votes will be also.
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Generally speaking, the DOJ doesn't talk about anti-counterfeit measures, specifically because they don't want people to know about them.

Here's how I know things are fucked though -- in multiple states that flipped Biden, they had to manually count a few votes because the ballots were the wrong size.

How the fuck would the ballots be the wrong size?!

Let me guess, insane people in Delco (delaware cty. pa) are claiming that? Dumb and corrupt.

Well, I remember someone pointing out that the Democrats' plan was to turn Georgia into the Illinois of the south where they have their trademark "one city controls the entire state" since most of the Biden votes seem rooted around Atlanta/Fulton County and how Atlanta is painted as this "eclectic cultural center" and may even have people from other cities moving there.

That plan is failing apart since the Secretary of State is a republican who recently commplimented Trump and also has an active voter fraud task force. He was already in process of going after 100 plus dirty votes. One of the cases involves people double voting of 1000 votes.

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How many times am I going to have to post this


And don't tell me that was a joke, because I and millions of people aren't laughing.

In jest, there is always truth. -W.S.

Denying reality, yet again, you shameless conservatard?

Smh.

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The founding fathers thought we were white too. Meanwhile we're as white as Zoe Saldana.

Do people genuinely believe trump will be able to convince all 5 states to go red? Regardless of how they argue that, its essentially what theyre arguing for.

Anyways people here dont see the forrest through the trees. The Dems always have a shitload of backup plans, look at Biden, if he died in march they had 3 other fuckers to pass the torch to. Right now we're on plan C, but say Trump manages to get every court to side with him and get him declared winner. We still have faithless electors to worry about. And last time they made up 2% of the votes imagine how many there would be this go round. Even worse any swing that happens forces GOP to argue aganist the electoral college and thereby screwing themselves later on.

I genuinely dont see trump being president, he either has to strike the proverbial fort sumter or let the Dems win. Going through the courts is great for libs because although the courts can hold out forever we have a clear 4 week deadline for the electoral college. Trump finds all the evidence he needs, thats fine. But it has to get into the open quick because he has a statute of limitations of 4 weeks.

And beyond that he has to convince the electoral college delegates too. All it takes is a handful of turncoats and hes fucked. And considering how much the left loves 12 angry men. You know that instant fame would be very tempting for whoever ends up being forced to say their state voted for trump

I'm highly disturbed by Jared pushing David Barrie as leader of the Trump Team. Dude is rumored, but not proven, to have swindled old rich MAGAs possibly. Kinda tainted. He also looks like every Union Thug type and isn't a lawyer.
I would be happier if a lawyer was in charge because this can be reduced to a simple path for Trump to remain President.
Mailed and absentee ballots are easily challenged in a recount, and recounts can be delayed long enough to kick the election to the House of Representatives — where the vote is by state delegation, not each representative. Not that complicated and in this Election should be very easy to point out.
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shared this in the fraud thread but i'll share it here too for extra spreading

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This was probably already posted but I'm going to copy&paste from an anon

"I got a long pasta I made earlier today.

I estimate in this single district about 15%.
District 1 of Virginia
>2016 HillaryC: 163,522
DonaldT: 212,402
GaryJoh: 12,433
JillStein: 2,629
EvanMc: 5,345
Write In: 2,750
399,081 total presidential votes

MattRow: 140,785
Wittman: 230,213
GlendaG: 12866
Write In: 737

384,601 total congress votes

14,480 people didn't vote in the congressional race
3% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


>2020

JoBiden: 276,457
DTrump: 257,937
JoJorge: 7,805
Write In: 1,887
544,086 total presidential votes

QasimR: 183,699
Wittman: 258,290
Write In: 598

442,587 total congress votes

101,499 people didn't vote in the congressional race
18% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


blank congressional ballots are 6 times higher than previous election turn out this year was 26% higher than previous election year

15% more had a blank congressional vote than the previous election year Source: http://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2020 November General/Site/Presidential.html my guess as to what actually happened? same as last election 3% of the ballots didn't vote in the congressional race. which would put the actual turnout at 455,000. 12% increase. And 90k votes added for Biden were yet another "oopsie"""
 

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Talk about saying the quiet part loud and the loud part quiet.


Jesus christ, these people are unhinged. Everything they accuse the right of is pure projection
 
either the media ain´t doing their job, or they really think people are that stupid

Both, but I'm inclined to believe this time around its more the former which, neg-rate me for saying this, I can't quite blame them on to an extent considering the amount of bridges burned between them and Trump. While I'm sure there is political motivation on part for the upper echelons of say ABC, CBS (especially after that one botched interview), NBC, and MSNBC considering their connections with the DNC, practically all the media outlets have at one point or another been repeatedly scorn by Trump or his people.

Is this (i.e. abandoning to report the news) right? For the country, no. Is it to be expected from the powers that be who don't like to be humiliated in public (or have their betting horse lose)? Yes it is.
 
It is so frustrating that I can't talk to my TDS relative about it.
So much this. I know people complain I post too much, and I am a blabber mouth, but this is one of the few places I can talk about this shit besides my in-laws and best friend. I have to walk on eggshells around my family so I don't get called an aunt jane.
 
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I see we've reached the "glowing false flag" stage of the evening.

Ah yes, bets on them all being filled in for Trump too?
 
Didn't see this posted, feel free to rate me late, but here's James Woods' response to AOC's lists:

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Damn, how can I not love James Woods?

And really, I remember seeing a surprisingly long list of celebrity Trump backers. It included some names I found surprising, like James Earl Jones, Melissa Joan Hart, Ice Cube and Bruce Willis. I guess they'd all be screwed with Ocaschindler's List?
 
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Facebook has locked every single group I'm a part of that posts about voter fraud. Not just political pages, but town pages and hobby pages as well.

This shit has gotten ridiculous.

Streisand effect. They'll regret this.

Facebook is the primary target of a future antitrust considering that it's used by actual Republican voters-the holy grail of boomers-, while twitter is pretty much a gigantic septic tank roamed by troons, soyboys and dangerhairs who always threaten suicide but never deliver.
 
Is this (i.e. abandoning to report the news) right? For the country, no. Is it to be expected from the powers that be who don't like to be humiliated in public ((or have their betting horse lose)? Yes it is.

I think people need to start being intellectually honest. It's bad to impeach a President when the case is partisan and you don't have the votes to get it through the Senate. It was bad when it happened to Trump, and it was bad when it happened to Clinton.

Though the odd thing is if the Republicans get the House back at this point I could see them doing a tactical impeachment of Biden, assuming he gets in. It won't pass but it might motivate their base. The thing is that in that scenario they have got a valid reason for impeachment - this election was a farce and he's #NotTheirPresident.

Another thing would be for Red States to just start ignoring laws from DC they find offensive. E.g. if Biden passes gun control, they pass amnesties much like the Democrats did over Trump's immigration law. If tranny bathrooms get pushed through again, do the same thing. There are loads of ways to subvert Federal law without actually going full lawless.

Actually, fuck intellectual honesty. If the other side doesn't practice it's no holds barred.

I think the era of Big Federal Government might actually have come to an end. Not through some Article V convention but purely based on the fact that Red States will ignore Blue Presidents and vice versa. So the Blue States will turn a blind eye to illegals voting Democrat and the Red States will turn a blind eye to the fact that an Assault Weapons Ban will be blatantly violated and if little Timmy tries to tell the girls he's Timmina and he wants to see them change, he'll be told to GTFO and the police will let that happen. Maybe the Federal government will be confined to foreign policy and that foreign policy will simply be a dogged defense of the status quo of American hegemony.

It'll be interesting to see if Biden is 'elected' if he realizes that his power to enforce his will on Red States will disappear if he pushes his luck or if he'll go full steam ahead and see it evaporate.
 
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