2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Aidan]

I am literally an Engineer.

Yes it is a mathematical proof, but what is the key thing we ALWAYS CHECK??? The Data set to see if there are any outliers.
Is the Mathematical proof applicable to this situation?

Now i have not worked with Benfords law as it is not applicable to my kind of work. I don't deal with money or any thing that would benefit from this kind of analysis.

I found this on Wikipedia as i read op on how it works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law

Election data​

Benford's law has been controversially used as evidence of fraud in the 2009 Iranian elections.[34] A 2011 study by the political scientists Joseph Deckert, Mikhail Myagkov, and Peter C. Ordeshook argued that Benford's law is highly problematic and misleading as a statistical indicator of election fraud.[35] The method was also criticized by Walter Mebane.[36]

So did some digging on this claim and the paper who sited it.
Source (35)

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/political-analysis/article/benfords-law-and-the-detection-of-election-fraud/3B1D64E822371C461AF3C61CE91AAF6D#

This is the article, but not to bore you and as this is my day off i will not dig into it more then a few things.

From the Article. Part of the Conclusion page 16. 9 Lines down.
it, in combination with what we know about the stochastic processes sufficient to yield digits in conformity with Benford’s Law, is that the Law is not universally applicable magic box into which we plug election statistics and out of which comes an assessment of an election’s legitimacy. This is not to say it is fruitless to search for special electoral contexts in which 2BL has some relevance, but our analysis suggests that the data required to validate that relevance must be richer than simple election returns

Now they could be wrong, but i am going to trust experts with nothing to gain in this over random people on the internet and this is literally the Dunning Kruger effect.

Now i am willing to hear your explanation why the Benford's Law is applicable and why it works with the current data set??.

FYI this part
"A 2011 study by the political scientists Joseph Deckert, Mikhail Myagkov, and Peter C. Ordeshook argued that Benford's law is highly problematic and misleading as a statistical indicator of election fraud.[35] The method was also criticized by Walter Mebane.[36]"
Was added on Nov 5th. Too lazy to grab the version before that but it basically said that not everyone agreed it was applicable to elections. That part that led to the citation you looked at was added explicitly because of current events.

EDIT: A good way to test this btw would just be to grab election data from around the world and see if the law holds true and note where anomalies lie. If someone compiles data I think it'd be reasonably easy to just run the numbers in any programming language or spreadsheet software of choice.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Texas, a state that was "supposed" to flip blue, had over 106% voter turnout from the mail-in ballots alone when compared to 2016.

I keep reading stuff about how the counting machines used in Texas (and dozens of other states) are from the same company (connected to Pelosi and Feinsten, how convenient) that had the "glitch" in Detroit.

There is so much goddamn fucking smoke surrounding all of this, and the Democrats and the media are doing everything in their power to hide it. It truly does piss me off.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The current unwilligness to fight in kind with Antifa/BLM is economic and social in nature. It is not the result of widespread personal lack of virtue.

Political violence only happens in two scenarios:
1. When you as an individual have nothing to lose - no family, no job, no home, no career; be it from tyranny, injustice, or simple youth.
2. When you as an individual have everything to gain - wealth, power, new liberty, new opportunity.

Those who work so-so jobs in offices and live in so-so apartments, eating so-so food and having so-so sex, will never revolt so long as all of the above remains no worse than so-so. Violence results in losing all of the above at least temporarily, so it’s too much risk until a line is crossed regarding their living standards.

The COVID lock downs have cost people their jobs and homes as well as their family, health and sanity. Biden and his gang are promising more, not less. Commandantante Alex wants to deperson (and probably worse, send to a gulag) anyone who ever liked a Trump tweet and she has supporters actively planning for that eventuality. Maybe we're not at the 1776 stage but we're pretty close. We have large groups of folks with nothing to lose and they aren't sub 1Q inbreds dreaming of a bigger trailer, they're formerly middle class who are watching in real time an election being stolen in front of their eyes by smug coastal elites. Everyone, to varying degrees, is preparing for serious unrest, and it's not the likes of Antifa or BLM that they're worried about, it's our own government if the DNC manages to steal the election and install the walking corpse called Joe Biden (and give his incestuous crackhead son access to the highest levels of government in the process).

Even Saddam Hussein was a more capable and serious ruler than Biden. Bashar Al-Assad would be a better President than a dementia patient. And if events follow their logical conclusion we won't get another Trump populist, we'll get a Pinochet or Argentine style junta because people will just want law and order instead of the civil liberties the Democrats leveraged to cheat their way to power.

So while I'm not wishing for a civil war, I think we're getting close to it, or some serious unrest. If anyone with experience has a say in any of what's going on they'll convince (or force) Biden's team to back off but I don't know if they will. It's very a scary time right now.

 

[Secret Asshole]

One of people I frequently talk to keeps asking me why I'm so adamant in my belief that Joe Biden didn't win, and we've been at this 'stage' for awhile where no amount of actual evidence will persuade them because they'll slap it to the floor before they so much as look at the first paragraph or the first pixel, so we have a dynamic that's boiled itself down to "common sense arguments" because they refuse to look at anything I present, and I can't quit laughing whenever they pull up Snopes or VICE.

Setting aside all of the videos and pictures and Benford's laws and hockey stick graphs, the argument reduced all the way down to, "I do not legitimately believe that Joe Biden won the election, because his ability to win the election makes no historical or mathematical sense." Joe Biden, thus-far, is nearly at 75,000,000 votes, and through sheer numbers this means that he's performed extraordinarily well in every single demographic. Trump did better as a percentage of these demographics and in comparison to his 2016 election, but Biden would have performed better in total.

This would make Joe Biden the most electable man in the history of the United States. He will have outperformed every single candidate in the history of this country, despite the fact that a very large portion of the DNC hates him (Bernie's camp), the Conservatives and no small portion of the Independents either hate or strongly dislike him (Essentially 50%-60% of America), and he has an enthusiasm threshold so low that it can't be measured. Hate or dislike for a candidate from someone's own political party depresses turnout. They don't generally go out and protest vote or "settle for" the nominee, they just sit it out. Despite that, he's inexplicably broken the trend and broken every record.

You could argue that's due in part to Trump's unpopularity, so this a massive swell of protest votes against him. Oddly, they didn't make that argument, but it would be a good counter-point. I don't buy it, though. If Trump was considerably unpopular, he would not have received almost ten million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. His support base grew, it did not shrink. Barack Obama was solidly unpopular to the Conservatives and some moderates in his second election and he still performed very well. George Bush was thoroughly demonized by the media and the Democratic party, he'd gotten us into and maintained several wars, and he'd passed incredibly unpopular legislation like the Patriot Act, but he still wasn't toppled by a massive swell of protest votes. Despite a significant amount of disdain and a fairly unappealing opponent, the both of them went on to win by comfortable margins.

The only two states in the Republic that have very stringent laws to prevent fraud using absentee and mail-in ballots are Ohio (Thanks to 2004) and Florida (2000). These are the only two states that immediately swung for Trump and locked in, and he won them by very comfortable margins. I think that this would have been the case for most states in the Union, and this is why those other states that Joe Biden needed inexplicably locked down almost immediately after the counting started, and stopped counting entirely. I think they saw the gap widening, knew they had to close it, but the margin between the two was so wide that by the time they closed it, the results became absurd.

That's why the numbers don't make any sense. That's why all the graphs are fucked up, that's why Trump's support base grew in every demographic and he received almost ten million new supporters and yet it still looks like he's somehow lagging behind by an unreasonably large margin Every part of his support base grew, and yet he's still behind. I don't buy it. That makes absolutely no sense and it's in defiance of every single electoral pattern in history. I think that they were trying to crush him into a concession on the night of the election or shove so far ahead of him that it went beyond the threshold that allows for a recount, but they completely underestimated how well Trump was going to perform, so as they kept forcibly closing the gap, the 'fix' spun wildly out of control.

Suffice it to say, I was called a boot-licker. We don't have productive arguments.

It really sucks. It is so frustrating that I can't talk to my TDS relative about it. The problem is that you have to really be looking at the election to know. A lot of people went to sleep with Trump having massive leads and waking up to Biden flipping nearly everything.

It is so massive it had to be done on purpose. Ballots JUST filled out for Trump. Massive increases in voter registration and participation. It seriously reminds me of the Tammany Hall political machine where they'd beat people to get out and vote and push them to different polling places. It really reminds me of that.

Sad that people let their hatred of Trump override the idea of fair and free elections. The only good thing is that the Trump support won't fade away and people have a MUCH longer memory than others give them credit for.

I'm really frustrated people can't just put aside this stupid fucking partisan bullshit for one fucking second and go, "Hey, maybe its a good idea to check this."

If you check it and there's nothing like you said and its a huge series of weird coincidences, you still win. And on top of that, no one will view him as illegitimate. If you DON'T, 50%+ of this country will view a Biden administration as illegitimate having no mandate. The only reason you don't want an investigation is because in your heart of hearts you know your candidate lost fair and square. And for that you can just go fuck yourself, you selfish cunt. I'd want this done for Trump as well if the situation were reversed. This compromises our entire system and this is what leads to destabilization of countries.

I'm also with you @It's HK-47 , they panicked when they saw Trumps margin's and just went into overdrive, which is why all of this cheating is so fucking blatant.

If he loses and is found to have committed fraud this is 1000% how it goes.
The DNC rats out the low-level dangerhairs and joggers who did the footwork of the fraud and they alongside maybe one-two B tier politicians get to eat shit in prison for life.
Joe will be spared, saying he "didn't know of any of it" and the DNC will even admit he's demented to prove that no way a senile old fart could mastermind this; it was all just some lowly miscreants and B-tier rejects.

And I'm personally ok with that, so long as Twitter gets to eat so much shit Jack Dorsey starts asking for more plates of it due to how much he's grown to like the taste of it.

Oh and that faggot Cooper and his buttbuddy Colbert have to issue a live public apology. I can see Colbert straight refusing, saying #resist, and then blowing his brains out.



Who said they were alive?

Joe doesn't know what fucking day of the week it is. Its mainly the DNC hacks that are doing this. We can see some backtracking now with 'glitches' because they went fucking apeshit with their cheating because Trump had massive leads they had to flip.

I'm sorry, but if they're allowed to get away with fraud, you're never going to have an "election" where votes count again. It's just not historically or statistically what happens. It's just... not how it works. Once they KNOW they can cheat, people's votes don't matter.

Faith in the system will be shattered. I'm never voting Democrat again. Fuck these faggots, treating me like I'm sort of rube. 3rd Party, Republican or staying home.

OH we are going full retard now.

So a partisan group who are known Trump supporters is having a random person make claims with no evidence.

Who is this guy and why should we trust him and another question, you can't tell this is fake and a full setup?
So they are doing a interview with a guy that is supposed to be working.

Why the FUCK are they doing it like that?? If this is a big crisis thing with evidence to back it op you would throw a pile of money at the guy to get him in to be a whistleblower. That is what i would do if i had some one who could blow a huge chunk out of the Democratic win and show voter fraud on a grand scale.

But all we got now is. Unknown guy makes claim.

You have now shown me 3-4 things and they are all twitter level trash with no real evidence. And like i said look into 2016, Election, Detroit, voting machines and follow that trail. There is something there, but you will need to dig a bit and compare some things. It is something that has a bit more concrete proof.

People have been giving you massive amounts of evidence the entire thread. The math doesn't fucking add up. In order to win, Biden would have to be the most electable presidential candidate in the HISTORY OF AMERICA. Does this make ANY fucking sense to you? More popular than Obama, more popular than Hilary. He would have to break bellweathers which have held for over a half-century. This is all the while Trump's support GREW. His support among minorites was the greatest of any republican president in decades. Based on that fact alone, he should have won. But didn't. How does this make any sense? It doesn't. You're completely blind.

And Veritas has been sued dozens of times and hasn't lost a single case. They've never been successfully sued for defamation or false reporting, ever. You have people willing to testify.

All you're doing is going "LOL NO" to anything anyone says to you. Its fucking pathetic. Just go back to sleep. People like you allow fraud to happen. You should want this to be investigated. But your guy won, so it doesn't matter. Fuck the weird shit, its all a coincidence! Just like every error was for Biden and they all just happened to be in states that Trump needed. Please. Biden flipped 36 points in some places with NO poll watchers (Republican or Democrat). Poll watchers being ejected. Polling places ignoring court orders. Why is there no evidence of fraud in Ohio and Florida, the two most obvious states (because they have stringent mail in voting laws)? All of these are just coincidences right? Give me a fucking break. Its called logical deduction. If we didn't use it, no crime would ever be investigated. That is why they should be investigated, because there are too many issues to just be coincidence.

If you think your guy won, it costs you nothing to investigate it. And I'm fine if it turns out to be true. But to be obstinate and not investigate and demanding 'proof' makes me think you're scared that you're going to lose. Winning or losing here doesn't matter. The integrity of our elections are at fucking stake. Its time to dump this retarded TDS or BDS and force the issue on fraud.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

FYI this part
"A 2011 study by the political scientists Joseph Deckert, Mikhail Myagkov, and Peter C. Ordeshook argued that Benford's law is highly problematic and misleading as a statistical indicator of election fraud.[35] The method was also criticized by Walter Mebane.[36]"
Was added on Nov 5th. Too lazy to grab the version before that but it basically said that not everyone agreed it was applicable to elections. That part that led to the citation you looked at was added explicitly because of current events.

No i went to the ORGINAL FUCKING SOURCE!!!!

So are you saying that the original source is wrong?
Now to be fair i don't know when it was added, but instead i went to the Article it self and read abstract, the conclusion and a bit of there methodology.

Plus it is from 2011 way before any thing related to Trump. I found it a bit more safe to use then random new stuff.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

How does the Benford’s Law data compare to 2016? That could be an easy way to explain it to others. If I can easily show a graph of “Last election, nearly all votes, Donald’s, Hillary’s, and third-party followed this specific pattern, but in this election, all candidates followed it except for Biden.” that could certainly help.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The COVID lock downs have cost people their jobs and homes as well as their family, health and sanity. Biden and his gang are promising more, not less. Commandantante Alex wants to deperson (and probably worse, send to a gulag) anyone who ever liked a Trump tweet and she has supporters actively planning for that eventuality. Maybe we're not at the 1776 stage but we're pretty close. We have large groups of folks with nothing to lose and they aren't sub 1Q inbreds dreaming of a bigger trailer, they're formerly middle class who are watching in real time an election being stolen in front of their eyes by smug coastal elites. Everyone, to varying degrees, is preparing for serious unrest, and it's not the likes of Antifa or BLM that they're worried about, it's our own government if the DNC manages to steal the election and install the walking corpse called Joe Biden (and give his incestuous crackhead son access to the highest levels of government in the process).

Even Saddam Hussein was a more capable and serious ruler than Biden. Bashar Al-Assad would be a better President than a dementia patient. And if events follow their logical conclusion we won't get another Trump populist, we'll get a Pinochet or Argentine style junta because people will just want law and order instead of the civil liberties the Democrats leveraged to cheat their way to power.

So while I'm not wishing for a civil war, I think we're getting close to it, or some serious unrest. If anyone with experience has a say in any of what's going on they'll convince (or force) Biden's team to back off but I don't know if they will. It's very a scary time right now.

I'd rather things get scary than the entire nation just rolling over and taking this.

 

[ZMOT]

Why would... What... Huh? That's serious fucking creepy. There has to be explanation. Why would there be a wire or camera? HOW does it move like that? It pops up, looks around, and then pops down. THIS IS SOME INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS SHIT HERE!

Thought this was fake because it looks like one of those x-files theme super shit edits you'd find on some random site while drunk/high at 3am. I mean it still looks like that but it's weird. Men in Black are probably on it so I wouldn't worry.

earpiece microphone.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

FYI this part
"A 2011 study by the political scientists Joseph Deckert, Mikhail Myagkov, and Peter C. Ordeshook argued that Benford's law is highly problematic and misleading as a statistical indicator of election fraud.[35] The method was also criticized by Walter Mebane.[36]"
Was added on Nov 5th. Too lazy to grab the version before that but it basically said that not everyone agreed it was applicable to elections. That part that led to the citation you looked at was added explicitly because of current events.

EDIT: A good way to test this btw would just be to grab election data from around the world and see if the law holds true and note where anomalies lie. If someone compiles data I think it'd be reasonably easy to just run the numbers in any programming language or spreadsheet software of choice.

So we found the irl version of:

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

It really sucks. It is so frustrating that I can't talk to my TDS relative about it. The problem is that you have to really be looking at the election to know. A lot of people went to sleep with Trump having massive leads and waking up to Biden flipping nearly everything.

It is so massive it had to be done on purpose. Ballots JUST filled out for Trump. Massive increases in voter registration and participation. It seriously reminds me of the Tammany Hall political machine where they'd beat people to get out and vote and push them to different polling places. It really reminds me of that.

Sad that people let their hatred of Trump override the idea of fair and free elections. The only good thing is that the Trump support won't fade away and people have a MUCH longer memory than others give them credit for.

I'm really frustrated people can't just put aside this stupid fucking partisan bullshit for one fucking second and go, "Hey, maybe its a good idea to check this."

If you check it and there's nothing like you said and its a huge series of weird coincidences, you still win. And on top of that, no one will view him as illegitimate. If you DON'T, 50%+ of this country will view a Biden administration as illegitimate having no mandate. The only reason you don't want an investigation is because in your heart of hearts you know your candidate lost fair and square. And for that you can just go fuck yourself, you selfish cunt. I'd want this done for Trump as well if the situation were reversed. This compromises our entire system and this is what leads to destabilization of countries.



Faith in the system will be shattered. I'm never voting Democrat again. Fuck these faggots, treating me like I'm sort of rube. 3rd Party, Republican or staying home.

People have been giving you massive amounts of evidence the entire thread. The math doesn't fucking add up. In order to win, Biden would have to be the most electable presidential candidate in the HISTORY OF AMERICA. Does this make ANY fucking sense to you? More popular than Obama, more popular than Hilary. He would have to break bellweathers which have held for over a half-century. This is all the while Trump's support GREW. His support among minorites was the greatest of any republican president in decades. Based on that fact alone, he should have won. But didn't. How does this make any sense? It doesn't. You're completely blind.

And Veritas has been sued dozens of times and hasn't lost a single case. They've never been successfully sued for defamation or false reporting, ever. You have people willing to testify.

All you're doing is going "LOL NO" to anything anyone says to you. Its fucking pathetic. Just go back to sleep. People like you allow fraud to happen. You should want this to be investigated. But your guy won, so it doesn't matter. Fuck the weird shit, its all a coincidence! Just like every error was for Biden and they all just happened to be in states that Trump needed. Please. Biden flipped 36 points in some places with NO poll watchers (Republican or Democrat). Poll watchers being ejected. Polling places ignoring court orders. All of these are just coincidences right? Give me a fucking break. Its called logical deduction. If we didn't use it, no crime would ever be investigated. That is why they should be investigated, because there are too many issues to just be coincidence.

If you think your guy won, it costs you nothing to investigate it. And I'm fine if it turns out to be true. But to be obstinate and not investigate and demanding 'proof' makes me think you're scared that you're going to lose. Winning or losing here doesn't matter. The integrity of our elections are at fucking stake. Its time to dump this retarded TDS or BDS and force the issue on fraud.

I am all for investigations.

HOW EVER i am not going to claim stolen election until i have evidence that it is true.

You might believe every thing with no critical thought at all because your felling's are hurt, but i want evidence.
Evidence to me is something can be proven. Now if you want to throw Conjecture around, then that is fine, but it is not evidence.

 

[ZMOT]

So while I'm not wishing for a civil war, I think we're getting close to it, or some serious unrest. If anyone with experience has a say in any of what's going on they'll convince (or force) Biden's team to back off but I don't know if they will. It's very a scary time right now.

unlikely, because the US - and whoever sits in the white house - still has more than enough power to curbstomp anyone who tries, and will have for a long while. I posted about it a lot of pages back, but the circumstances for a successful violent uprising aren't in place (yet). even with biden the country won't turn into detroit over night, it's gonna a take a while getting there (in part due to people losing trust in the system and/or actively sabotaging it). most people who are angry now are gonna watch what happens and then react in their own limited way they can.

 

[MrJokerRager]

It really sucks. It is so frustrating that I can't talk to my TDS relative about it. The problem is that you have to really be looking at the election to know. A lot of people went to sleep with Trump having massive leads and waking up to Biden flipping nearly everything.

It is so massive it had to be done on purpose. Ballots JUST filled out for Trump. Massive increases in voter registration and participation. It seriously reminds me of the Tammany Hall political machine where they'd beat people to get out and vote and push them to different polling places. It really reminds me of that.

Sad that people let their hatred of Trump override the idea of fair and free elections. The only good thing is that the Trump support won't fade away and people have a MUCH longer memory than others give them credit for.

I'm really frustrated people can't just put aside this stupid fucking partisan bullshit for one fucking second and go, "Hey, maybe its a good idea to check this."

If you check it and there's nothing like you said and its a huge series of weird coincidences, you still win. And on top of that, no one will view him as illegitimate. If you DON'T, 50%+ of this country will view a Biden administration as illegitimate having no mandate. The only reason you don't want an investigation is because in your heart of hearts you know your candidate lost fair and square. And for that you can just go fuck yourself, you selfish cunt. I'd want this done for Trump as well if the situation were reversed. This compromises our entire system and this is what leads to destabilization of countries.

I'm also with you @It's HK-47 , they panicked when they saw Trumps margin's and just went into overdrive, which is why all of this cheating is so fucking blatant.

Joe doesn't know what fucking day of the week it is. Its mainly the DNC hacks that are doing this. We can see some backtracking now with 'glitches' because they went fucking apeshit with their cheating because Trump had massive leads they had to flip.

Faith in the system will be shattered. I'm never voting Democrat again. Fuck these faggots, treating me like I'm sort of rube. 3rd Party, Republican or staying home.

People have been giving you massive amounts of evidence the entire thread. The math doesn't fucking add up. In order to win, Biden would have to be the most electable presidential candidate in the HISTORY OF AMERICA. Does this make ANY fucking sense to you? More popular than Obama, more popular than Hilary. He would have to break bellweathers which have held for over a half-century. This is all the while Trump's support GREW. His support among minorites was the greatest of any republican president in decades. Based on that fact alone, he should have won. But didn't. How does this make any sense? It doesn't. You're completely blind.

And Veritas has been sued dozens of times and hasn't lost a single case. They've never been successfully sued for defamation or false reporting, ever. You have people willing to testify.

All you're doing is going "LOL NO" to anything anyone says to you. Its fucking pathetic. Just go back to sleep. People like you allow fraud to happen. You should want this to be investigated. But your guy won, so it doesn't matter. Fuck the weird shit, its all a coincidence! Just like every error was for Biden and they all just happened to be in states that Trump needed. Please. Biden flipped 36 points in some places with NO poll watchers (Republican or Democrat). Poll watchers being ejected. Polling places ignoring court orders. Why is there no evidence of fraud in Ohio and Florida, the two most obvious states (because they have stringent mail in voting laws)? All of these are just coincidences right? Give me a fucking break. Its called logical deduction. If we didn't use it, no crime would ever be investigated. That is why they should be investigated, because there are too many issues to just be coincidence.

If you think your guy won, it costs you nothing to investigate it. And I'm fine if it turns out to be true. But to be obstinate and not investigate and demanding 'proof' makes me think you're scared that you're going to lose. Winning or losing here doesn't matter. The integrity of our elections are at fucking stake. Its time to dump this retarded TDS or BDS and force the issue on fraud.

You missed mentioning the morons in the suburbs who are not TDS affected but want politeness and civility back in the White House. Because the sign of a good person or politician is being a dull and boring soulless fuck.

I also mentioned this in the doomsday thread that they don't discuss famous events in detail that involved voter fraud like 1876. And many people still believe in America being a first world country illusion where poll workers are honest and would never do something bad.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

So I went away for a few hours earlier in the evening to watch some movies and to relax. When I chose to do this, some shit hit the fan.

When I read that Biden was going to make another statement earlier tonight, I anticipated that he was going to declare victory. Then, the news about Justice Alito and the Dominion Voting Systems in Michigan came out, and all of the sudden, Biden is very late to make his statement and he said a whole lot of nothing for the fourth day in a row.

Meanwhile, Trump is shitposting on Twitter, practically trying to bait Biden to declare victory.

Not sure what to make of any of this, but it's definitely weird.

 

[ThatOneLurker]

earpiece microphone.

Now see, the problem with that is whatever it is it is not remotely close to his ear. Furthermore, you can see two whatever that is on his arm. First one is near his ulna, shrinks down as he turns his wrist. The second one that everyone immediately notices, looks around, and then pops down afterwards.

This is either a rosary like people have said, or some x-files shit.

 

[Aidan]

No i went to the ORGINAL FUCKING SOURCE!!!!

So are you saying that the original source is wrong?

Ok you're a sperg, I got it. I didn't even imply you didn't click the link for the citation, I'm saying that bit was added with motive in mind.
Not sure why you're reacting like this but I'm just gonna call out your bullshit now.

You use "I'm an engineer" as some sort of testimony that has no basis, you even acknowledge it has no bearing on the topic at hand, so it was dumb to mention it. I get that you did it to try to say "I'm good with numbers" or something, but it's completely irrelevant. It'd only make sense to mention your background like that if it was in stats, accounting, or data science, where this sort of data analysis is relevant.
That said, you then turn right around and demand an explanation as to why a mathematical law that is usually applicable is applicable in this situation which is retarded. I can understand skepticism and agree it's likely not universally applicable, but if it is a metric worth using to distinguish anomalies then great. Your job should be to disprove it if you want to argue about it, not demand proof that it works with a dataset just because you can find someone somewhere who says it may not.
The very next citation is a political science professor deemed an expert in election fraud who says it's not clear if it does or doesn't work and it needs further study. With that in mind, I wouldn't expect any concrete proof one way or another on its application with elections so you're pretty much gonna get people who think it applies and people who think it doesn't.

The data is out there, you have people posting it's application right now. You want to prove there's no correlation or the correlation is negligible, then go right on ahead. Don't ask others to do it just because you want to disagree, though.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Also consider this: In the three states that Trump lost, mail in ballots are electronically counted. They aren't checked by hand. What if the software is completely fucked and glitched out. And by denying anything, you keep this glitched software in circulation. What if it is voting error on a massive scale? What happens if your candidate will be a victim to it?

I am all for investigations.

HOW EVER i am not going to claim stolen election until i have evidence that it is true.

You might believe every thing with no critical thought at all because your felling's are hurt, but i want evidence.
Evidence to me is something can be proven. Now if you want to throw Conjecture around, then that is fine, but it is not evidence.

The integrity of the United States Election system isn't my 'feelings'. And I am using critical thought. This is the equivalent of someone saying a guy's wife is missing, but the husband says she's just on vacation. The husband also bought a lot of household cleaners and the house is spic and span. The wife and husband also had marital problems. There's no PROOF he murdered his wife, but there's enough to investigate.

And I am using critical thought. You're the one plugging your ears screaming. I'm saying we do everything in our power to validate this election.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Also consider this: In the three states that Trump lost, mail in ballots are electronically counted. They aren't checked by hand. What if the software is completely fucked and glitched out. And by denying anything, you keep this glitched software in circulation. What if it is voting error on a massive scale? What happens if your candidate will be a victim to it?

The integrity of the United States Election system isn't my 'feelings'. And I am using critical thought. This is the equivalent of someone saying a guy's wife is missing, but the husband says she's just on vacation. The husband also bought a lot of household cleaners and the house is spic and span. The wife and husband also had marital problems. There's no PROOF he murdered his wife, but there's enough to investigate.

And I am using critical thought. You're the one plugging your ears screaming. I'm saying we do everything in our power to validate this election.

We really need voting reform ...

First step would be to eliminate electronic voting and counting. Make EVERYTHING on paper and counted meticulously by actual people with a bipartisan group of spectators and judges.

 

[MrJokerRager]

So I went away for a few hours earlier in the evening to watch some movies and to relax. When I chose to do this, some shit hit the fan.

When I read that Biden was going to make another statement earlier tonight, I anticipated that he was going to declare victory. Then, the news about Justice Alito and the Dominion Voting Systems in Michigan came out, and all of the sudden, Biden is very late to make his statement and he said a whole lot of nothing for the fourth day in a row.

Meanwhile, Trump is shitposting on Twitter, practically trying to bait Biden to declare victory.

Not sure what to make of any of this, but it's definitely weird.

Biden declaring victory would make GEOTUS unlock Super Sayian 3. It would also embolden the GOP more into seeing how this demented fuck somehow managed winning with no crowds of any kind to turn up for him.

Tucker is basically getting closer and closer to calling this a rigged election. He has on people seeing it or calling it that way. Also brought up how glowie democrats are basically fed posting into wanting Trump supporters commit violence so Biden can use the 1807.

And the dumb fuck Keith Olbermann never saw the full clip and posted a tweet that Tucker was encouraging civil war and should be arrested when it was a democrat glowie who said it on Bill Maher.

 

[Secret Asshole]

We really need voting reform ...

First step would be to eliminate electronic voting and counting. Make EVERYTHING on paper and counted meticulously by actual people with a bipartisan group of spectators and judges.

Not even bipartisan. EVERY party on the ballot gets an observer.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

We really need voting reform ...

First step would be to eliminate electronic voting and counting. Make EVERYTHING on paper and counted meticulously by actual people with a bipartisan group of spectators and judges.

And make it so that everyone can see these people counting votes via livestreaming. The UK was able to do it during the Brexit referendum. We have to do it in order to make sure shady shit isn't happening and we can accurately trust the results.