US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

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Sorry for being autistic because I already posted this in other threads, but someone at Fivethirtyeight claims that "There are also counter examples where Trump’s line shoots up suddenly when a favorable batch of results are reported". Is this true?

I'm not sure how they did it but that website is somehow even worse than snopes.
now you tell me, do these jumps look organic?
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Sorry for being autistic because I already posted this in other threads, but someone at Fivethirtyeight claims that "There are also counter examples where Trump’s line shoots up suddenly when a favorable batch of results are reported". Is this true?

Sometimes four is three. Sometimes it's five. Sometimes it's everything at once.

After everything continually being posted here and elsewhere--including outright video and audio evidence at that--is there really anything you are willing to trust from almost any mainstream source?
 
This was probably already posted but I'm going to copy&paste from an anon

"I got a long pasta I made earlier today.

I estimate in this single district about 15%.
District 1 of Virginia
>2016 HillaryC: 163,522
DonaldT: 212,402
GaryJoh: 12,433
JillStein: 2,629
EvanMc: 5,345
Write In: 2,750
399,081 total presidential votes

MattRow: 140,785
Wittman: 230,213
GlendaG: 12866
Write In: 737

384,601 total congress votes

14,480 people didn't vote in the congressional race
3% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


>2020

JoBiden: 276,457
DTrump: 257,937
JoJorge: 7,805
Write In: 1,887
544,086 total presidential votes

QasimR: 183,699
Wittman: 258,290
Write In: 598

442,587 total congress votes

101,499 people didn't vote in the congressional race
18% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


blank congressional ballots are 6 times higher than previous election turn out this year was 26% higher than previous election year

15% more had a blank congressional vote than the previous election year Source: http://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2020 November General/Site/Presidential.html my guess as to what actually happened? same as last election 3% of the ballots didn't vote in the congressional race. which would put the actual turnout at 455,000. 12% increase. And 90k votes added for Biden were yet another "oopsie"""


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Don't even pretend we don't all know this is a total mass fraud operation, we have heard nothing about how much the votes needed to be mailed in, about how the counters need to be socially distanced, counts were "stopped" except when they piled in hundreds of thousands of votes stacked in Thieving Joes favor. This shit is blatant, overt and they'll do it again, you will never have another election again if this isn't solved, immediately.
Hey, I already know there's an ass-load of fraud going on, and I knew it was going to be rampant as soon as Joe Biden himself said his campaign was running the biggest voter fraud organization in US history. I'm just pointing out the obvious fuckery for people who refuse to even admit that things are at minimum suspicious in places.
 
Hey, I already know there's an ass-load of fraud going on, and I knew it was going to be rampant as soon as Joe Biden himself said his campaign was running the biggest voter fraud organization in US history. I'm just pointing out the obvious fuckery for people who refuse to even admit that things are at minimum suspicious in places.
I agree to the context, I guess my point has to be that even creating the semblance of interpretation is how we got this shit-creek up to our necks in the first place. Never concede ground because glow in the darks and autists will take that inch and run a mile up our asses with it, like they have done time and time again for decades now.
 
You're not wrong about the dangers of falling into the rationalization trap. I always do my best to avoid that, and I thought I was making it rather clear that for anything but this people would be jumping up and down demanding answers as to why so many numbers don't appear to make sense. But hey, Orange Man Bad.
 
I knew it was going to be rampant as soon as Joe Biden himself said his campaign was running the biggest voter fraud organization in US history.
Two buttons, Biden supporter sweating over which button to press- "Joe doesn't know what he's saying", and "Joe knows what he's saying".

Neither button looks good and I'd love for them to try and explain it.
 
It's shocking that this happens in the U.S of all places. I saw a youtube video with interviews with people from third world countries are they were also shaking their heads. One man from Nigeria said voter frauds are normal in his country and so are violent protests & looting but he never expected this happening the U.S.

I think the U.S had a good reputation in lots of countries but lost most of it in a short amount of time. It's a bad sign when third world shitholes can be compared to the U.S.
 
My biggest issue with all this is like previously mentioned the fact that most of the "questionable ballots" didn't even have senate or house races or local marked on them. When people generally vote, they're given two options : going down ticket for R or D, or changing the options as they see them. Your average joe is going to vote down ticket, not only vote for biden or trump and ignore the rest. A down ticket option is that, but none of these "questionable ballots" even have down ticket shit marked.
 
Someone on 4chan shared these letters cosigned by senators Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, and Ron Wyden, and congressman Mark Pocan from Warren's website. The letters are dated December 6, 2019. They're not super long, but here's a brief summary.

They basically demand disclosure of the stuff spelled out in Stop Wall Street Looting Act, which Warren herself had authored a few months prior. Warren was concerned that investment companies might buy controlling interests in voting companies and then, à la Toys R Us, drive the company into the ground to maximize returns.

Warren somewhat coolly suggests that this may already have happened and that the consequences might include:
  • voting machine quality suffering
  • machine breakage interrupting the vote
  • outdated voting machines leaving elections vulnerable to manipulation/fraud
  • stripped-down companies being unable to handle the higher maintenance burden
all of which is a big deal because, as we know, production of US voting machines is concentrated in a handful of companies.
The letter also demands disclosure of any other election technology companies they might be associated with. I assume this had to do with the fear of foreign influence.

A lot of the citations are pretty interesting, but she does cite Vice twice, so... Grain of salt and all that.

Letter #1—CEOs of H.I.G. Capital, LLC regarding their investment in Hart InterCivic Inc.

A claim made by H.I.G. Capital after it was discovered that a Russian oligarch was somehow entangled with another vote infrastructure company :​
"Hart InterCivic said that it “derives independent actual value from this information not being generally known or readily ascertainable and makes reasonable efforts to maintain the secrecy of this information.”
[...]
Hart InterCivic said nearly 80 percent of its ownership is held through an intermediary company by H.I.G. Capital, a Miami, Florida-based private equity firm. Gregg L. Burt, Hart’s board chairman and former CEO and the founder of his own Austin-based private equity firm, owns another 10.5%, the company disclosed."
Federal News Network, July 2019 [Archive]
I don't have a business mind, so can someone please explain how deriving "independent actual value from not being generally known" is a hunky-dory thing to do?​

Letter #2—Mike McCarthy, chairman of McCarthy Group LLC* of which
Election Systems & Software (ES&S) is a subsidiary.

The letters cite a scandal involving ES&S voting machines in Philadelphia(footnote 17):​
Vote totals in a Northampton County judge’s race showed one candidate, Abe Kassis, a Democrat, had just 164 votes out of 55,000 ballots across more than 100 precincts. Some machines reported zero votes for him. In a county with the ability to vote for a straight-party ticket, one candidate’s zero votes was a near statistical impossibility.
[...]
Though there has been no conclusive study as to what caused the machines to malfunction, as the machines are locked away for 20 days after an election according to state law, the prevailing theory is that the touch screens were plagued by a bug in the software.
[...]
“What would have happened if there was a glitch there that got at a 10 percent or 20 percent undercount?” she said. “That worries me. That worries me going forward.”
Ms. Granger noted that there are nearly 6,300 ExpressVoteXL voting machines in use across the country, and none had experienced similar counting problems to those in Northampton County.
[...]
The lobbying firm for E.S.&S. had donated $1,000 in 2013 to the campaign of Al Schmidt, one of the city commissioners, and again to a group supporting his re-election effort in 2018. They also spent more than $27,000 in direct lobbying of Mr. Schmidt.
Mr. Schmidt made a visit to only one company’s headquarters: E.S.&S.
In total, E.S.&S. spent more than $425,000 in lobbying expenses related to the City of Philadelphia."
The New York Times, November 2019 [Archive]
*Not much info there, but McCarthy also manages McCarthy Capital Corporation.

A 2019 candidate in a county using ES&S's ExpressVoteXL recieved a statistically impossible number of votes—just 164/55k. The candidate still won. I'm sure if it had been a close loss this would have been a very big deal.​
  • Is there any chance that the counties that reported an F curve were using this machine?
  • Alternatively, could this have been a sign of shenanigans upballot like the missing senate votes?
Letter #3—Managing directors of Staple Street Capital Group, LLC, which acquired
Dominion Voting Systems in 2018.

I don't fully understand the web surrounding Dominion yet, but this lame press release is the only thing I found talking about both entities.​
Staple Street Capital acquired Dominion Voting Systems Corp., a maker of electronic voting hardware, alongside company management.

The Toronto company provides election tabulation products to governments. Dominion Voting, which also has offices in Denver, makes universal tabulators and ballot marking devices, optical scan tabulators and central count products under the ImageCast and Democracy Suite EMS brands.
Wall Street Journal, July 2018 [Archive]

I'm very surprised that Dominion is based in Canada. It's pretty strange how easy it was to find controversial happenings about the other two companies.​

It's interesting that Warren and Klobuchar both suspected that there were serious problems with the voting machines even before the Democrat primary. They gave the companies a deadline to respond by December 19, 2019, so their responses must be somewhere.

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This was probably already posted but I'm going to copy&paste from an anon

"I got a long pasta I made earlier today.

I estimate in this single district about 15%.
District 1 of Virginia
>2016 HillaryC: 163,522
DonaldT: 212,402
GaryJoh: 12,433
JillStein: 2,629
EvanMc: 5,345
Write In: 2,750
399,081 total presidential votes

MattRow: 140,785
Wittman: 230,213
GlendaG: 12866
Write In: 737

384,601 total congress votes

14,480 people didn't vote in the congressional race
3% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


>2020

JoBiden: 276,457
DTrump: 257,937
JoJorge: 7,805
Write In: 1,887
544,086 total presidential votes

QasimR: 183,699
Wittman: 258,290
Write In: 598

442,587 total congress votes

101,499 people didn't vote in the congressional race
18% of the voters didn't vote in the congressional race


blank congressional ballots are 6 times higher than previous election turn out this year was 26% higher than previous election year

15% more had a blank congressional vote than the previous election year Source: http://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2020 November General/Site/Presidential.html my guess as to what actually happened? same as last election 3% of the ballots didn't vote in the congressional race. which would put the actual turnout at 455,000. 12% increase. And 90k votes added for Biden were yet another "oopsie"""


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It is faster to fill in ballots for corpses without voting for congress.

I am curious how many state issues went unvoted on in these areas.
 
It's shocking that this happens in the U.S of all places. I saw a youtube video with interviews with people from third world countries are they were also shaking their heads. One man from Nigeria said voter frauds are normal in his country and so are violent protests & looting but he never expected this happening the U.S.

I think the U.S had a good reputation in lots of countries but lost most of it in a short amount of time. It's a bad sign when third world shitholes can be compared to the U.S.
I work with a guy from the fucking CONGO who said the same thing.
 
I think the U.S had a good reputation in lots of countries but lost most of it in a short amount of time. It's a bad sign when third world shitholes can be compared to the U.S.
The US had a solid reputation in many areas at one point, but it's faded away -- some over the course of decades and some more recently and more rapidly. The US used to be known for its know-how, education, etc. However, most of that has been on a downward turn and other countries have passed us with no signs of that changing or improving any time soon.

The more I think of the 2020 election and the shenanigans that may have taken place, the more I think about the US's past involvement in foreign countries elections -- whether on its own or through the UN -- to try to prevent corruption in those nations' elections and speaking out when the results were as questionable as ours have been perceived so far this week. It's going to be a huge black eye for our global reputation now that the perception is that we can't even take care of our own elections while demanding the same of other countries' elections.

My biggest issue with all this is like previously mentioned the fact that most of the "questionable ballots" didn't even have senate or house races or local marked on them.
Some people only care about certain elections such as the Presidential Race and don't bother to vote for anything else for whatever reason. In may cases, people simply lack the time and interest to research those issues and candidates to separate the truth from the mudslinging and attack ads.

That said, multiple people who only voted for one item on their ballots can be a sign of gamesmanship. I've seen it happen in a non-political context involving someone with no qualms about allowing it to take place. So, it's not surprising that it could happen in an election where much more is at stake.

Warren somewhat coolly suggests that this may already have happened and that the consequences might include:
  • voting machine quality suffering
  • machine breakage interrupting the vote
  • outdated voting machines leaving elections vulnerable to manipulation/fraud
  • stripped-down companies being unable to handle the higher maintenance burden
all of which is a big deal because, as we know, production of US voting machines is concentrated in a handful of companies.
Has much been said about the security of these machines in terms of information being transmitted to and from them? As much as the internet makes it easy to exchange information back and forth, some of these wireless transmissions are performed with little to no security incorporated into the process. Also, we live in a time where IoT (internet of things) is a big thing where people have it in their head that connecting anything to the internet is a good idea even when it's not simply because most such devices are designed without the necessary security. At this point, one wonders if a return to low-tech might increase both the reliability and credibility of the election process.
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But for every single one of 100k+ to only affect the presidential race? That's fishy at best.
When I was in line to process my ballot, one of the guys behind me said he only filled in three, we only had two national people on the ballot. Ohio doesn't have a straight party option, but just voting for president and nothing down ballot in large quantities, especially from a single polling place, is highly unusual. People usually care at least a little about down ballot.

My local results were a little odd, but I'm in Hamilton county (Cincinnati) so you expect to see mixed results. I'm sure the county went for Biden, but the Republican congress critters stayed, the hard ass Republican county prosecutor stayed, but we elected a "Defund the Police" Sheriff, and we lost one Republican state supreme court justice but kept the other. The judges didn't have part affiliation, so I expect wonkiness in those votes, since most people don't care about the courts.

On the other hand, Ohio is slightly more secure in voting, with having to scan in your Real ID and such, and we can actually count unlike the retards up in the Mitten. Who both can't count and can't rig an election convincingly.
 
The difference is just how many statistical abnormalities have popped up this election. If you were a tax accountant for the IRS looking into records that had anywhere near as many oddities you'd be ringing up your bosses saying you snagged a potential tax cheat. Is there actual fraud at work or just weird things happening? Who knows, but as the Dems have been saying about Trump for four years, where there's smoke, there's fire.
Oddly, people seem to be fine with securing everything but elections.
 
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ok so they called it for biden just earlyer,now is the time to spread this info far and wide,who do we send the evidence to?and how to we penitrate the normie phsycie with it

Oddly, people seem to be fine with securing everything but elections.
if you say anything about secure election you get accused of hating the colored folk
 
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