Pyrocynical / Niall Comas - Inflation / Furshit / Weird Allegations

[Vorkland]

Others on the board said it: Grooming in teens is "typical" behavior in the furry community and in a lot of fetish communities. Pyro was hiding in plain sight under the guise of memes, was likely talking to other teens this way at some point and using his platform/popularity to do it. It's not acceptable even if it was just "fiction", even if it isn't as bad a rape or molestation, and it's surprising how many people are writing this off as harmless. I believe it's likely Pyro was also groomed by older furfags. It could be a cyclical behavior. Regardless of if it's just talking, it hurts kid's sexual development to some degree and Pyro still took advantage and used grooming tactics (casually sharing pornography and normalizing ERPing) even if he wasn't criminally grooming Ivory. It's immoral and fucking weird if nothing else because he knew better.

A lot of hoes blatantly lie or exaggerate for attention. There is a time and a place to call bullshit. At this point, with all the evidence stacked up, I'm leaning on Ivory being honest. My concern right now is whether there were younger teens than Ivory, but because of the reception of Ivory's accusations, they are going to be too afraid of Pyro and his supporters.

Yeah theres no way Pyro didn't know Ivory's real age. That being said, I disagree that Pyro is actively using his influence to groom teens. It's definitely possible, hell it's pretty damn likely, but until other people come out, we can't say that for certain.

I do believe Ivory is being honest, but I also think his intentions aren't pure. I think he's doing this to sort of tie up loose ends, or maybe bring himself some inner peace by going after weirdos who enabled him.
Not that it's wrong to go after people who took advantage of you, but we should keep that in mind going forward.

It really is important to note how common and cyclical this is in furry and kink communities. I agree that Pyro was probably groomed himself by someone a bit older than him and he probably didn't see anything wrong with it. There was an accusation from some furry earlier that Ivory was now grooming teens as well and I honestly believe it. It's good that Ivory is trying to speak out about this because it happens *all the time* and most furries won't speak up because they've already completed the cycle and have started engaging in inappropriate behavior with minors as well and don't want their own victims to emerge but the cycle has to stop somewhere.

I do believe Ivory is being honest, but I also think his intentions aren't pure. I think he's doing this to sort of tie up loose ends, or maybe bring himself some inner peace by going after weirdos who enabled him.

 

[longjohn]

Why would Ivory going after people who took advantage of him or trying to find peace after coming to terms with his past taint his intentions? I could understand not fully trusting his motives because he is known to affiliate with others involved with the Slazo debacle I believe or even because he didn't handle his first info dump very gracefully. But I think he's fully justified in coming forward on the grounds that he was a 15/16 year old talking to a 20 year old who was not only not saying no but was actively engaging him. If there was clout chasing at play, would that negate the fact he was a minor being groomed by his older friends in that community especially if there could have been other boys?

Also, I don't assume Pyro is an active groomer, I think as a younger man he was taking advantage of his internet celebrity to expand his ERPing pool and sexually express himself and it resulted in him doing groomy things.

e: spelling

 

[Xerxes IX]

It really is important to note how common and cyclical this is in furry and kink communities. I agree that Pyro was probably groomed himself by someone a bit older than him and he probably didn't see anything wrong with it. There was an accusation from some furry earlier that Ivory was now grooming teens as well and I honestly believe it. It's good that Ivory is trying to speak out about this because it happens *all the time* and most furries won't speak up because they've already completed the cycle and have started engaging in inappropriate behavior with minors as well and don't want their own victims to emerge but the cycle has to stop somewhere.

Hell Glip/PurpleKecleon and Eevee, who are gross furry fetishists and pedo defenders, were active in the adult parts of the furry community before they were adults. Eevee even met up and had sex with an adult when he was 16, and IIRC while he identified that it was predatory behavior he never made the connection to his beliefs that incest and CP are fine. And his GF knowingly exposing kids who just wanted to see Pokemon art to porn.

And there's Puppychan who draws fetish art and hides behind a shield of "no it's not sexual I'm a minor and this is BODY POSITIVITY". Most likely she was groomed by furry kink communities too.

Furries need to stay the fuck away from teenagers but not enough of them have enough foresight to do the simplest thing like understanding they shouldn't send porn and talk about sex to anyone and everyone who speaks to them.

As for the ERP shit, there's a reason "notices your bulge OwO what's this" and other things about furries randomly ERPing out of nowhere are memes. Furries sure love their cringy ERPing.

 

[Velcheetah]

Pyrocynical fans are defending actual pedophilia so they don't have to risk saying their favorite YouTube meme man did something wrong. We're reaching lethal levels of copium overdosing.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Projared is based.
Pyrocynical is now based too (but less so because gay furry.)

 

[Pickle Dick]

Lol, I can't believe I white knighted him over a year ago for simping belle delphine

@Route 79 you were true chad

 

[PetrifiedTom]

Why I am having that impression that single famous YouTubers are deviants at least?

 

[Vorkland]

Why would Ivory going after people who took advantage of him or trying to find peace after coming to terms with his past taint his intentions? I could understand not fully trusting his motives because he is known to affiliate with others involved with the Slazo debacle I believe or even because he didn't handle his first info dump very gracefully. But I think he's fully justified in coming forward on the grounds that he was a 15/16 year old talking to a 20 year old who was not only not saying no but was actively engaging him. If there was clout chasing at play, would that negate the fact he was a minor being groomed by his older friends in that community especially if there could have been other boys?

Also, I don't assume Pyro is an active groomer, I think as a younger man he was taking advantage of his internet celebrity to expand his ERPing pool and sexually express himself and it resulted in him doing groomy things.

e: spelling

I never said he wasn't justified, here let me explain my thought process.

Someone on twitter uploaded videos recorded in 2017/2018. They were of people talking to Ivory about him simping for Pyro to get clout. Ivory responded to these tweets by blocking the users and saying how it was "wrong for them to record and upload private conversations"

I think Ivory did that because he's not open to discussion about his actions, and I think his hostile reaction to criticism is, at the very least, a bit shitty

 

[Velcheetah]

Someone on twitter uploaded videos recorded in 2017/2018. They were of people talking to Ivory about him simping for Pyro to get clout. Ivory responded to these tweets by blocking the users and saying how it was "wrong for them to record and upload private conversations"

The call recordings are from November 11 2016. The exact date is visible in the bottom right corner of the screen.
Ivory lives in a Two-Party Consent state (Pennsylvania). Recording him without his consent was illegal. It's also supremely creepy to record all your conversations and hang on to them for years. Maybe it's my own paranoia tinging my opinion but I don't see why you wouldn't block someone who revealed they're a fucking sociopath who committed a crime against you.

 

[longjohn]

I never said he wasn't justified, here let me explain my thought process.

Someone on twitter uploaded videos recorded in 2017/2018. They were of people talking to Ivory about him simping for Pyro to get clout. Ivory responded to these tweets by blocking the users and saying how it was "wrong for them to record and upload private conversations"

I think Ivory did that because he's not open to discussion about his actions, and I think his hostile reaction to criticism is, at the very least, a bit shitty

Admittedly I haven't watched the clip in question, so I don't know the context, if they were making accusations or if Ivory was claiming (or joking) about using Pyro. I can understand your point but he was 15 in 2016 (I'll take @Velcheetah's word) and was heavily active in fan culture and probably did want to rub shoulders with these YTers to get e-fame. That's the millenial and Zoomer dream. I don't really see that as being that damning in that context.

The implication of this is that Ivory sought out a relationship with Pyro to BlueSpike him, plotted this and held on to the DMs for 3-4 years waiting for the right time to drop them and get internet famous off metooing Pyro (despite metooing not becoming an internet phenomenon until a year later), and that this whole thing was a troll. That could be true, but I'm not feeling it. Seeing as how everyone and their mother is calling Ivory a liar without even looking at his evidence, if he was clout chasing, it blew up in his face. It was a failed op if it was one.

The fact that he only capped the DMs in current year is telling. Considering the Pyro account was deleted thus making it harder to definitively prove and he struggled to organize the info cleanly right off the bat makes me think this wasn't a long-game scheme but something he came to decide on now. Also, going off Ida's antagonistic messages and the fact that the other person recorded a very specific conversation with Ivory then and literally held it for 4 years, it seems more like this group of people have more interest in undermining Ivory's claims than Ivory seems to really have in clout chasing from what I know.

Could it be that this friend circle is shielding Pyro and suspected that Ivory might come out about the inappropriate relationship eventually? Maybe they chose to keep tabs on him looking for things that might weaken his later claims in attempts to protect Pyro and smear Ivory in return? Tinfoily, but we have 2 people of interest who could just as easily have ulterior motives.

I'm not trying to be a smartass btw @Vorkland , I realize maybe I seem like I'm being combative. lol! I'm just enjoying the thread and invested. e:also imo it was weird they recorded Ivory without his knowledge and I understand why he'd be mad. Everyone is being hostile toward him, and while he should be more willing to discuss his side, I don't doubt he's being blatantly attacked either. That might be why he's shutting down

 

[Strayserval]

So, with it being all but confirmed to be him what will he do. im feeling like he might nuke his channel and keep it on the downlow.

 

[Spoonomancer]

So, with it being all but confirmed to be him what will he do. im feeling like he might nuke his channel and keep it on the downlow.

nuking his channel would confirm to everyone that he did this, Pyro is going to ignore all of this since he is seemingly smart enough when it comes to things like this.

 

[Uncle Warren]

Recording him without his consent was illegal.

Some people say doxing is illegal but what are they going to do about it?

Two party consent is for phone calls anyway.

 

[Slowpoke Sonic]

Oh god, it's spreading.

seethe more faggot

 

[Velcheetah]

Some people say doxing is illegal but what are they going to do about it?

Two party consent is for phone calls anyway.

I’m just a layman so I might be wrong on this. But Pennsylvania’s Two-Party Consent law seems to cover all forms of communication when there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. Whether a private voice call channel on a public server qualifies for reasonable expectation I haven't a clue.

18 Pa.C.S.A. § 5703 Interception, disclosure or use of wire, electronic or oral communications
Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, a person is guilty of a felony of the third degree if he:
(1) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept any wire, electronic or oral communication;
(2) intentionally discloses or endeavors to disclose to any other person the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication; or
(3) intentionally uses or endeavors to use the contents of any wire, electronic or oral communication, or evidence derived therefrom, knowing or having reason to know, that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, electronic or oral communication.

I’m not suggesting KrasPootis is going to get extradited and thrown in the American slammer for this. The police in Pennsylvania aren’t going to call up the police in California (jurisdiction Discord is under which also has Two-Party Consent) and waste both jurisdictions' precious time and money chasing down some Lithuanian because one time he recorded a teenager being pissy. I’m just explaining why Ivory blocking Kras isn’t as deep or sinister as some people are trying to make it out to be.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Pyrocynical fans are defending actual pedophilia so they don't have to risk saying their favorite YouTube meme man did something wrong. We're reaching lethal levels of copium overdosing.
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I never would have thought that the guy who did the “So guys, we did it. 250,000 subscribers!” would have a fan base that looks like they were transported from a h3h3 subreddit. And I was just liking Pyro’s video about his love for Far Cry, too.

Why I am having that impression that single famous YouTubers are deviants at least?

It’s usually the mix between Commentary channels and the LetsPlays ones. I always thought it was the dyed hair, anime profile pics we had to worry about, but the former is increasing as of late.

 

[Uncle Warren]

when there is a reasonable expectation of privacy

Do you know why web sites changed Private Messages to Direct Messages? Implication of privacy that could not be reasonably provided.

So no, that law doesn't apply to that sort of thing.

 

[Red-Hot Copper]

Some people say doxing is illegal but what are they going to do about it?

Two party consent is for phone calls anyway.

Doxing is only illegal if you do something illegal with it, but who are you going to charge? The person who leaked the dox or the person who just so happened to want to beat the cow's face with a baseball bat?

 

[fartsnstuf]

obligatory since it's very appropriate in Pyro's case:

 

[Ponchik]

lol has he STILL not admitted that he has a fat fetish yet jesus fucking christ