2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Gehenna]

And especially considering everyone is already fucking sick of the rioting. The rioting is probably why the Democrats didn't get anything resembling a mandate.

Aye, and that plays heavily into why I say that that stuff kicking into high gear will only occur if Trump wins Pennsylvania. It will truly be a mask off moment, as the Democrats begin fighting for survival, not power. It will be hideous.

 

[Big Nasty]

Money never sleeps, and the USD has been steadily dropping in value against the EUR since they stopped the counts on the morning of 11/4.

 

[Gehenna]

Money never sleeps, and the USD has been steadily dropping in value against the EUR since they stopped the counts on the morning of 11/4.

No country legitimately buys that election. Even if they congratulate Biden with a pretty smile, its a mask covering a look of disgust.

Ironically, again IF Trump wins, it probably greatly improves his standing internationally. You never know what you had until its taken away.

 

[Puerto Pollo]

Sorry for mentioning so often Italy but we have a 30 years long experience in fighting the pozzed left when they had already evolved past literally shaking and getting triggered by pronouns: we're talking about kidnapping/murders of politicians, blowing up banks and train stations and burning alive the families of police officers in their own homes back in the 70s. And look at us now, we're more based than ever. Take this as a whitepill American friends.

Here's the based approach of Francesco Cossiga, who got later voted all the way to President of the Republic for his hard work:

"Maroni should do what I did when I was secretary of the interior. He should withdraw the police from the streets and the universities, infiltrate the movement with secret (provocateurs) agents, ready to do anything, and, for about 10 days, let the demonstrators devastate shops, set fire to cars and lay waste to the cities. After which, strengthened by popular consent, the sound of ambulance sirens should be louder than the police cars. The security forces should massacre the demonstrators without pity, and send them all to hospital. They shouldn't arrest them, because the magistrates would release them immediately, but they should beat them up. And they should also beat up those teachers who stir them up. Especially the teachers. Not the elderly lecturers, of course, but most of all beat the young female teachers to a pulp. This is the only democratic way, to put off the fire before it turns into a wildfire. Never forget this: the Red Brigades were not a spontaneous result of the factory worker hardships; they were created by the university system".

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I'm not murican and I can only really get the reaction of the country from the hysterical social media and the lying mainstream media. What is the reaction of the normal person on the street? In general they accepting the media narrative that all was fair and Trump lost or are they suspicious that something is up even if they don't know what? I get it will vary significantly between the rural rust belt and the urban ghettos but is this business as usual for an election or is this one that is generally considered illegitimate? It's really hard to tell from the outside.

I'm curious about this. Looking at it from the outside it's very worrying. It looks like the media will just crown Biden and then all the Twitter cunts will be like 'Biden won. Suck it up snowflakes' and anyone who dissents will be banned.

-Deep- Skepticism among Republicans, general hesitant but jubilant acceptance by Democrats. Independents and moderates are generally a mixed bag. Its part of why i don't buy that the media push is meant to de-legitimize Trump... everyone is either decided, or unlikely to be persuaded by the media. It's pointless.

Fair enough. But then everyone in China knows that the CCP massacred people in Tiananmen Square. The problem is they also know that they can't come out and say that. The media narrative that nothing happened has won. The media doesn't need to convince you, it just needs to convince you that it's not in your best interests to dispute the narrative.

Trump is a lot of things. Graceful is not one of them. I would even say honorable is a stretch.

I've often thought that if the Democrats were going to try something like this then Trump and his outriders like Bannon, while very flawed people are probably the best people to be in charge of trying to stop it. A Romney or a Bush would just have conceded the day after the election and all their lackeys would have kept getting invited to the hopefully purely allegorical DC cocktail parties.

I can't imagine anything worse than an actual DC cocktail party. If they do exist I can see why Hunter Biden ended up preferring to smoke crack in hovels to them.

No country legitimately buys that election. Even if they congratulate Biden with a pretty smile, its a mask covering a look of disgust.

Ironically, again IF Trump wins, it probably greatly improves his standing internationally. You never know what you had until its taken away.

Depressingly I bet Boris has been told by MI6 that they've talked to their American counterparts and been told that Trump will not be allowed back into office and it's time to congratulate Biden on his 'win' because he will punish the UK if it does not. If it does he might just let that trade deal go through and decide he's OK with the whole Northern Ireland border thing and that he thinks Boris is a good man who has addressed his concerns. It's not that the UK legitimately buys that it's a fair election, it's that it knows it is not and that sucking up to Biden now will be repaid later.

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
John Harrington

Though you know the world has gone to shit when you're quoting him about a US election.

 

[Gehenna]

Fair enough. But then everyone in China knows that the CCP massacred people in Tiananmen Square. The problem is they also know that they can't come out and say that. The media narrative that nothing happened has won. The media doesn't need to convince you, it just needs to convince you that it's not in your best interests to dispute the narrative.

The problem for the democrats is that they don't have that kind of power anywhere but their fantasies. At least not yet. So the dissent steadily grows, and how long until the moderates grow disgusted too?

 

[Maamtis]

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11/08/scalise-election-laws-werent-followed-in-2020-very-serious-concerns/

House Minority Whip Steve Scalise is claiming election laws were not followed. This is significant because it is the job of the Whip to enforce party doctrine, so this will likely be what the overall Republican party line will be going into 2021 and beyond.

39 House Republicans Ask AG Barr to Ensure Integrity of Voting Process

More than three dozen House Republicans penned a letter to Barr asking him what he is doing to ensure the integrity of the voting process.

www.breitbart.com

Barr has also been petitioned by a handful of House R’s. It’s honestly a paltry number. But the fire has been lit, Gondor calls for aid.

AND IN TANGENTALLY RELATED NEWS, AOC HAS DELIVERED HER ULTIMATUM

AOC vs. DNC: Ocasio-Cortez Threatens To Quit Politics, Slams "Hostile" Dems For Not Being Progressive Enough

“Externally, there’s been a ton of support, but internally, it’s been extremely hostile to anything that even smells progressive.”

www.zerohedge.com

What a cow. She’ll be speaker one day if she learns to stop acting like a retard, but I guess Marxists gonna Marx.

Is this a Michael Jordan situation where when he retired it was rumoured to be a cover for a gambling suspension? With the allegations against her I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Kane Lives]

I'd note two things for today:

Today the lawsuits drop, and we wait in baited breath to see their quality. If they look solid though, providing clear argumentation and concise evidence of fraud, two things are going to happen over the next week.

So when are they dropping? Right on the dot at 9AM?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Didn't SCOTUS already make a ruling a while back saying that any states with "faithless elector" laws that punish them for going rogue are completely legal? I wouldn't put too much hope into them to turn the tide one way or another.

Edit: They did actually.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf

https://www.heritage.org/courts/commentary/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-safeguards-electoral-college

Basically, as I questioned above, what they say here is that faithless elector laws are Constitutional, the laws that punish the electors or remove them from their position if they go rogue so I believe the faithless elector idea is already dead in the water, the case came to SCOTUS following the 2016 and the faithless electors that cast their votes for others besides either Hillary or Trump.

So what I'm hearing is this Hail Mary move is already dead in the water.

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The simulation is winking at us again.

And today Roberts is a legit coin flip with every case. I don't trust him at all.

Sorry for mentioning so often Italy but we have a 30 years long experience in fighting the pozzed left when they had already evolved past literally shaking and getting triggered but pronouns: we're talking about kidnapping/murders of politicians, blowing up banks and train stations and burning the families of police officers alive in their own homes back in the 70s. And look at us now, we're more based than ever. Take this as a whitepill American friends.

Here's the based approach of Francesco Cossiga, who got later voted all the way to President of the Republic for his hard work:

"Maroni should do what I did when I was secretary of the interior. He should withdraw the police from the streets and the universities, infiltrate the movement with secret (provacateurs) agents, ready to do anything, and, for about 10 days, let the demonstrators devastate shops, set fire to cars and lay waste the cities. After which, strengthened by popular consent, the sound of ambulance sirens should be louder than the police cars. The security forces should massacre the demonstrators without pity, and send them all to hospital. They shouldn't arrest them, because the magistrates would release them immediately, but they should beat them up. And they should also beat up those teachers who stir them up. Especially the teachers. Not the elderly lecturers, of course, but most of all beat the young female teachers to a pulp. This is the only democratic way, to put off the fire before it turns into a wildfire. Never forget this: the Red Brigades were not a spontaneous result of the hard-working conditions of the factory workers; they were created by the university system".

Here's the thing though: Does America have that time? China isn't getting any weaker, the machine is doing double time to make sure Trump's last effort ends in abject failure so they can swear in Biden, and AOC is looking to start the purge of conservatives from society. And only Trump has the disregard for optics and PR to go to the crazy lengths to fight his opponents, and the GOP as we know it has no real fight to them. The Democrats are ready to move to progressive utopia, and all they have to do is either get one last victory or run out the clock to December 14th.

 

[Gehenna]

So when are they dropping? Right on the dot at 9AM?

We don't know, as far as I know its never been said exactly when. We just know that it is on Monday.

 

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So what I'm hearing is this Hail Mary move is already dead in the water.

Faithless Electors are a protected thing. It's built into our system.

The two party system, which is actually anathema to our system but something we've just had to put up with, subverts this by sending electors that are party loyalists. I.e., Hillary Fucking Clinton.

But yeah the ultimate 2020 move would be Faithless Electors flipping the election, but I don't see that happening.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I wonder if SCOTUS will just declare the vote count at 8 PM stands due to count fuckery. Would that put PA over to Trump?

What was it at that time? I don't remember anyone doing an hour by hour blow.

 

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What was it at that time? I don't remember anyone doing an hour by hour blow.

Someone at TheDonald.win did. If they do set it to 8 PM, Trump wins absurdly hugely. One might even say BIGLY. Until the "stop stop we found more boxes in a trunk" crap Trump was completely destroying most of the swing states.

 

[Kekky]

I'd note two things for today:

Today the lawsuits drop, and we wait in baited breath to see their quality. If they look solid though, providing clear argumentation and concise evidence of fraud, two things are going to happen over the next week.

1: America finds out who its friends actually are. I am not too fussed about any world leader congratulating Joe at this juncture. Right now he is the 'clear' President-Elect, and Trump has not brought any good evidence to the table. If they wait and see, they snub a potential president Biden. if they congratulate Biden, its business as usual. If a solid case is dropped though, they suddenly have wiggle room. "America currently has a disputed election with no clear winner, we will hold back from further support of either side until the due process of law finishes. We look forward to working with the winner." Expect some variant of that line from a lot of countries. If one doesn't say it, they have all but fallen in line behind Biden and Trump will remember this should he win.

2: The Great Backstab. Right now, the establishment isn't taking this too seriously. They kinda can't. Biden's entire ascendancy is based on a lie and anything other than "business as usual" risks alerting the voting base as to how scum shit this is. Its why you only really see news articles about either the 'inevitable' Biden transition or yet another alleged call on Trump to resign.

This all goes out the window if those cases look strong.

The media is only a leverage to power, not the source itself. If the cases are strong, the media push becomes -worthless-. I disagree with most of the more leery people in in that they believe the media push is meant to normalize a Biden Presidency so that most Americans think Trump is the one who stole it. Put simply, as soon as an American hears "The Supreme Court Decided", they are likely to figure out that something fraudulent happened with the election. The blitz, I'd propose, was instead a big pressure campaign on Trump and his allies to convince him to concede or to turn against Trump.

If the cases are good, that line is going to fall to the wayside and it is going to become an -ugly- brawl. The Great Backstab is going to be when large parts of the Republican Establishment, some allied countries, and possibly members of the administration itself begin trying to wound Trump. The purpose of the media blitz was meant to be a way to force Trump into a concession without alerting the prolls, The Great Backstab is going to be them doing all they can to force a concession right up to the edge of completely discarding the illusion of legitimacy.


By the way, this is also why I say that if Trump wins the Pennsylvania case, things get -truly- ugly, and the terrorism starts. Because that will be the last stage. When they throw off the illusion of legitimacy entirely. Something to keep in mind, its not just the RIGHT fighting for its very existence. This fraud was to blatant, and the lefts motivations said to clearly. If Trump wins, every effort will be made to -gut- the democrats. So if that final stage kicks into action, expect the democrats to realize they too now face an existential threat and to go at it not with lawfare, but warfare. We live in interesting times.

Eyes should keep focused on Fraud coming out of Philadelphia County (natch) but also, Delaware, Bucks, and Montgomery counties. Hunter named Rosemont Seneca after a town on the "Main Line" located in both Montgomery and Delaware counties. Jim Biden ran one of his LLC out of his 2 million dollar house in Merion Station in Montgomery county (border of Philly)
They hava lot of quiet influence in SEPA. (Southeast PA)

 

[captkrisma]

Somewhat personal story time: Friends of mine were "Hey you'd" by the Department of the Army to be recruiters in the New England area. One of the schools refused to allow recruiters inside despite taking in federal money for "No Child Left Behind". They gave the school 5 separate warnings, delivered to the principal by hand, and were still shut down...so they requested the federal funding pulled and it was granted. The shit he got out walking near the school was incredible, and it led to families to walking into the center just to cuss the recruiters out.

Now are the recruiters the bad guys for following the laws and going through the legal system? Or is it the principal that was flippant despite all the warnings given?

This is the same situation that Trump is going through in PA. He has the legal right to challenge any results, and yet he's the bad guy for doing the right thing? Fucking clowns.

 

[Corn Flakes]

He has to win AZ, which he's projected to do so barring fuckery, and PA, which the SCOTUS has already signaled they aren't amused about. If he doesn't win AZ, he has to flip GA, WI, MI, or NV.

This presumes AK and NC go to him. They seem to be frozen in time awaiting the word on if they need to find votes for Biden or not.

I wonder if SCOTUS will just declare the vote count at 8 PM stands due to count fuckery. Would that put PA over to Trump?

That is never going to happen. At most, and that's a very long shot depending hugely on what the lawsuits argue, SCOTUS might invalidate any votes counted after the states paused counting as that could be argued to be the earliest point where signs of fraud have become obvious.

 

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That is never going to happen. At most, and that's a very long shot depending hugely on what the lawsuits argue, SCOTUS might invalidate any votes counted after the states paused counting as that could be argued to be the earliest point where signs of fraud have become obvious.

Which would be 8 PM, wouldn't it?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

This is also why I lean away from "The media is just trying to delegitimize him". It makes more sense as the initial pressure tactic to get him to 'lose with dignity'. Even if it was unlikely to succeed, it would have driven a wedge between Trump and his allies while letting the democrats look like they are just doing business as usual. So, good strategy.

AOC and her lot kinda fucked it though. They put the Republican's backs to the wall fairly well in a massive own goal. I Guarantee you that had they kept their mouths shut the GOP's support would have been far more tepid if not outright non existent if NOT outright hostile.

In UK terms it reminds me a bit of the Civil War. The King lost and was executed but Cromwell set himself up as Lord Protector, King in all but name.

The Levellers pushed for proto Communism and he crushed them. Ireland rebelled and he crushed them in a way that was brutal even by the standards of the time. Cromwell is still hated in Ireland to this day.

So I think you're right. A Democrat New Order regime is clearly going to be based on the Blair/Clinton Third Way pseudo ideology. Then that Democrat congresswoman said she didn't want to hear about 'socialism' or 'the Green New Deal' ever again she wasn't just whinging, she was signalling that she knows what the New Order will be and that AOC needs to 'lose' an 'election' regardless of votes just like Bernie did.

The problem for the democrats is that they don't have that kind of power anywhere but their fantasies. At least not yet. So the dissent steadily grows, and how long until the moderates grow disgusted too?

It's a shame we don't have any way to gauge the extent to which this is happening. The media and polls are all going to be lies for the foreseeable future and I'd expect people like Tariq Nasheed who've crossed the new regime to be silenced.

It's a shame really. Even if he's a leftist him telling Bunty King 'I'll steal yo' camel' was hilarious.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Which would be 8 PM, wouldn't it?

To be honest, election night is a bit of a blur to me. The tequila didn't help. I thought each state first paused at a different time?

 

[starborn427614]

To be honest, election night is a bit of a blur to me. The tequila didn't help. I thought each state first paused at a different time?

One would think they'd have to given timezones and such.