2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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“In Pennsylvania, three Republican leaders told me they had already discussed the direct appointment of electors among themselves, and one said he had discussed it with Trump’s national campaign.

“I’ve mentioned it to them, and I hope they’re thinking about it too,” Lawrence Tabas, the Pennsylvania Republican Party’s chairman, told me. “I just don’t think this is the right time for me to be discussing those strategies and approaches, but [direct appointment of electors] is one of the options. It is one of the available legal options set forth in the Constitution.” He added that everyone’s preference is to get a swift and accurate count. “If the process, though, is flawed, and has significant flaws, our public may lose faith and confidence” in the election’s integrity.

Jake Corman, the state’s Senate majority leader, preferred to change the subject, emphasizing that he hoped a clean vote count would produce a final tally on Election Night. “The longer it goes on, the more opinions and the more theories and the more conspiracies [are] created,” he told me. If controversy persists as the safe-harbor date nears, he allowed, the legislature will have no choice but to appoint electors. “We don’t want to go down that road, but we understand where the law takes us, and we’ll follow the law.”

Republicans control both legislative chambers in the six most closely contested battleground states. Of those, Arizona and Florida have Republican governors, too. In Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, the governors are Democrats.”


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DIRECT APPOINTMENT IS BEING DISCUSSED
They stopped teaching civics in school so you're gonna have to tell me what this means exactly.
 
Here's the thing... we are seeing something I have not seen before. Red States, working towards a single goal, and that goal is to fuck the democrats.

What if this becomes the new norm? What if the republicans decide they LIKE winning?
Don't get my hopes up just to see them cuck out after this.
Esper was against Insurrection Act last summer. No promises, but the replacement with a counterterrorism glownigger is interesting to note.
That is interesting, since it was actually to Trump's benefit imo to not pull the Insurrection Act trigger in the summer. But yes, should prove promising.
 
They stopped teaching civics in school so you're gonna have to tell me what this means exactly.

In the end, the state government gets to pick who they send to the Electoral College. If they decide an election is invalid -- i.e., refuse to certify it -- they can just send whomever they want in instead.

In other words, if there's too much fuckery without resolution, PA (and other states) can just say fuckit.
 
They stopped teaching civics in school so you're gonna have to tell me what this means exactly.
Pennsylvania state assembly can just say fuck the election and appoint their own electors, which is not only constitutional, but the way things used to be done way back when (not in PA ironically enough).
 
In the end, the state government gets to pick who they send to the Electoral College. If they decide an election is invalid -- i.e., refuse to certify it -- they can just send whomever they want in instead.

In other words, if there's too much fuckery without resolution, PA (and other states) can just say fuckit.
What's the result of that? Does that mean Trump gets it by default or they're just flushing the votes and disqualifying the state from the electoral college?
 
Speaking of masks slipping - I'm also grateful that Netanyahu betrayed Trump so soon, and so publicly, so that in Trump's second term he can't delude himself about who is really a snake and who is not.

The US really needs to reduce to this parasitic one-way relationship to a barebone level

Did he "betray" him? He just said congrats to Biden when everyone is acting like Biden has won already. Seems like typical international politics.

Abandoning a friend in need at the biggest time of trouble. Trump will never forget this. Fuck that medieval stereotype snake.
 
Don't get my hopes up just to see them cuck out after this.
This- for anything thinking that it's an optimistic appraisal, Florida 2018 serves as the template.
I'm gonna put my neck on the line and make a political prediction. now, this could just me being high on a fucking sweep of good news, but I am noticing a few things.

Things ain't ever gonna be the way they were before.

The Ohio Legislature comes from a swing state who has no dog in this race. They handily went to Trump, no questions are raised about their validity. Why? Why would a republican legislature stick its neck out? The reason I see as most likely is... they liked winning. 4 years of a new republican party had been brewing, 4 years that Republicans saw continuing success, over performing in each election cycle. Sure, Trump himself is a bit of a jackass... but his policies have proven immensely successful.

So why stick their neck out?

Because they -want- to.

That seems a bit reductionist or redundant, but it shows something that hasn't been seen in -any- Republican body since Reagan. Initiative. A REPUBLICAN party apparatus in a swing STATE did something risky ON ITS OWN ACCORD, with NOTHING forcing it to.

Think about that. Really think about it.
 
I haven't checked the thread in a couple days and I know this has probably been said a few times before but I'd just like to write this down somewhere.

Assuming Biden gets in and Trump steps down, on balance this this was a horrible outcome for the left in America. Behind the attempts at imitating the jubilation of their brain dead followers I have to think DNC strategists are shitting themselves behind closed doors.

The election for the presidency was very close. As of now (and it will change slightly) Biden is winning Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvanian collectively by less than 100,000 thousand votes, it came down to the Midwest again because Biden could afford to loose both Arizona and Georgia and still just barely stay over the top assuming the Midwest held for him, loosing any of them at that point would end it and we're talking about margins of 20,000 and 45,000 in WI and PA.

If you had shown me this years electoral map and told me we had similar 55-60% turnout as the last few elections I would have thought it was comfortable victory for Biden but definitely not a blowout. Arizona and Georgia flipping were in the realm of possibility if it wen't well for Biden, but in a blowout Florida would have likely flipped and maybe Texas as well.

But knowing the record turnout we're seeing across the board and the small margins in some states has me looking at the map and imagining the ones we were very close to getting in astonishment. Before last week if you had told me we would be getting this turnout I'd have assumed the GOP would not only loose the presidency by a landslide in the EC, but that they would be absolutely BTFO across the board.

The only excuse I'll give the DNC is they chose to field a walking corpse as their candidate, hatred for Trump on the left outweighed the lack of enthusiasm for Biden, the loss of the presidency alongside GOP gains in the house and a pitched senate battle support that. I think that's what primarily drove turnout on the left.

That could indicate a massive problem for them going forward. The conventional wisdom the left had put their hopes in for the last couple decades, that higher participation in an election typically means left leaning populations who don't participate as much as more conservative ones will be reached in higher numbers, didn't seem to play out this year judging by the close margins we're seeing in some places. The disparity between the presidency and congressional races potentially indicates an even bigger problem, the well of potential die hard leftists is running dry and they're only reaching more moderate sections of those populations.

This should have been the strongest showing the DNC had in decades and yet Trump got closer then the last two candidates the GOP put forward, that isn't going unnoticed. The next candidate will incorporate his platform and some aspects of his personality and tone, but probably not as much that it rubs some people so badly.
 
how bad did the dnc fuck up that even rinos are scared they'll lose future elections.
Did not clean up the state like in Florida post-2018, and allowed Stacey Abrams' Dems to assemble a massive ballot harvesting operation using a loophole in the law.

The GA-GOP are unfortunately old-school, slow southern-gentry Republicans, unable to respond quickly to the quick and ruthless Atlanta Democrats. Both the current governor and senator will need to be primaried and replaced, if they manage to survive the run-off election.

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