US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

Is mail in voting autistic?


  • Total voters
    92
  • Poll closed .
You can vote in the state that you most recently registered to vote in. So if the people that moved didn't register to vote in thier new state then, they could go back and vote in their old one. You aren't allowed to be registered to vote in two different states and are not allowed to vote in two different states for the same election.
Who told you that lie?. It's not based on voter registration at all.

Once you permanently move out of the state you no longer meet the residency requirements for that state, in any state, even if you haven't yet formally cancelled your voter registration there yet. The states may have slightly differing criteria for the demarcation point. But it's usually once you've packed all your shit and actually left. It does get weird with multiple residences though.

It would be illegal to vote if you've already moved out and you can get slapped with election fraud charges if you do and get caught (though that's rare to actually be charged).
 
http://archive.md/2020.11.07-125714/https://twitter.com/MeldolaNeora/status/1325051446757388288 Should post this here too, awfully strange that there was a sudden spike in activity of these keywords from the states where this shady shit is occurring. Could be a coincidence, but also could be the other very possible scenario, of someone researching the crime they are going to commit as a way to get away with it.

Is it the voter fraud punishment search results that floated around?
 
I wouldn't trust the affidavits because any idiot can find a lawyer can go and draw one up and there's enough Qtards out there to risk perjury charges over lying on an affidavit.
...yet. That's why I said: When this is over. Admittedly, I was being hyperbolic, so yeah. Maybe Trump won't be as bad as the DNC, after all, they were working that ridiculous collusion angle for 4 years and never let go of it, but on the other hand, it's fairly easy to imagine that Trump and his supporters will forever claim that this election was stolen - no matter what decision any court or investigation comes to. It'll just become yet another crazy Pizzagate/QAnon-tier conspiritard theory about how Biden stole the election and we'll never hear the end of it.
That being said, Trump is a sore loser and his behaviour and the shit that he orders his team to do makes him look like a moron who can't accept defeat in a graceful manner. What legacy he might have had will be pissed away in these last few months. I won't be surprised if Trump keeps
Except an election being stolen isn't a stupid conspiracy, it's something that can be proven by looking at the facts. It happens all the time in other countries (Boris Yeltsin in Russia cheated his way to office in 1996, something confirmed by his own associates years later) and it was very common historically. It happened in the US in the 1876 election and almost certainly happened in 1884 (Tammany Hall reluctantly gave Grover Cleveland a narrow in New York that won him the election), in 1960 when JFK stole the election from Nixon using big city bosses like Chicago mayor Richard Daley (8,000 Kennedy votes allegedly won Illinois), or Bush stealing it from Gore in 2000 (Jeb! doing his brother a favor, plus Dubya was the deep state's golden boy compared to a relative outside like Gore).

It would be interesting to draw up a list of stolen elections in US history. In every single election there is no doubt some election fraud but in some elections this has changed who won.
 
I wouldn't trust the affidavits because any idiot can find a lawyer can go and draw one up and there's enough Qtards out there to risk perjury charges over lying on an affidavit.

Except an election being stolen isn't a stupid conspiracy, it's something that can be proven by looking at the facts. It happens all the time in other countries (Boris Yeltsin in Russia cheated his way to office in 1996, something confirmed by his own associates years later) and it was very common historically. It happened in the US in the 1876 election and almost certainly happened in 1884 (Tammany Hall reluctantly gave Grover Cleveland a narrow in New York that won him the election), in 1960 when JFK stole the election from Nixon using big city bosses like Chicago mayor Richard Daley (8,000 Kennedy votes allegedly won Illinois), or Bush stealing it from Gore in 2000 (Jeb! doing his brother a favor, plus Dubya was the deep state's golden boy compared to a relative outside like Gore).

It would be interesting to draw up a list of stolen elections in US history. In every single election there is no doubt some election fraud but in some elections this has changed who won.
As I said, it's not the "what", it's the "how" that makes this an utter shitshow on the levels of 2016 Hillary-supporters blowing fuse after fuse. If there are reasons to doubt the outcome of the election, it can and should be investigated.

But no matter what the investigation would (or will) find out, do you think Trump simps will acknowledge that his loss was legitimate? Say, they found prove that beyond any reasonable shadow of a doubt proves that the election was legit, Trump simps will still forever claim the election was stolen, facts be damned, and it will become just another conspiracy. That is my entire point. I never said that it's unfathomable that this (or any other election in the history of the US) was ever stolen.
 
  • Dumb
Reactions: Dante Alighieri
But no matter what the investigation would (or will) find out, do you think Trump simps will acknowledge that his loss was legitimate?

Trump simps, no obv not. everybody else, yeah, i would like to think people caring about democracy and fair elections would aknowledge Biden as legit President. personally, i find it highly suspicious that MSM and SoMe is running interference on anything that would help Trump, not that it is really surprising, but they seem scared to me, idk

we´re not going to know anything solid until the legal mudslinging starts(/stops), so in the meantime im just enjoying the shitshow of the century so far. :)
 
Trump simps, no obv not. everybody else, yeah, i would like to think people caring about democracy and fair elections would aknowledge Biden as legit President. personally, i find it highly suspicious that MSM and SoMe is running interference on anything that would help Trump, not that it is really surprising, but they seem scared to me, idk

we´re not going to know anything solid until the legal mudslinging starts(/stops), so in the meantime im just enjoying the shitshow of the century so far. :)
Whether or not there was fraud, I still won't consider it "legitimate." Dems/news media/social media have been lying about and censoring information hardcore for the whole term, well beyond anything we've ever witnessed, and kicked it into ultra high gear the last few months. People actually think Trump said wignats are "very fine people." I'm not going to pitch a fit over it though. As parents would say, "Im not mad, im just... disappointed."
 
So I keep hearing about how in places like Georgia ect Republicans have always wanted to surpress the black vote etc.

How true is shit like that?

I wouldn't trust the affidavits because any idiot can find a lawyer can go and draw one up and there's enough Qtards out there to risk perjury charges over lying on an affidavit.

Things are so stacked against Trump that if anyone is caught committing perjury on his side it is over for him. He must know that. In short, I am predisposed to believing it.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Aaa0aaa0
So I keep hearing about how in places like Georgia ect Republicans have always wanted to surpress the black vote etc.

How true is shit like that?



Things are so stacked against Trump that if anyone is caught committing perjury on his side it is over for him. He must know that. In short, I am predisposed to believing it.
When they say voter supression they mean photo ID which is scanned in poling places to prevent any joe schmoe from voting if they hadn't registered to vote. Georgia has a voter ID law and the left thinks blacks are too stupid to actually get an ID even though you need one for liqour and cigarettes.
 
So I keep hearing about how in places like Georgia ect Republicans have always wanted to surpress the black vote etc.

How true is shit like that?



Things are so stacked against Trump that if anyone is caught committing perjury on his side it is over for him. He must know that. In short, I am predisposed to believing it.
The two main things they mean by "voter suppression" are voter roll purges (removing people from the list of active voters without notifying them, thus they show up to vote and find out they can't) and closing polling stations in poorer, predominantly black areas (forcing these voters to travel longer distances to vote and wait in longer lines - some may end up being turned away when polls close before they make it to the front, others have to leave without voting after waiting for hours because of job or family obligations, others may not be able to arrange transportation out of their area, etc.). Other things include unprocessed voter registrations, malfunctioning and unmaintained machines in poorer areas, etc.

Dems in some states, like Virginia, chose to address this by making election day a state holiday. This helps ease wait lines and makes sure voters can take time off work to vote. However, it has the downside of also making it a school holiday, so it could make it harder to vote for some young parents. Another way they address it is by increasing the early voting period. Both election holidays and early voting have been opposed by Republicans.

The reason you're probably hearing about Georgia lately is because Stacey Abram's Fair Fight initiative is being touted as key to reversing fortunes in swing states, incl. Georgia where it's based (Abrams is fairly moderate and has been criticized by progressives for working with the state GOP on nonpartisan initiatives). It seems the Dem party is starting to think their future lies in simply getting the vote out rather than preaching to the local black churchgoers the glories of a socialist revolution and a community without policing - just like the worst ghettoes in America and Brazilian favelas, and who wouldn't want that?




As for the second part.... we've already had one affidavit-based lawsuit collapse into a nothingburger:
The Clark County Registrar, Joe Gloria, did not go as far as to say Stokke is lying, but he did say in their mind, she did vote.

“I personally met with Ms. Stokke. She brought her claim to me, we reviewed the ballot, and in our opinion, it’s her signature,” Gloria said. “We also gave her an opportunity to provide a statement if she wanted to object to that and provide a challenge to that. She refused to do so. A member of the Secretary of State’s Office investigation team also interviewed her, and they had no issue with the assistance that we tried to give her. I have nothing else to comment on that, next question.”

In Thursday’s news conference, Stokke mentioned Channel 8, saying our I-Team Reporter David Charns told her we had received emails and calls about voting inconsistencies.

Charns said he told Stokke when he interviewed her, and the I-Team has repeatedly reported that voter fraud is extremely rare, and their sources tell them there is no widespread coordinated effort of voter fraud that they are aware of.

So this blind woman claimed that someone stole her ballot and voted for her, but it turns out upon investigation the signatures matched. She refused the opportunity to challenge the finding. She refused the opportunity to cast a new vote. She falsely claimed a local news reporter told her they had received plenty of backup from other voters. And now she just gets to fade back into the woodwork.

So, someone already was caught lying and apparently it's still not over for him... lol. Quantity over quality I suppose.

EDIT: I found another one. Sharpiegate lawsuit was quietly dropped by the plaintiffs - they filed for dismissal of their own suit on Saturday. I can't believe they've done so much damage to the Sharpie name brand after Trump favored it through his presidency.
 
Last edited:
In regards to Point 2, I was not talking about lawsuits filed by others but rather his legal team.

But thanks for the info. This bodes poorly from all I am hearing...
 
In regards to Point 2, I was not talking about lawsuits filed by others but rather his legal team.

But thanks for the info. This bodes poorly from all I am hearing...

Fair enough.
In another suit, Trump’s presidential campaign asked a judge to stop all processing of absentee ballots in Michigan.
In that case, a Republican election observer said she’d been given a sticky note by an unnamed poll worker, alleging that late-arriving ballots were being counted improperly. But she couldn’t provide the poll worker’s name or any other proof. A judge rejected that, saying that the GOP’s evidence was inadmissible as hearsay. (WaPo)

So an election observer allegedly got a hearsay sticky note from a poll worker but when it was being investigated she couldn't back up her claim with a name, a description to help with identification, or any evidence. The GOP's sole evidence was a sticky note. In that article you can also find a number of claims being condemned by Republican state officials as being baseless.


EDIT: Another here
Late on Wednesday, the Georgia Republican Party joined forces with the Trump campaign in a lawsuit filed in the Superior Court of Chatham County in Georgia. The Trump campaign asked that absentee ballots received after 7 p.m. on Election Day not be counted.
The complaint also contained a sworn declaration by a poll watcher named Sean Pumphrey with a vague account about a stack of 53 ballots. He did not allege, and provided no evidence of, any impropriety.
The day after filing a petition, the Trump campaign lost an election lawsuit in Georgia on Thursday after two witnesses called by Republicans admitted under oath that they did not know whether the challenged ballots were received on time. Two witnesses for Chatham County’s board of elections affirmed that the ballots were on time.
Poll watcher affidavit presented by the GOP with vague insinuations concerning 53 ballots. Under oath, he and their other key witness admitted they weren't aware of them being untimely or in any way improper. Case dismissed.
 
Last edited:
Fair enough.


So an election observer allegedly got a hearsay sticky note from a poll worker but when it was being investigated she couldn't back up her claim with a name, a description to help with identification, or any evidence. The GOP's sole evidence was a sticky note. In that article you can also find a number of claims being condemned by Republican state officials as being baseless.

As I said, this does not bode well.

The fuck is his legal team doing?
 
  • Feels
Reactions: DudeWeedLol
As I said, this does not bode well.

The fuck is his legal team doing?
I believe it’s the legal equivalent of “grasping at straws” but it’s whatever, there’s an old adage in election law where if you lose, you sue. Gore sued, Kerry sued, McCain sued, Romney sued and Hillary sued. Trump is just making a public spectacle of this because, well, Trump
 
I believe it’s the legal equivalent of “grasping at straws” but it’s whatever, there’s an old adage in election law where if you lose, you sue. Gore sued, Kerry sued, McCain sued, Romney sued and Hillary sued. Trump is just making a public spectacle of this because, well, Trump

I mean yes but it is just I have seen more than enough evidence...it surprises me they went with a blind womem etc. That just seems real dumb.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Palpatine
Back