US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

[Palpatine]

Gore sued over some serious bullshit. This election, on the other hand, has so much irregularities that if it happened in any country other then the US people would be crying foul immediately. Something has to give.

 

[potato fan]

has this been posted yet?

 

[EyelessMC]

When they say voter supression they mean photo ID which is scanned in poling places to prevent any joe schmoe from voting if they hadn't registered to vote. Georgia has a voter ID law and the left thinks blacks are too stupid to actually get an ID even though you need one for liqour and cigarettes.

That's weird since NYC made me show my ID etc. to vote

 

[Literally Murdered]

I mean yes but it is just I have seen more than enough evidence...it surprises me they went with a blind womem etc. That just seems real dumb.

I think part of the shitshow is that you've got GOP at all levels trying it on. The Trump campaign probably has core cases they're bringing, plus a few unlikely gambits, but by doing so and making a scene Republicans at state and local levels will be emboldened to bring their own cases for specific races. Those cases won't necessarily be well-founded and motives for bringing them will differ (eg local political rivalries, long-held grudges, desire for notoriety or career advancement). Even as pres you can't make your party's retards shut the fuck up and let you work.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

That's weird since NYC made me show my ID etc. to vote

That's double weird since over here on Long Island nobody asked for an ID. My family and I just got our voter cards in the mail, and the day of voting, we handed in our cards, they made us sign our names on their iPads and that was it.

 

[Particle Bored]

As I said, this does not bode well.

The fuck is his legal team doing?

There's theory he could use courts to stall and run out the clock until the House has to vote and its 1 vote per state or something.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Kayleigh on a rampage.

Official Team Trump @TeamTrump

LIVE: Press Conference with Kayleigh McEnany and RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel

www.pscp.tv

 

[Palpatine]

Kayleigh on a rampage.

Official Team Trump @TeamTrump

LIVE: Press Conference with Kayleigh McEnany and RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel

www.pscp.tv

Any new evidence provided there?

 

[surprisemfka]

A tiktok video of a supposed election worker recording himself destroying and throwing away trump votes is going viral on twitter.
original tweet with video https://twitter.com/Kyudo_hankyu/status/1325869509140344837
signal boosted by actor James Woods https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1325928010453676032
archive
video backup https://streamable.com/qbzvpi

 

[Constellationzero]

A tiktok video of a supposed election worker recording himself destroying and throwing away trump votes is going viral on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Kyudo_hankyu/status/1325869509140344837

https://archive.vn/YJYmf

https://streamable.com/qbzvpi

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I'm going to point this out once again:

I don't give a single fuck if this is fake or not. I am talking about both sides here: Leftards and Conservitards just so you don't mistake this message for some kind of simping for Trump.

If you are really about fair and honest. If you really feel Biden won fair and square. What. Is. The. Problem. With. Investigating?? Wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't you want to know if it turned out that EITHER party deceived you as a citizen and a taxpayer? Wouldn't you want to know if it turned out that EITHER party was willing to stoop so low and lie because it suits them and NOT YOU?
And shouldn't we all be sending a clear and concise message to main stream media that YES, the PEOPLE decide the election. Not the media. Not CNN. Not Fredo. Not Twatter or facebook. Because (for those in the back not listening) it benefits ALL OF US.

Now onto what I was really going to repeat: If your side is SO PURE, SO RIGHT side of history. Why would you EVER put forth the PREMISE that election fraud is blatantly taking place? Are people so goddamn fucking stupid (stupider than George Carlin stupid) that they think their hubris goes unnoticed.
If ever there was a time for EVERYBODY to shut the fuck up and find common ground...it is with shit like this.

Stop playing the RNC and DNC's faggot ass games. We all are being fucking played. Grow up. Come together and refuse to play by holding them all accountable.

God...this is literally like some guy going on Tik Tok and screaming niggerniggerniggernigger! and then getting assmad because he lost his job and it was a joke, brah! in the year of our Lord current.

 

[VooDew]

I'm going to point this out once again:

I don't give a single fuck if this is fake or not. I am talking about both sides here: Leftards and Conservitards just so you don't mistake this message for some kind of simping for Trump.

If you are really about fair and honest. If you really feel Biden won fair and square. What. Is. The. Problem. With. Investigating?? Wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't you want to know if it turned out that EITHER party deceived you as a citizen and a taxpayer? Wouldn't you want to know if it turned out that EITHER party was willing to stoop so low and lie because it suits them and NOT YOU?
And shouldn't we all be sending a clear and concise message to main stream media that YES, the PEOPLE decide the election. Not the media. Not CNN. Not Fredo. Not Twatter or facebook. Because (for those in the back not listening) it benefits ALL OF US.

Now onto what I was really going to repeat: If your side is SO PURE, SO RIGHT side of history. Why would you EVER put forth the PREMISE that election fraud is blatantly taking place? Are people so goddamn fucking stupid (stupider than George Carlin stupid) that they think their hubris goes unnoticed.
If ever there was a time for EVERYBODY to shut the fuck up and find common ground...it is with shit like this.

Stop playing the RNC and DNC's faggot ass games. We all are being fucking played. Grow up. Come together and refuse to play by holding them all accountable.

God...this is literally like some guy going on Tik Tok and screaming niggerniggerniggernigger! and then getting assmad because he lost his job and it was a joke, brah! in the year of our Lord current.

Because they are afraid of any kind of potential loss here. The left is already celebrating a Biden win and wont take no for an answer. Four years of Trump was hell for these people, so they refuse to allow another 4. They want to discredit any claim of election fraud to make them look smart and smug.

Which also confuses me as well, considering the left cried about Russia meddling in our election for five years now, yet suddenly we are above election fraud? That our elections are secure and tampering is rare?

For me, all I need to see to prove something fishy was happening was the sudden upward spike the night after November 3rd. Its statistically impossible for them to suddenly gain and count thousands of votes for small counties and not a single vote goes to Trump or the third party candidate. That and this video of people gathering outside in large masses of crowds to celebrate a win they gained by pushing mail in voting in order to keep people "safe" from covid. Just remember, these people will go out with no masks on (I have been to several rallies and many people wear their masks incorrectly, or not at all, stand in very close contact for hours on end and then loot your city) while someones grandmother passes on without being able to see their loved ones.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

2) It says that absentee ballots go through the postal system so you expect them to be shuffled like a deck of cards... but absentee votes are reported county-by-county, as you can see here. Some counties are more heavily Dem than others. If you're getting batches of absentee vote counts reporting from a single county at a time, you're going to see jumps in the D/R ratio vs. when they're averaged all together. And generally, the more populous regions (the ones with big cities) report later. And cities lean heavily Dem vs. rural. That's true even in Texas, which Trump won.

True, but there's a bit more to it than that. Not all absentee ballots go through the postal system. Most places have provisions for either turning them in at the elections office, or dropping them off at a drop box. For example Pennsylvania said that: "Pennsylvania voters have options on how to return their mail ballot: by mail, at a drop box, at their county board of election office, or other officially designated location." with the deadline being 8pm on Election day.

So everything that was dropped off at an election office or a drop box isn't going to be shuffled in the mail, it's going to be reflective of the surrounding area. Which if the 2012 elections are an indication, can easily lead to situations where the batch of absentee ballots from a drop box or election office are 100% or close to it for the democrats,

That's before you consider that Biden and the democrats did a lot of encourage their supporters to use mail in ballots, while Trump spent months shit talking mail in ballots to his supporters. Which can reasonably be expected to result in absentee ballots to be much more heavily democrat leaning than republican leaning. Given a lot of states count absentee ballots last, the late spikes for the democrats as absentee ballots are counted are to be expected.

I mean yes but it is just I have seen more than enough evidence...it surprises me they went with a blind womem etc. That just seems real dumb.

I would suspect that most of the evidence you've seen is closer to being straws than being solid evidence. Courts need more evidence of wrong doing than people looking at preliminary results that are still being counted and checked for errors, and declaring there to be fraud because tens of thousands of people voted for a presidential candidates but not that party's congressional candidate, or because counting absentee ballots results in batches of ballots almost purely for one candidate. Not without some serious corroborating evidence that shows plausible explanations don't explain it, or that a significant number of the ballots are forgeries. Similarly anecdotal allegations of fraud need both explanations of why existing poll watchers weren't noticing it, need first hand witnessing or experience of it, and preferable some recorded documentation of it. A few people claiming it happened, then hemming and hawing when you try and pin them down on the details or an admission that they'd only heard about it or were guessing it happened because they found something suspicious isn't going to get the court's ears. Voter rolls irregularities are bad, but you need more evidence than them existing to prove fraud. You need to prove they aren't clerical errors, as well as prove that questionable ballots aren't getting filtered out. And so on and so forth.

The bottom line is that if Trump's legal teams had solid evidence, they'd be using it. They are presumably not dumb people and can find the same easily found allegations on social media that you can. If they aren't using it, it likely means that they've looked into it, and it's not as solid as you think it is.

There's theory he could use courts to stall and run out the clock until the House has to vote and its 1 vote per state or something.

Seems unlikely. I'm no legal scholar, but I would suspect attempting to stall in court wouldn't work. The laws where it goes to the house are for if the electoral college can't decide, not for if it's prevented from voting by disputed elections. So if Trump can't prove something in court quickly and is just trying to stall, I'd bet on the courts allowing the official counts to stand so the electoral college can proceed. Plus I think Trump would need to succeed in stalling in enough states to bring Biden's electoral vote count below 270, otherwise they can likely just proceed without the disputed states.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I am saying surely there was better evidence than a blind person. That just sounds like it is going to fail just inherently.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I'm noticing more interesting discussion of previous instances of vote fraud stealing elections in blogs and elsewhere on the internet, even if the more "balanced" articles from the MSM are just history-themed informative pieces about other close/disputed elections. I totally forgot about Grover Cleveland vs Benjamin Harrison in 1888, where one key state Harrison won, Indiana, used a voting system prone to fraud called "Blocks of Five" while in New York (which Harrison also won, I guess because Tammany Hall decided the devil they knew Cleveland wasn't worth it as President) there was also noted to be fraud. So that means Cleveland was elected by fraud and removed from office by fraud. Speaking of Cleveland, 1884 also involved strangely close vote counts in Indiana.

If anything comes from this, I hope people to realize that even in a modern democracy we have and always have had people out there committing fraud on the highest levels and getting away with it, reshaping our political landscape in the process. It didn't stop because all the famous big city machines got broken up/declined in power in the Cold War (and many didn't, they just moved into the shadows and revamped themselves which is why Mayor Daley's son Richard Jr. spent 22 years as Chicago mayor for instance). We probably would've had more electoral fraud in the past few decades if there weren't so many shit candidates like Goldwater, McGovern, or Mondale or weird elections like 1992 with Perot. The question should be how we can stop this, and one initial solution might be to ask why anyone in their right mind would let companies with names like "Dominion" or "Shadow" have such influence in our voting. That sort of shit is just the modern incarnation of voting fraud of previous eras, just like how a robber who wants a quick million dollars now won't hold up a bank but hack someone's account and divert the money using bitcoins.

Things are so stacked against Trump that if anyone is caught committing perjury on his side it is over for him. He must know that. In short, I am predisposed to believing it.

He could just disavow some idiot filing a false affidavit, and unlike most false affidavits the idiot will actually be sentenced for perjury in today's political climate.

Gore sued over some serious bullshit. This election, on the other hand, has so much irregularities that if it happened in any country other then the US people would be crying foul immediately. Something has to give.

Gore without a doubt was the winner. In any other country, if it comes down to 539 votes in a state where the rival candidate (son of a former president, part of a powerful political dynasty)'s brother is governor, it would be deemed obviously fraudulent.

I think part of the shitshow is that you've got GOP at all levels trying it on. The Trump campaign probably has core cases they're bringing, plus a few unlikely gambits, but by doing so and making a scene Republicans at state and local levels will be emboldened to bring their own cases for specific races. Those cases won't necessarily be well-founded and motives for bringing them will differ (eg local political rivalries, long-held grudges, desire for notoriety or career advancement). Even as pres you can't make your party's retards shut the fuck up and let you work.

Weren't there a bunch of suspicious ballots with the only vote being "Biden/Harris" and no one else? Which although I can see at least a few people not caring about other elections other than "fuck Trump", statistically this should only be a tiny fraction and your average "fuck Trump" voter would fill out straight Democrat ticket or maybe go Biden and then third parties.

Still, it's good they do this because unchallenged success means the DNC is going to do this during midterm elections in 2022 to take back the Senate.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

@Save the Loli
Not what i meant. Sorry, I will be clearer. If any of the people are proven to have actually lied, not just not fully remembering stuff or whatever, but actually lied this is over.

 

[Nobue]

where do i send it cuz i got banned on 4chan till next month

Restart your modem.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

@Save the Loli
Not what i meant. Sorry, I will be clearer. If any of the people are proven to have actually lied, not just not fully remembering stuff or whatever, but actually lied this is over.

Not in the court system. One idiot committing perjury doesn't mean all of them did, and the courts interpret things on a case by case basis. At this point it's totally up to the courts since the MSM has already declared Joepedo the winner.

Now if I'm putting my tinfoil hat on, it is possible that the Biden campaign/DNC would have people file false affidavits on behalf of Trump and receive a perjury conviction (or not, plenty of people do that shit without being convicted of perjury) to make the courts subconsciously (since in the end, judges are human) distrust legit affidavits and testimony.

 

[RedStorm]

True, but there's a bit more to it than that. Not all absentee ballots go through the postal system. Most places have provisions for either turning them in at the elections office, or dropping them off at a drop box. For example Pennsylvania said that: "Pennsylvania voters have options on how to return their mail ballot: by mail, at a drop box, at their county board of election office, or other officially designated location." with the deadline being 8pm on Election day.

So everything that was dropped off at an election office or a drop box isn't going to be shuffled in the mail, it's going to be reflective of the surrounding area. Which if the 2012 elections are an indication, can easily lead to situations where the batch of absentee ballots from a drop box or election office are 100% or close to it for the democrats,

That's before you consider that Biden and the democrats did a lot of encourage their supporters to use mail in ballots, while Trump spent months shit talking mail in ballots to his supporters. Which can reasonably be expected to result in absentee ballots to be much more heavily democrat leaning than republican leaning. Given a lot of states count absentee ballots last, the late spikes for the democrats as absentee ballots are counted are to be expected.

I would suspect that most of the evidence you've seen is closer to being straws than being solid evidence. Courts need more evidence of wrong doing than people looking at preliminary results that are still being counted and checked for errors, and declaring there to be fraud because tens of thousands of people voted for a presidential candidates but not that party's congressional candidate, or because counting absentee ballots results in batches of ballots almost purely for one candidate. Not without some serious corroborating evidence that shows plausible explanations don't explain it, or that a significant number of the ballots are forgeries. Similarly anecdotal allegations of fraud need both explanations of why existing poll watchers weren't noticing it, need first hand witnessing or experience of it, and preferable some recorded documentation of it. A few people claiming it happened, then hemming and hawing when you try and pin them down on the details or an admission that they'd only heard about it or were guessing it happened because they found something suspicious isn't going to get the court's ears. Voter rolls irregularities are bad, but you need more evidence than them existing to prove fraud. You need to prove they aren't clerical errors, as well as prove that questionable ballots aren't getting filtered out. And so on and so forth.

The bottom line is that if Trump's legal teams had solid evidence, they'd be using it. They are presumably not dumb people and can find the same easily found allegations on social media that you can. If they aren't using it, it likely means that they've looked into it, and it's not as solid as you think it is.


Seems unlikely. I'm no legal scholar, but I would suspect attempting to stall in court wouldn't work. The laws where it goes to the house are for if the electoral college can't decide, not for if it's prevented from voting by disputed elections. So if Trump can't prove something in court quickly and is just trying to stall, I'd bet on the courts allowing the official counts to stand so the electoral college can proceed. Plus I think Trump would need to succeed in stalling in enough states to bring Biden's electoral vote count below 270, otherwise they can likely just proceed without the disputed states.

The argument never was that mail in votes wouldn't skew Biden, you shill, but that implausible 100% 138k batches for Biden and literally no one else is suspicious, that unrealistically high turnout in certain cities with no clear oversight is suspicious, that poll watchers were denied their duty to observe is suspicious, that glitches ended up switching Trump votes to Biden votes is suspicious, that counting was done in the middle of the night when they claimed they stopped counting is suspicious, the list goes on

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Styx bitchuted about the voter fraud in Michigan where the Michigan AG tries to bully a journalist and nicknamed it "Detroitgate".

Michigan AG Tries to Bully Journalist Over Detroitgate Leaks (Bitchute Exclusive)

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www.bitchute.com

"Detroitgate", It could become a cool nickname besides "Detoilet" and "Detriot".

 

[RedStorm]

Moreover, in Milwaukee, 69.4% went to Biden and 29.4% went to Trump with 1.2% going third-party/write-in. It is statistically impossible for absolutely 0 of 138k mail-in votes to go to Trump or third-party/write-in. Finding precincts where literally 100% go to one candidate is rare (you may find it every now and then in precincts that are entirely african american, but those only are in groups of ~200, not >100,000). Having a batch of over 100,000 mail-in ballots that go for only one candidate is incredibly shady.