2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Irritable Bowel Syndrome]

I've seen this said several times in this thread and in a few different ways, and I don't really understand it. PA is the strongest legal case they have, to the point where I'm sort of just waiting for it to happen, rather than talking about percentages and chances. I don't know how they'll rule but given that PA directly ignored an order, and kept counting without oversight, and along with numerous other witness testaments to attempts to defraud the process, I just don't see how SCOTUS rules in a way that doesn't end up flipping PA to Trump or completely invalidating for both candidates. It seems like nothing short of an open goal.

So if you're saying that Trump's win hinges on PA, as so many agree, it's baffling to me that anyone can also say that a Biden win is still likely. I'll grant that a Trump win isn't certain, but the situation in PA, as well as WI largely, has made the situation for both candidates extremely tenuous, and right now I like Trumps chances a lot more than Biden's.

It also hinges on whether or not SCOTUS actually bothers to do their job for once.

 

[SmokeyMcRunFast]

This is a black suppository. They're trying to subvert a major world power and you're the crazy lunatic for noticing it.
Imagine had they had an actual brain, some finesse and we would have never found out.

As someone I know from the Congo has said. These people are rank amateurs when it comes to election stealing.

 

[Smarty Pants]

Current Veritas story is that he signed a paper without reading it after four hours of Fed interrogation and has said afterwards he stands by his statement.

Why the hell would he ever talk to the Feds in the first place?

 

[Gehenna]

If SCOTUS rules in favor of Trump to either a strong or moderate degree, a lot of people jump their chances up from "
Unlikely" to "Holy shit its happening".

If they rule in his favor, but weakly. Shits gonna stay tense as fuck.

If they rule against him, GG goodbye.

Why the hell would he ever talk to the Feds in the first place?

Because the kind of person to leak this is also the kind of person to naively trust that the system will fix it.

 

[Reisen Storm]

Why the hell would he ever talk to the Feds in the first place?

The Feds came to talk to him first. My mistake got it wrong, I think.

 

[iRON-mAn]

It also hinges on whether or not SCOTUS actually bothers to do their job for once.

Because SCOTUS itself is not a gaurantee.

Too much fuckery is possible there and the conservative view is to be skeptical of it.

Doesn't that argument hinge on Barrett recusing herself though? And someone already pointed out in this thread, if Barrett has to recuse herself, so would half of the judges on the court.

So it basically seems like dooming based on Barrett being untested in this role, but nothing from her confirmation hearing has given me any reason to believe she would actually sit this one out.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Because SCOTUS itself is not a gaurantee.

Too much fuckery is possible there and the conservative view is to be skeptical of it.

That's why I think PA's fuckery should go there first, that one is an issue strictly of constitutionality and has poll workers blatantly telling a Supreme Court Justice to take his order and shove it up his ass. The other stuff like backdating, among others, could then be taken up via other means if necessary.

Doesn't that argument hinge on Barrett recusing herself though? And someone already pointed out in this thread, if Barrett has to recuse herself, so would half of the judges on the court.

So it basically seems like dooming based on Barrett being untested in this role, but nothing from her confirmation hearing has given me any reason to believe she would actually sit this one out.

The left has their own copium too, and that comes in the form of Barrett recusing herself. The only reason she did so the first go around was because the case was already underway, and she was on her first day on the job. She needed time to catch up on what was going on.

 

[GuntPunt]

PA continues to go full retard.

Not the best idea now that you are under a microscope. Its like they are trying to get sued to oblivion.

 

[captkrisma]

Why the hell would he ever talk to the Feds in the first place?

If he works for the USPS, he's a federal employee as well. One of those "you can trust us, we work for the same guy" bullshit.

 

[Reisen Storm]

It's for anywhere in the country. He mentioned he backs Trump's efforts.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-patrick-texas-lt-governor-1-million-reward-voter-fraud-evidence/

Send this? Shit is shady as fuck.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

The left has their own copium too, and that comes in the form of Barrett recusing herself. The only reason she did so the first go around was because the case was already underway, and she was on her first day on the job. She needed time to catch up on what was going on.

Why are people saying she will recuse herself again for this upcoming court case then? It's not underway and she's been a part of SCOTUS since before it's due to begin.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Send this? Shit is shady as fuck.

Send all the info you got. An avalanche of evidence is hard to ignore.

Why are people saying she will recuse herself again for this upcoming court case then? It's not underway and she's been a part of SCOTUS since before it's due to begin.

She won't. The copium and doomerism reaches across the aisle.

 

[Smarty Pants]

He still stands by his allegations. He was coerced or something.

Well Trump appears to have just agreed with you:

They're doubling down on the USPS driver's original claim and I don't know whether that's a good strategy.

 

[Random Internet Person]

2. Never underestimate your enemy. But also never overestimate them

I've heard this same thing said when it comes to Democrats.

A 6/3 Republican leaning SCOTUS and we're seriously worried about the outcome of Pennsylvania, everyone chill down with the doomery

You always have to prepare for things going tits up. Especially when the Democrats just need one win while Trump needs several, and thewn there's the run out the clock part.

PA continues to go full retard.
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Not the best idea now that you are under a microscope. Its like they are trying to get sued to oblivion.

That or they know they're going to get away with it. And they're taunting us about another thing they did and sending mail like The Zodiac Killer while we scratch our heads. Why else would they be this open about their actions when they know they're being investigated?

 

[InsolentGaylord]

That or they know they're going to get away with it. And they're taunting us about another thing they did and sending mail like The Zodiac Killer while we scratch our heads. Why else would they be this open about their actions when they know they're being investigated?

It's possible they are just going through the motions also at this point.

 

[Gehenna]

Doesn't that argument hinge on Barrett recusing herself though? And someone already pointed out in this thread, if Barrett has to recuse herself, so would half of the judges on the court.

So it basically seems like dooming based on Barrett being untested in this role, but nothing from her confirmation hearing has given me any reason to believe she would actually sit this one out.

Realistic issues with each of the six conservative justices:

Roberts: He's a liberal in disguise, he'll vote against.

So the other five:
Barrett: There is a legal case for her to recuse, its not strong but this would also be her first decision on the supreme court. There will be a -lot- of pressure on her to recuse, and I am not discounting the chance they'll go after her kids.

Gorsuch: After Roberts, the second most common to break from the conservatives. He's a massive proponent of Natural law, and his breaks always follow it, so he should be absolutely livid here. BUT he is not a guarantee, more of an 80%.

Kavanaugh & Alito: These two share a spot because both have skin in the game, unlikely to break but Kavanaugh is still untested and Alito's judicial philosophy could conflict on the fringes.

Thomas: Lol no, he's not breaking. Leaving aside the chance for revenge, he is staunchly conservative and his judicial philosophy would hate this.



Summary, the two justices to look at are Gorsuch and Barrett, with both Kavanaugh and Alito having some minor chance of breaking off. Minor though is not non-existent.

 

[There'll be another time]

Isn't the general doomerism over SCOTUS due to people believing that the court won't want to rule in favour to avoid be seen as a political apparatus (which personally I think is lol, hasn't it been for like 40 years, but I digress)

Given how the conservative judges are constitutionaliats triggering a constitutional crisis may not be high on their priority list.

But.

Pennsylvania's seeming direct violation of law and of a supreme court justice is something that they shouldn't allow to just slide. Undermining the authority of SCOTUS might be enough for them to rule for the legislature to decide where the electoral votes go.
Iirc the GOP controls the Pennsylvania legislature, so handing it off to them is a nice way for SCOTUS to rule on it and wash their hands of it while trying to maintain impartiality on their half

 

[Rykel22]

Well Trump appears to have just agreed with you:
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They're doubling down on the USPS driver's original claim and I don't know whether that's a good strategy.

It does say something that they tried to silence him

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

You always have to prepare for things going tits up. Especially when the Democrats just need one win while Trump needs several, and thewn there's the run out the clock part.

When it comes to running the clock, Dems might not want that, Florida threatened to say fuck it and appoint their own electors if the issue in 2000 was not resolved on time, and all but one of the states here have majority Republican legislatures.

 

[Kane Lives]

Isn't the general doomerism over SCOTUS due to people believing that the court won't want to rule in favour to avoid be seen as a political apparatus (which personally I think is lol, hasn't it been for like 40 years, but I digress)

Given how the conservative judges are constitutionaliats triggering a constitutional crisis may not be high on their priority list.

But.

Pennsylvania's seeming direct violation of law and of a supreme court justice is something that they shouldn't allow to just slide. Undermining the authority of SCOTUS might be enough for them to rule for the legislature to decide where the electoral votes go.
Iirc the GOP controls the Pennsylvania legislature, so handing it off to them is a nice way for SCOTUS to rule on it and wash their hands of it while trying to maintain impartiality on their half

There's already precedent in the SCOTUS ruling and then washing their hands of it for the state legistature to pick the electoral slate in Bush vs Gore so.