Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
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MochiCake said:
Why don't you guys stop crying and do something productive with your lives?

Work out, cook, bake, play a game, read a book, go to the cinema, talk to friends etc.

Look for a JOB, look for an EDUCATION? Those are very good assets to make your live better.

Accept the democratic decision of the majority of the United States, move on with your life and stop being into this creepy, nasty and smelly place.

Down with KiwiFarms, Furryphobia, Racism, Prejudice!!! It's over.
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Being a productive member of society is gay, I’d rather laugh at ’tards.
 
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MochiCake said:
Why don't you guys stop crying and do something productive with your lives?

Work out, cook, bake, play a game, read a book, go to the cinema, talk to friends etc.

Look for a JOB, look for an EDUCATION? Those are very good assets to make your live better.

Accept the democratic decision of the majority of the United States, move on with your life and stop being into this creepy, nasty and smelly place.

Down with KiwiFarms, Furryphobia, Racism, Prejudice!!! It's over.
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Were I the same man I was a few years ago, I would've given (You) a rant, but I won't. A silly sticker will have to do. Is that ok?
 
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TherapyMan said:
From my perspective, Hopkins comes across as someone who thinks he might have overheard some illicit activity, but isn't particularly sure of what he heard. I would assume that Veritas talked to him into making a more detailed statement than what he actually witnessed, but I don't think Hopkins went into this with bad intentions.
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Talking out your ass. He didn't embellish anything, by Veritas's insistence or not. That's just what the agents were trying to convince him he did, and either you've got a peanut brain and fell for it or you've got a dog in this race against his account/witness to push that idea.
These nobody agents were gunning for him in the same way they usually do with interrogation but dirty. They had him sign a conclusion before anything really started, then got into slowly sneaking in doubt for him to question himself while pressing the magnitude of the situation to make him anxious enough to believe it, that he may not have told the whole truth, namely by embellishment.

"I am trying to twist you a little bit" is not something professionals say during a proper interrogation, though.
"I am not scaring you, but I am scaring you" is also totally moronic for an interrogator to say.
Hence why the "coercion" claim, properly applied or not, and why I say you're talking out your ass trying to pretend this was just a typical interrogation.
There was no union rep present, either, and no real mention of a lawyer--though the latter is Hopkins' fault for not realizing that, whether it's officially Feds or not, never ever agree to a "sit down" without a lawyer. Also don't sign anything. He got the recording but come on, it's basic.

Now was it "coercion"? Depends on what "coercion" would be defined as in legal speak, not the dictionary, like "assault" and "battery" and "disorderly" (ie "assault" can be a shove or a threatening remark whereas "battery" can be a punch or a total beat down, and "disorderly conduct" can be drunken violence or simply not sitting on the sidewalk fast enough by the cop's estimation, the differences between Murder and Manslaughter with the varied degrees between them (Murder 1, 2, 3, Manslaughter 2, etc.) Legal speak is a whole other language made to be rigid yet malliable).

They were very sneaky and calculated in their manipulation not only of Hopkins but his words because they had an agenda and it was not to discern the truth. Again, anyone would realize this 20min into the 2hr audio unless they have peanut brains.
It's all tactics, like most interrogation that's not constricted by lawyers, but it's dirty with ts that "Promise me you won't talk to anybody" and "I'm trying to twist you". Whether or not this was illegal I don't know. Doesn't seem like it, but that "twist" remark would be enough to ruin the whole thing in other circumstances. You can't just say that as an interrogator and not get railed in court by a lawyer. I don't know anything about USPS agent interrogations, though. Honestly I'd have just left once I knew--before following anyone anywhere--that they weren't FBI.

Main takeaway, though, is that there was NO RETRACTION. Hopkins did not retract or recant his testimony, unlike what the mainstream media is pressing. He was talked into making whatever amendments they could wring from the stone, but that's not retraction. At best the media can lie and say he didn't have his story straight, but to continually claim retraction is wholly unfounded.
 
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JaneThough said:
I found it on Trump's harddrive.
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In fact, if I'm not mistaken, didn't he once suggest during a radio show that Epstein liked his girls younger and he wasn't into that?
So there. Trump isn't a pedo...
he's just a pedo's friend

ConSlut#5000 said:
The main stream media seem very desperate for people so assured this is "over". "When are you going to concede?!"

Maybe when the lawsuits are completed for better/worse?
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Like a bettering ram, like the mass joint effort it obviously is, they unify to keep beating against you until you break and they won't stop until you do.
They did it in 2014 (Gamers are Dead). They did it in 2016 (Pedophilia? pshaw!). They're doing the same thing again.
Kinda funny since they also did this not too long ago on a smaller scale with Netflix's Cuties
 
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EyelessMC said:
In fact, if I'm not mistaken, didn't he once suggest during a radio show that Epstein liked his girls younger and he wasn't into that?
So there. Trump isn't a pedo...
he's just a pedo's friend
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Someone's going have to confirm that.
 
EyelessMC said:
Talking out your ass. He didn't embellish anything, by Veritas's insistence or not. That's just what the agents were trying to convince him he did, and either you've got a peanut brain and fell for it or you've got a dog in this race against his account/witness to push that idea.
These nobody agents were gunning for him in the same way they usually do with interrogation but dirty. They had him sign a conclusion before anything really started, then got into slowly sneaking in doubt for him to question himself while pressing the magnitude of the situation to make him anxious enough to believe it, that he may not have told the whole truth, namely by embellishment.

"I am trying to twist you a little bit" is not something professionals say during a proper interrogation, though.
"I am not scaring you, but I am scaring you" is also totally moronic for an interrogator to say.
Hence why the "coercion" claim, properly applied or not, and why I say you're talking out your ass trying to pretend this was just a typical interrogation.
There was no union rep present, either, and no real mention of a lawyer--though the latter is Hopkins' fault for not realizing that, whether it's officially Feds or not, never ever agree to a "sit down" without a lawyer. Also don't sign anything. He got the recording but come on, it's basic.

Now was it "coercion"? Depends on what "coercion" would be defined as in legal speak, not the dictionary, like "assault" and "battery" and "disorderly" (ie "assault" can be a shove or a threatening remark whereas "battery" can be a punch or a total beat down, and "disorderly conduct" can be drunken violence or simply not sitting on the sidewalk fast enough by the cop's estimation, the differences between Murder and Manslaughter with the varied degrees between them (Murder 1, 2, 3, Manslaughter 2, etc.) Legal speak is a whole other language made to be rigid yet malliable).

They were very sneaky and calculated in their manipulation not only of Hopkins but his words because they had an agenda and it was not to discern the truth. Again, anyone would realize this 20min into the 2hr audio unless they have peanut brains.
It's all tactics, like most interrogation that's not constricted by lawyers, but it's dirty with ts that "Promise me you won't talk to anybody" and "I'm trying to twist you". Whether or not this was illegal I don't know. Doesn't seem like it, but that "twist" remark would be enough to ruin the whole thing in other circumstances. You can't just say that as an interrogator and not get railed in court by a lawyer. I don't know anything about USPS agent interrogations, though. Honestly I'd have just left once I knew--before following anyone anywhere--that they weren't FBI.

Main takeaway, though, is that there was NO RETRACTION. Hopkins did not retract or recant his testimony, unlike what the mainstream media is pressing. He was talked into making whatever amendments they could wring from the stone, but that's not retraction. At best the media can lie and say he didn't have his story straight, but to continually claim retraction is wholly unfounded.
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O'Keefe just outed the agent's twitter account and he's a full on TDS #resist type. A couple of interesting tweets:

Archive / twitter

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Stacy Abrams, yall.
 
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BULLY HUNTER_77 said:
It's how you know they aren't very confident that Trump won't gain traction with his cases. If they were really confident, they'd just be shitting on Trump for throwing a temper tantrum.
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This entire thing reminded me of our own election, the results were given at 2 pm and before anyone could ask or do a counting, exactly at 8 pm the president was sworn without anyone having time to react
 
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Federal Election Commission Chairman Drops Bombshell: 'This Election …

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Federal Election Commission Chairman Drops Bombshell: ‘This Election Is Illegitimate’​

The Chairman of the Federal Election Commission went on record with a bombshell announcement, stating that from what he’s seen in Pennsylvania, and reports he’s been getting from elsewhere in the country, this election is illegitimate.


It really is explosive news. The top boss of all the election officials, Trey Trainor, has confirmed that in his professional opinion, “there has not been transparency in the election” and “this election is illegitimate.“

He dropped the bombshell on the liberal news media at Newsmax when he made the announcement that he believes “that there is voter fraud taking place in these places.”

There is no legitimate reason at all for observers to be denied access to the ballot counting. Ipso facto, the ballot counting must be “illegitimate.“ That announcement isn’t coming from just anyone. Trey Trainor isn’t just a state election official, he’s a federal one.

And on top of that, he’s the leader of the whole commission. Unlike the liberal media hacks who were in a hurry to call state races for the Democrats and the presidency for Biden, Trainor knows a thing or two about election integrity.


Speaking to Newsmax, Chairman Trainor said, “Despite winning a court order which allows the Trump campaign to send observers to watch ballot counting in Pennsylvania from six feet away ballot watchers ‘have not been allowed into the polling locations in a meaningful way.’”

Trainor points out that “when observers have been permitted to watch, the goalpost has been moved away.” Simply put, “there has not been transparency in the election.”

“Our whole political system is based upon transparency to avoid the appearance of corruption,” Trainor insists. “State law allows those observers to be in there. If the law isn’t being followed then this election is ‘illegitimate.‘”

The Trump campaign held a press conference on Saturday to make an big announcement of their own.

They declared they will go to war over this in the courts. As Rudy Giuliani said, the media don’t get to decide who won the election — judges do.

Chairman Trainor, an old school gunslinger from Texas appointed by Trump, is behind them all the way. What Team Trump is claiming are “very valid allegations,” he agrees, which need to be “fully vetted” by the court system. He predicts that the charges are serious enough to “end up in the Supreme Court.”
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