2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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After all this is over and either Trump or Biden goives their innaguration speech Im taking a 24 hour nap

Also the democratic party has more than earned a lolcow (maybe a griefing if youre feeling genrous) thread
Where would you even begin with a thread like that?
 
It is, in fact, the magic number. We base our elections on a MAJORITY not a PLURALITY.

Legally, if no one gets 270, it goes to congress.

Look up the 1824 election, it's happened.

Yup, if you don't get 270 there will be a contingent election. Which Trump will win

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_3:_Electors

The 12th Amendment introduced a number of important changes to the procedure. Now, electors do not cast two votes for president; rather, they cast one vote for president and another for vice president. In case no presidential candidate receives a majority, the House chooses from the top three (not five, as before the 12th Amendment). The Amendment also requires the Senate to choose the vice president from those with the two highest figures if no vice presidential candidate receives a majority of electoral votes (rather than only if there's a tie for second for president). It also stipulates that to be the vice president, a person must be qualified to be the president.

So if the recounts can't be completed on time and it is impossible to guarantee a fair election as decided by the Republican state legislature and enough state legislators decline to certify any electors to prevent either side from getting 270 votes, rather than doing what Florida did in 2000 and just sending Republicans, it's a contingent election and Trump stays in office. And if the Republicans keep the Senate they can decline to certify the electors and force a contingent election.

The more you read about this, the more you see why the media were so insistent Trump must concede and accept the rigged vote. Because the alternative has many, many ways for him to win. It's all going to be decided by votes in places where the Republicans have a majority.
 
I've been posting tepid "the results are disputed need to wait and see stuff before declaring a new prez" on my Fakebook alot and this one high school friend of mine loses his shit every time. Like a 3 paragraph thing about how everything's legit and I'm spreading misinformation.

I've very respectfully posted all the evidence I could find thats available and emphasizing the sworn affadavits (i.e lie and go to buttfuck prison).

He won't engage. I straight up asked him yesterday what it would take to convince him something is wrong and he can't answer.

I know that feel. They demand evidence, I provide, they flat out refuse to look at it saying their time is too precious and call me a conspiritard. Nothing I can tell will get some people to even consider what we are discussing here as even a joke. It offends them like you just punched their mother. And these are smart people I otherwise respect, but this is worse than a cult religion for them, to not call our system into question.
 
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PA and MI have sworn witnesses with affidavits about fuckery.
That right there is the telltale sign of fraud IMHO. Even without knowing what is in the affidavits, why would a poll worker, especially one in a deep Blue urban area, risk falling on their sword for the Orange One by committing perjury? They have to be telling the truth.
 
Shit's getting real...
These are parts of an e-mail sent from the Biden-Harris campaign to their newsletter subscribers.
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>"Our victory in this election was decisive"
>Our opponents have resorted to frivolous lawsuits
If the lawsuits are so frivolous, then why do you need so much money to fight them? The truth should be a necessary and sufficient defense, no?
 

looks like rich's twitter account is back up. I guess enough people made a stink about it that it got brought back. My guess is that someone high-up is going to claim that 'he was just a victim of a cloudflare anomaly' and sweep the whole issue under the rug.
 
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PANIC!
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>"Our victory in this election was decisive"
>Our opponents have resorted to frivolous lawsuits
If the lawsuits are so frivolous, then why do you need so much money to fight them? The truth should be a necessary and sufficient defense, no?
This reads like "BUY WAR-BONDS!" for their lawfare effort.
 
PANIC!
These are parts of an e-mail sent from the Biden-Harris campaign to their newsletter subscribers.
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>"Our victory in this election was decisive"
>Our opponents have resorted to frivolous lawsuits
If the lawsuits are so frivolous, then why do you need so much money to fight them? The truth should be a necessary and sufficient defense, no?
I'm not good on this lawyer stuff, but what can the Biden campaign do? Aren't they not one of the parties in these lawsuits?
 
PANIC!
These are parts of an e-mail sent from the Biden-Harris campaign to their newsletter subscribers.
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>"Our victory in this election was decisive"
>Our opponents have resorted to frivolous lawsuits
If the lawsuits are so frivolous, then why do you need so much money to fight them? The truth should be a necessary and sufficient defense, no?
Isn't this that thing that Bidenfags claim doesn't happen to them and that 'only trump grift mails exist'?
How embarrassing to be a democrat in the latter part of 2020.
 
We went over this, Kavanaugh ruled that only the NC legislature can decide how votes are counted, that's why they could count late.
I think there's a fair bit of people that aren't getting that this is far bigger than Trump winning. If Biden won legitimately, then the only thing to do would be to watch Trumpist populism disintegrate within the GOP and for the nightmare scenarios involving the Democrat party to manifest, if they ever would.

If it's found that it's more likely than not that there was substantial voter fraud or otherwise substantial mishandling of the election as to throw an entire state's results into disrepute, then it's for the better that such rot is exposed right away so that it can be excised and the wound tended to.

If such evidence manifests and is collated into a meaningful narrative, but we carry on with the results such misdeeds precipitated, then at least half the nation will legitimately come to the conclusion that voting doesn't matter because the voting system is ultimately a pretense. In effect, the president is more a king that was coronated than an official that was elected.

You can't civilly overthrow a king.

Even before that, you have to consider the magnitude of the egg that will be on our face on the world stage, as we invasively set up democratic systems in other nations for the supposed purpose of "spreading the joy of democracy".

Related to the idea that this is more important than Trump, is that it's more important that the judges do their job. That means that they operate from the narratives, evidence, and arguments that are actually presented to them. If Trump's lawyers knock it out of the park and they make a case beyond preponderance of the evidence and into beyond reasonable doubt, I want to see an apt verdict. If they were actually spinning a massive grift and their arguments are trash or their cases are otherwise substantially malformed, the judges need to make an appropriate verdict. Even the specific philosophies (e.g. constitutionalism, natural law) of the judges are more important than their general political alignment.
 
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