2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I might be an outlier but I think felons should be able to regain their voting and 2a rights.

That they don't is an admission that the justice system isn't working. Either they've paid their debt, been reformed and released in which case they should be able to vote and own a gun, or they haven't and they shouldn't be released in the first place.
I agree in principle. But in practice, by the time someone gets a felony conviction, they already have a long rap sheet. No one becomes a felon by accident, they work long and hard at it for years, and resist every attempt by the state to reform them. And good behavior in prison doesn't demonstrate rehabilitation--the true test of rehabilitation isn't what you did in prison, it's what you do in the years after you get out. So I guess I'm in favor of a pathway back to civil rights, but it shouldn't be automatic.
 
So, how many ballots were discounted with the PA court decision?

Depends on wether or not they destroyed the enveloppes and mixed them in. If the myth is false I think Trump wins but would have to look back to that part of the thread to know for sure. If the myth is true Trump definitely wins because they just invalidated EVERYTHING and sent it to legislature apointees.
 

I was given these videos as resources to follow the current situation with the court cases.

These were absolutely worthless. Propaganda, on tier with what some may assume Fox News to be. Before I was told these were sent to me, I asked what cases were being dismissed when it was said that Trump was batting 0-16-- I was told that it didn't matter because "all" his cases were dismissed. I asked multiple times how a two 3-6 minute videos would be enough to elucidate the court situation-- I was reassured that they would.

It was in total 9-10 minutes of mostly smug gloating with a hint of the pretense of legal analysis. Nothing was discussed about the actual court cases. Nothing was discussed about the apparent legal strategies (and I know they didn't because one who follows these would understand that the goal of the Republicans at this point is to invalidate the election in at least PA). MSNBC's breakdown of Barr's memo entailed two or three sentences analyzed-- the rest was "TRUMP LOST TRUMP LOST BIDEN WON COPE COPE COPE COPE COPE".

I need to readjust myself, though. I was dreading watching these videos and was silently ranting as I did, even if it was about how empty they were.
 
I might be an outlier but I think felons should be able to regain their voting and 2a rights.

That they don't is an admission that the justice system isn't working. Either they've paid their debt, been reformed and released in which case they should be able to vote and own a gun, or they haven't and they shouldn't be released in the first place.
That's of course assuming that they are in fact rehabilitated. Lots of guys who come out turn out to be repeat offenders, and I'm pretty sure you've got some states that don't even give life sentences anymore. I'd be willing to at least meet you halfway and say that released felons who can demonstrate that they haven't committed any crimes for five years can get their right to vote back, and recidivists should be stripped entirely. This of course can be scaled relative to the offense (e.g. nonviolent felons get two years probation, paroled murderers never).
 
Obama was pretty much a commie though, he just was stymied by Republicans for most of his presidency. He still did a lot of damage though. He appointed a lot of leftist activist judges for one. He said America was "clinging to guns and God" too. He transformed America for the worse, and he would have made it much worse if the Republican/right opposition wasn't there. God awful president, and I deeply regret voting for him -- twice. My vote didn't really count though, because my state went red in 2008 and 2012.

Biden/Harris can do a lot of damage and push through a lot of things people don't actually want. They could get both houses in 2022 too, and maybe even now if they get the Georgia run-off.
I've read compelling evidence that McCain never completely shook the brainwashing he was subjected to in captivity. The Hanoi Songbird's eccentric behavior (tearfully embracing his former captors) suggests Stockholm syndrome, but who am I to analyze a dead man? Point is, he'd have been just as bad as Obama.
 

Black organizers say allegations of Detroit voter fraud carry racist sentiment​

Detroit-area activists who mobilized Black voters in the presidential election say it’s no coincidence that allegations of voter fraud are focused on majority-Black cities.
No coincidence? You don't say.

Far-right political commentator Nicholas Fuentes highlighted allegations of fraud at TCF Center during a rally at Michigan’s Capitol on Wednesday. Fuentes, who attended the 2017 Charlottesville, Virginia Unite the Right rally, marched with a few dozen supporters around the Capitol to protest the election being “stolen” from Trump.


“It’s the same story,” Fuentes said. “You’ve got red states and deeply corrupt blue cities, and what happens is we win Wisconsin, we win Michigan, we win Pennsylvania, win Arizona, and then they manufacture the vote in the corrupt blue city machines.”


Fuentes and his supporters later posed for pictures while standing on the Lansing Black Lives Matter mural.


“Spread out over the mural, we’re making a statement,” Fuentes said
Where are your optics now?

Ponsella Hardaway, executive director of MOSES, said she witnessed intimidation, but not from election officials. Hardaway said poll workers, many of whom were Black women, faced harassment from ballot challengers.


“I was afraid, given the behavior that I saw in that moment.,” Hadaway said. “People should not be afraid to actually do their job and I saw the workers who were down there were afraid. To work under those kinds of conditions, I give them much kudos and honor for the work that they did.”
As of Sept 2009 Ponsella Hardaway was Michigan state contact for Health Care for America Now
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Ponsella is formerly of ACORN. She's had explicit training on how to "handle" "right wing" "protesters". She's been a subversive activist shitbag for at least 15 years.

“Those counters in there were older black women by far, and they were being stood over by white men with masks down below their nose breathing over them from one and two feet away, and then arguing about social distancing restrictions.”
All these lies aren't making me feel that secure in the integrity of the count. "ebil white men over my shoulder when im on my break! be gone, wydevil!"
 

Black organizers say allegations of Detroit voter fraud carry racist sentiment​


No coincidence? You don't say.


Where are your optics now?




Ponsella is formerly of ACORN. She's had explicit training on how to "handle" "right wing" "protesters". She's been a subversive activist shitbag for at least 15 years.


All these lies aren't making me feel that secure in the integrity of the count. "ebil white men over my shoulder when im on my break! be gone, wydevil!"
Fine, let Candace Owens, John James and Tim Scott observe the recounts.
 
I've read compelling evidence that McCain never completely shook the brainwashing he was subjected to in captivity. The Hanoi Songbird's eccentric behavior (tearfully embracing his former captors) suggests Stockholm syndrome, but who am I to analyze a dead man? Point is, he'd have been just as bad as Obama.
Well, of course McCain would be grateful to his Hanoi captors.

Without them capturing him, he wouldn't have been able to spin some bullshit story about being a heroic POW and milk it for an entire political career.
 

Black organizers say allegations of Detroit voter fraud carry racist sentiment​


No coincidence? You don't say.


Where are your optics now?




Ponsella is formerly of ACORN. She's had explicit training on how to "handle" "right wing" "protesters". She's been a subversive activist shitbag for at least 15 years.


All these lies aren't making me feel that secure in the integrity of the count. "ebil white men over my shoulder when im on my break! be gone, wydevil!"
Why is this a racial issue? Fraud is a bad thing no matter what your race/ethnicity is.
 
Well, of course McCain would be grateful to his Hanoi captors.

Without them capturing him, he wouldn't have been able to spin some bullshit story about being a heroic POW and milk it for an entire political career.
I was hinting at his commie indoctrination. Have you read the interviews he gave in captivity?
 
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